Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Thom R LaCosta

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006, Kevin Rock wrote:

Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they made 
it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.


Some of us old, imfirm, QLF types might confuse that with W (g)

What corfuses a lot of folks is the ~


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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Try sending the e-mail address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. 

All of the characters on the keyboard have Morse equivalents defined by the
ITU to avoid confusion. 

I guess that's why we're confused.

The & may have originated in American Morse, but the ITU recognizes it as
the prosign 'ES'.

Ron AC7AC



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Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they 
made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.

Kevin.  KD5ONS

By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse.  It is truly a single 
character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse.
KJR

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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Grief Folks!   At (@) is simple di-dah dah :)   I wondered why they 
made it so complicated when the entire word is much shorter.


Kevin.  KD5ONS

By the way: the AND sign comes from American Morse.  It is truly a single 
character with one of those odd length spaces rife in American Morse.

   KJR


On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:13:33 -0800, Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand 
(&)

and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit.

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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
That was an EASY one for me, just check my call sign. It's
di-dah-dah-di-dah-dit! Or "AC" as a prosign (run together as one character).

Ron AC7AC

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)


Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.

Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

> Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand
> (&) and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit.
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RE: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Bob, N7XY wrote:

> Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief
> operator at 16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year  
> or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented.

Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at").


Uh, oh! I based my use of "CA" on this announcement from the ARRL last April
30:


==>NEW MORSE "@"; CHARACTER BECOMES OFFICIAL MAY 3

The International Morse code officially gains a new character on May 3.
That's when the now-familiar "@"; symbol joins the Morse lexicon as the
letters "AC" run together (.--.-.). Known as the "commercial at" or
"commat," the @ symbol never rose to the level of usage that demanded a
unique Morse character until it gained currency as a critical component of
e-mail addresses during the past decade or so.

Last December, the International Telecommunication Union
Radiocommunication Sector (ITU-R) Study Group 8 agreed on the wording of a
Draft New Recommendation ITU-R M.[MORSE] that specified the international
Morse code character set and transmission procedures and included the new
Morse code character.

The pending change has attracted some attention in the media, including
mentions on National Public Radio's All Things Considered and in The New
York Times.



Will the REAL Morse "@" please stand up? 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jan 11, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief  
operator at 16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year  
or so, is the new prosign for "@" that was invented.


Dah-di-dah-di-di-dah (CA, as in "commercial at").

73, Bob N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Fred Jensen
Ahh yes, I remember ES from a year as a costal marine relief operator at 
16.  What I have forgotten, and it's only been a year or so, is the new 
prosign for "@" that was invented.


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw


Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&)
and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. 

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[Elecraft] Anticipating Morse (WAS: More ECN errata)

2006-01-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Leigh wrote:
I still remember my father sending me M I S S I S S A U G A when I was 5 and
learning CW.

-

Learning not to anticipate letters is invaluable. It was critical for
accurately copying five letter groups of random letters, numbers and
punctuation marks (including things like $, (,), # etc) which we did for the
commercial radiotelegraph exam years ago. 

That helps avoid lots of mistakes and lost copy too when you're surprised
that what you thought the word was isn't . 

Trivia item: probably 90% of the Hams know the Morse for the ampersand (&)
and don't realize it. It's "ES" or dit, dit-dit-dit. 

Ron AC7AC

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