Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Graham g3tct

What frequency? What spacing between the peaks?
On VHF this effect can often be seen due to aircraft scatter, ie doppler 
shifted returns as well as the direct one.

So lots of possible explanations.

Graham

On 19:59, Gerard Elijzen wrote:



I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never seen 
this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.

Gerard VK2JNG





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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
I suspect this is/was a MCW generated signal with a bit too much drive 
applied.   Thus over drive of any audio stage such as may occur when 
feeding the computer output or sound card output to the microphone 
input.  In this configuration it is very easy to overdrive the first 
stage, which appears before any gain adjustments.  Once this stage is 
driven into distortion the least amount, no adjustments down stream in 
the audio chain will clean up the signal.  Also excessive ALC, and in 
some radios any degree of ALC will cause the artifact,  and any amount 
of audio processing will cause the basic same effect.


73 Bob, K4TAX

On 8/7/2015 8:38 AM, Graham g3tct wrote:

What frequency? What spacing between the peaks?
On VHF this effect can often be seen due to aircraft scatter, ie 
doppler shifted returns as well as the direct one.

So lots of possible explanations.

Graham

On 19:59, Gerard Elijzen wrote:



I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 
peaks on my PX3.


Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks 
for that.


Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have 
never seen this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.


Gerard VK2JNG





Gerard
vk2jng at iCloud dot com





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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Robin Moseley
could be sending  Audio tone CW from a sound card and overdriving? 


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[Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Norhey
One could think - after so many proposals on this thread - it's time for the originator to 
clarify/exclude some of the suggestions?


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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Fred Jensen
A distinct possibility.  For those that have a P3/PX3/SDR Panadapter and 
can hear WWV on several of its frequencies, compare the spectra of the 
2.5 and 20 MHz transmissions with those of the 5, 10, and 15 MHz ones. 
The 2.5 and 20 MHz transmitters are low level modulated followed by 
linear amplifier chains.  The others are plate modulated Class C.  The 
difference is striking.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 8/7/2015 7:06 AM, Robin Moseley wrote:

could be sending  Audio tone CW from a sound card and overdriving?
Robin G1MHU


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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-07 Thread Gaylord Gasque
Usually happens when the signal is strong and/or overdriven plus the noise
blanker is turned on.

Gaylord N4SF

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could be sending  Audio tone CW from a sound card and overdriving? 

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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread Bob N3MNT
Check both  I/Q plugs to insure they are all the way in.  I have seen this
when the plugs are not completely plugged in.  Push and rotate each plug for
a good connection..



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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread Myron Cherry
My P3 does that when the NB is on and the level is too high.
 
Myron

 

 
 On 8/5/2015 11:41 PM, Gerard Elijzen wrote:
 
 
  I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on 
  my PX3.
 
  Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.
 
  Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.
 
  Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never 
  seen this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gerald,

If you only saw it on one CW signal, I would suggest there is something 
wrong with his transmission.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/5/2015 11:41 PM, Gerard Elijzen wrote:



I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never seen 
this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.



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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread brian
I've heard some South American stations using modulated CW (tone 
modulated USB).This invariably produces sidebands.


If other signals don't show it, then it is possible you caught one of 
those guys.


73 de Brian/K3KO

On 8/6/2015 11:47 AM, Myron Cherry wrote:

My P3 does that when the NB is on and the level is too high.
  
Myron


  


On 8/5/2015 11:41 PM, Gerard Elijzen wrote:


I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never seen 
this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.


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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread Fred C. Jensen
Probably sidebands from stray modulation. Distance from carrier to one is the 
freq of the modulating signal. I've very occasionally heard what sounds like 
intentional MCW, you have to widen your filters to hear it but you can see it 
on a P(X)3.

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV

Gerard Elijzen vk2...@icloud.com wrote:



I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never 
seen this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.

Gerard VK2JNG





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vk2jng at iCloud dot com



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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
Mis-adjusted carrier null?  PS hum?

73

Ken - K0PP
On Aug 5, 2015 9:42 PM, Gerard Elijzen vk2...@icloud.com wrote:




 I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on
 my PX3.

 Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

 Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for
 that.

 Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never
 seen this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.

 Gerard VK2JNG





 Gerard
 vk2jng at iCloud dot com



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Re: [Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
Spurs, maybe?  Meaning the TX station.  Or maybe he was sending MCW
with a lot of distortion.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Thu, 06 Aug 2015 13:41:30 +1000, you wrote:




I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never 
seen this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.

Gerard VK2JNG





Gerard
vk2jng at iCloud dot com



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[Elecraft] CW reception with 3 peaks on PX3

2015-08-05 Thread Gerard Elijzen



I was in contact with a CW station recently and his signal had 3 peaks on my 
PX3.

Can anyone explain. The other station was using an ICOM 7410.

Submitted this also on the KX3 Yahoo forum and had 1 reply. Thanks for that.

Thought I might post it here in the hope to get an explanation. Have never seen 
this before and it does not happen on other CW stations.

Gerard VK2JNG





Gerard
vk2jng at iCloud dot com



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