Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-06 Thread Fred Jensen
Are you sure you want to take your Elecraft radio to 88NV?  I'd put it 
in a Ziploc bag ... maybe double bag it.


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS: Be sure and spend some money as you pass thru Reno/Sparks! [:-)

On 9/5/2019 10:07 PM, Jim Shepherd wrote:

I'll vote for a tie dyed color scheme in the lighter colors... It will be
quite useful at BurningMan...
73

Jim W6US
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-05 Thread Jim Shepherd
I'll vote for a tie dyed color scheme in the lighter colors... It will be
quite useful at BurningMan...
73

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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-05 Thread Phil Kane
On 9/4/2019 8:11 PM, Charlie T wrote:

> Only the official "CD" portable/mobile and base station Gonsets were yellow
> and had the traditional  R/W/B Civil Defense triangle logo on them.

Those were the ones that I remember because I was the (solo) operator at
the Los Angeles Civil Defense District 43 station from 1957-1960.  As a
Tech I didn't have HF privileges and could only operate 2-meters as part
of RACES.  Times have changed.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-05 Thread Charlie T
Only the official "CD" portable/mobile and base station Gonsets were yellow
and had the traditional  R/W/B Civil Defense triangle logo on them.
I don't believe they were available to the general public.
The first two Gonset Communicators portable & base, were gray hammertone and
the third generation was white, with blue/gray knobs, very nice looking too.

73, Charlie k3ICH

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On 9/4/2019 6:41 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote:

> The specific patterns in Camo fabric are copyrighted but not the
technique. 

One of our friends has three kids who are US Naval officers.  She made a
significant comment on the dark grey and black cammo pattern that the Navy
uses - it makes it very easy for someone overboard to not be sighted!  :)

If I remember the Gonset "Gooney Bird" transceivers of the 1950s, they were
bright yellow, but safety orange is my all-time favorite.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Walter Underwood
Gigaparts sold repainted IC-7200 rigs in camo and pink.

https://www.gigaparts.com/multicam-camouflage-painted-ic-7200.html
https://www.gigaparts.com/icom-ic-7200-in-digital-camouflage.html
https://www.gigaparts.com/icom-ic-7200-with-pink-paint-job.html

ICOM also took custom-painted versions to hamfests.

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7200/camo.html

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Phil Kane  wrote:
> 
> On 9/4/2019 6:41 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote:
> 
>> The specific patterns in Camo fabric are copyrighted but not the technique. 
> 
> One of our friends has three kids who are US Naval officers.  She made a
> significant comment on the dark grey and black cammo pattern that the
> Navy uses - it makes it very easy for someone overboard to not be
> sighted!  :)
> 
> If I remember the Gonset "Gooney Bird" transceivers of the 1950s, they
> were bright yellow, but safety orange is my all-time favorite.
> 
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
> 
> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Phil Kane
On 9/4/2019 6:41 AM, Bob N3MNT wrote:

> The specific patterns in Camo fabric are copyrighted but not the technique. 

One of our friends has three kids who are US Naval officers.  She made a
significant comment on the dark grey and black cammo pattern that the
Navy uses - it makes it very easy for someone overboard to not be
sighted!  :)

If I remember the Gonset "Gooney Bird" transceivers of the 1950s, they
were bright yellow, but safety orange is my all-time favorite.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread ktalbott
I like tan but must admit that yellow might be more practical. Actually, I will 
use whatever Elecraft chooses as long as they sell little bottles of matching 
touchup paint. Well, I would actually use any Elecraft color even without the 
touchup paint.
Ken ke4rg

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'Wayne Burdick' 
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

I grabbed an image of a KX3 drawing and used the 'paint bucket' tool in Paint 
to create different colored KX3 renditions here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m9brk7bciaqijf7/AADywinNeBqHy7xaJWkPrM3fa?dl=0

Some look pretty cool.   You can take these and make your own colored versions 
...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

