Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3

2014-04-30 Thread Don Wilhelm

Slava,

Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere 
around that level.
It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is 
intended to be connected continuously.
Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference 
is not present.


I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the 
frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - 
rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator.  The spec for the XG3 is 
+/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per 
billion.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:

Hello again, everyone!
I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit in 
there from before.
The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration.
I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using 
(or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy).
I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the 
K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the frequency 
changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct).
My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. But 
the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be between 
+4 dBm and something else (higher).
XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this?




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Re: [Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3

2014-04-30 Thread Matt Zilmer
Typically, the Trimble Thunderbolt GPSDO 10 MHZ reference exceeds
+/-100 PPT.  Not sure of the statistics, but that's the high end of
the range Lady Heather reports.  This GPSDO outputs a slightly
distorted sine wave at around 8 dBm, which is within the K3's rated
input range.  I just leave mine connected full-time.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:25:02 -0400, you wrote:

Slava,

Most external reference sources have an output of +10 dBm or somewhere 
around that level.
It is not a matter of simply calibrating, the external reference is 
intended to be connected continuously.
Yes, there is a data table created that can be used when the reference 
is not present.

I really can't answer about the level of the XG3, but I am certain the 
frequency accuracy it is not as tight as a real external reference - 
rubidium standard or GPS disiplined oscillator.  The spec for the XG3 is 
+/- 50 ppm while an external reference is typically stated in parts per 
billion.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/29/2014 11:18 PM, Slava Baytalskiy wrote:
 Hello again, everyone!
 I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit 
 in there from before.
 The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration.
 I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using 
 (or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy).
 I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the 
 K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the 
 frequency changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct).
 My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. 
 But the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be 
 between +4 dBm and something else (higher).
 XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this?



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[Elecraft] Calibrating KTCXO3 with the XG3

2014-04-29 Thread Slava Baytalskiy
Hello again, everyone!
I just installed the K3EXREF board in my K3 and i also have the KTCXO3 unit in 
there from before.
The idea was to use the XG3 as the external 10 MHz reference for calibration.
I wasn't thrilled with the accuracy of the zero-beat method that i was using 
(or rather i wasn't thrilled with MY accuracy).
I think i did the procedure correctly: went to REF CAL menu, enabled the 
K3EXREF, hooked up the BNC cable, the asterisk started flashing, the frequency 
changed (clearly the zero-beat i did before wasn't correct).
My only question is about the output level of the XG3: i used the zero dBm. But 
the calibration procedure mentioned that the reference signal should be between 
+4 dBm and something else (higher).
XG3 doesn't seem to go that high though. Is that ok? Using zero dBm for this?

Thanks in advance!

Slava B
W2RMS
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