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> Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)
> 
> Dear OMs,   If the KX2 was yellow or pink it would be,easy to spot in the 
> grass or
> on a rock.73 Doug EI2CN Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Lyn Norstad  Date:
> 04/09/2019  14:36  (GMT+00:00) To: ktalb...@gamewood.net, 'Wayne Burdick'
>  Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2?   (Was: Copy cat - no way) "Flat Dark 
> Earth"
> is all the rage for hand guns these days.Lyn, W0LEN-Original 
> Message-
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> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ktalbott@gamewood.netSent:
> Tuesday, September 03, 2019 9:59 PMTo: 'Wayne Burdick'Cc: 'Elecraft
> Reflector'Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no 
> way)Desert tan with high contrast black labelsKen ke4rg-Original 
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> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> OnBehalf Of Wayne BurdickSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:26 PMTo: 
> Mike Morrow Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy 
> cat - no way)> Mike Morrow  wrote:> > ... [a] 
> characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its verydark 
> color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for 
> solarradiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. 
> :-)Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion 
> of such aharmful "feature" in a small radio.> > Mike / KK5FMike -- do 
> you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybea seafoam 
> camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game.Let's have a 
> vote.
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread David Gilbert


That's a pretty bad assertion.

A white (or very light) object will simply absorb much less heat ... 
all.day.long.   And it will still be able to reradiate heat.  Just not 
as effectively, but it wouldn't need to.


A dark object wouldn't be able to radiate its considerably greater 
absorbed heat until the sun went away, and by that time any potential 
damage would have been long done.


I have a low slope roof behind parapets sealed with white elastomeric 
roofing coating.  I can walk barefoot on it all day in the June Arizona 
sun and it barely feels warm.  I'd have blisters in less than a minute 
if it was even moderately brown like my wood decking is.


Dave  AB7E



On 9/4/2019 4:46 AM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote:

Hi Mike:
Don't forget... "the best absorbers are also the best radiators"...  So, if a 
light colored rig absorbs heat (and it would, eventually).. it would not be able to 
radiate it away, trapping heat inside and possibly causing damage to heat sensitive 
components.  For any rig, it's not a bad idea to shade it from direct solar radiation in 
any location.  Put it in shade or create some shade for the rig.
73 de RayK2ULR


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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread K8TE
Same here Bill.  For portable work with my K3, I use a small USB LED light
powered from my laptop.  It illuminates both the keyboard and K3 front
panel.

The dark black color scheme works well inside, but absorbs the huge sunlight
we have here in NM.  Perhaps a covering that "sticks" to the cases and
reflect the sunlight could work?

73, Bill, K8TE



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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Mike Flowers
I grabbed an image of a KX3 drawing and used the 'paint bucket' tool in Paint 
to create different colored KX3 renditions here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/m9brk7bciaqijf7/AADywinNeBqHy7xaJWkPrM3fa?dl=0

Some look pretty cool.   You can take these and make your own colored versions 
...

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, NCDXC Secretary

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> 
> Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)
> 
> Dear OMs,   If the KX2 was yellow or pink it would be,easy to spot in the 
> grass or
> on a rock.73 Doug EI2CN Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>  Original message From: Lyn Norstad  Date:
> 04/09/2019  14:36  (GMT+00:00) To: ktalb...@gamewood.net, 'Wayne Burdick'
>  Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2?   (Was: Copy cat - no way) "Flat Dark 
> Earth"
> is all the rage for hand guns these days.Lyn, W0LEN-Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net[mailto:elecraft-
> boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ktalbott@gamewood.netSent:
> Tuesday, September 03, 2019 9:59 PMTo: 'Wayne Burdick'Cc: 'Elecraft
> Reflector'Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)Desert
> tan with high contrast black labelsKen ke4rg-Original Message-From:
> elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> OnBehalf Of Wayne BurdickSent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:26 PMTo: Mike
> Morrow Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no
> way)> Mike Morrow  wrote:> > ... [a] characteristic that 
> is
> adverse to outdoor operation is its verydark color scheme.  That makes it an
> effective heat sink for solarradiation...never a good thing unless operating 
> in
> polar regions. :-)Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous
> inclusion of such aharmful "feature" in a small radio.> > Mike / KK5FMike -- 
> do
> you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybea seafoam
> camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game.Let's have a 
> vote.
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread turnbull
Dear OMs,   If the KX2 was yellow or pink it would be,easy to spot in the grass 
or on a rock.    73 Doug EI2CN Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Lyn Norstad  Date: 
04/09/2019  14:36  (GMT+00:00) To: ktalb...@gamewood.net, 'Wayne Burdick' 
 Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'  
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2?   (Was: Copy cat - no way) "Flat Dark Earth" 
is all the rage for hand guns these days.Lyn, W0LEN-Original 
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Behalf Of ktalbott@gamewood.netSent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 9:59 PMTo: 
'Wayne Burdick'Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: 
Copy cat - no way)Desert tan with high contrast black labelsKen 
ke4rg-Original Message-From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 OnBehalf Of Wayne BurdickSent: Tuesday, 
September 3, 2019 9:26 PMTo: Mike Morrow Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no 
way)> Mike Morrow  wrote:> > ... [a] characteristic that is 
adverse to outdoor operation is its verydark color scheme.  That makes it an 
effective heat sink for solarradiation...never a good thing unless operating in 
polar regions. :-)Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous 
inclusion of such aharmful "feature" in a small radio.> > Mike / KK5FMike -- do 
you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybea seafoam camo, 
or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game.Let's have a vote. 
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Bob N3MNT
The specific patterns in Camo fabric are copyrighted but not the technique. 
As long as you don't use the specific pattern you should be OK.  That is
tough to do with fabric but relatively easy to do with silk screen. 



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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Lyn Norstad
"Flat Dark Earth" is all the rage for hand guns these days.

Lyn, W0LEN


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of ktalb...@gamewood.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2019 9:59 PM
To: 'Wayne Burdick'
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

Desert tan with high contrast black labels
Ken ke4rg

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:26 PM
To: Mike Morrow 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)


> Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very
dark color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar
radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)
Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a
harmful "feature" in a small radio.
> 
> Mike / KK5F


Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe
a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game.
Let's have a vote. 

Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Raymond Sills via Elecraft
Hi Mike:
Don't forget... "the best absorbers are also the best radiators"...  So, if a 
light colored rig absorbs heat (and it would, eventually).. it would not be 
able to radiate it away, trapping heat inside and possibly causing damage to 
heat sensitive components.  For any rig, it's not a bad idea to shade it from 
direct solar radiation in any location.  Put it in shade or create some shade 
for the rig.
73 de RayK2ULR
KX3 #211.. which has Side KX.. and a big vented heat sink anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick 
To: Mike Morrow 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Sent: Tue, Sep 3, 2019 9:27 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)


> Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very dark 
> color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar 
> radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)  
> Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a 
> harmful "feature" in a small radio.
> 
> Mike / KK5F


Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe a 
seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. Let's 
have a vote. 

Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread David Wilcox via Elecraft
Remember guys, that is why Doug painted the PFR3 the bright yellow. many 
years ago... so it could be seen in the grass or in the field. 

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Sep 4, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Carter Craigie  wrote:
> 
> I think that a brighter color scheme would make for easier visibility when
> trying to find everything whilst on a hiking/hamming outing. In the
> twilight especially. I want to make sure I have EVERYTHING as I’m repacking
> my backpack!
> 73,
> Carter, N3AO
> Blacksburg, VA
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:41 PM Kent Olsen  wrote:
>> 
>> Im afraid I would lose my radio in the grass!
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 73
>> Kent
>> N6WT
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:36 PM David Gilbert 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> A bit counter intuitive, but for stealth purposes coral pink might be a
>>> good choice.  No way anyone ever would guess it was a radio.
>>> 
>>> I'm here all week ...
>>> 
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/3/2019 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme?
>>> Maybe a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm
>>> game. Let's have a vote.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-04 Thread Carter Craigie
I think that a brighter color scheme would make for easier visibility when
trying to find everything whilst on a hiking/hamming outing. In the
twilight especially. I want to make sure I have EVERYTHING as I’m repacking
my backpack!
73,
Carter, N3AO
Blacksburg, VA

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 9:41 PM Kent Olsen  wrote:

> Im afraid I would lose my radio in the grass!
>
> Thanks
> 73
> Kent
> N6WT
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:36 PM David Gilbert 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > A bit counter intuitive, but for stealth purposes coral pink might be a
> > good choice.  No way anyone ever would guess it was a radio.
> >
> > I'm here all week ...
> >
> > Dave   AB7E
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/3/2019 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > > Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme?
> > Maybe a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm
> > game. Let's have a vote.
> > >
> > > Wayne
> > > N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread ktalbott
Desert tan with high contrast black labels
Ken ke4rg

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Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2019 9:26 PM
To: Mike Morrow 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)


> Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very
dark color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar
radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)
Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a
harmful "feature" in a small radio.
> 
> Mike / KK5F


Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe
a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game.
Let's have a vote. 

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Fred Jensen
Hmmm ... There have been many cammo patterns over the years.  Our CJU's 
in SE Asia [long ago] were black and several shades of gray in what I 
think was called "Woodland something" pattern.  It also came in more 
woodland-ish colors [greens et al].  There was a period not too long ago 
when they were called "digital" because the pattern was made up of 
square "pixels" in a random pattern.  I believe that pattern also came 
in several shades, the Desert Tan being pretty common recently.  Are 
they all copyrighted?


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 9/3/2019 7:08 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

As "fallout" from Rose's case and cover efforts we find that cammo fabric
is copyrighted.  This from her main fabric supplier.  Don't know if this
applies to paint finish or not.

FWIW

73

Ken




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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Bill Frantz
I would like a light color where the dark printed labels have 
high contrast so they can be read in low light. I have the 
problem with my shack K3. I often try to operate it without 
turning on the lights, and always have a problem reading the 
labels. At least now I know where most of the are by memory.


73 Bill AE6JV

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Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color 
scheme? Maybe a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with 
fractal filigree? I'm game. Let's have a vote.


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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Ken G Kopp
As "fallout" from Rose's case and cover efforts we find that cammo fabric
is copyrighted.  This from her main fabric supplier.  Don't know if this
applies to paint finish or not.

FWIW

73

Ken

On Tue, Sep 3, 2019, 19:27 Wayne Burdick  wrote:

>
> > Mike Morrow  wrote:
> >
> > ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very
> dark color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar
> radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)
> Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a
> harmful "feature" in a small radio.
> >
> > Mike / KK5F
>
>
> Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme?
> Maybe a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm
> game. Let's have a vote.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Scott McDonald via Elecraft
How about an urban HOA tan stucco AX1 for us cliff dwellers as well? Scott 
Ka9p/0

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> On Sep 3, 2019, at 7:32 PM, HB via Elecraft  wrote:
> 
> Desert tan!!
> 
>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Mike Morrow  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very 
>>> dark color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar 
>>> radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)  
>>> Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a 
>>> harmful "feature" in a small radio.
>>> 
>>> Mike / KK5F
>> 
>> 
>> Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe 
>> a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. 
>> Let's have a vote. 
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Kent Olsen
Im afraid I would lose my radio in the grass!

Thanks
73
Kent
N6WT


On Tue, Sep 3, 2019 at 6:36 PM David Gilbert 
wrote:

>
> A bit counter intuitive, but for stealth purposes coral pink might be a
> good choice.  No way anyone ever would guess it was a radio.
>
> I'm here all week ...
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> On 9/3/2019 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> > Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme?
> Maybe a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm
> game. Let's have a vote.
> >
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Wayne Burdick


> David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> A bit counter intuitive, but for stealth purposes coral pink might be a good 
> choice.  No way anyone ever would guess it was a radio.
> 
> I'm here all week ...

Meaning we can expect additional edgy aesthetic proposals? 


> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/3/2019 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe 
>> a seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. 
>> Let's have a vote.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR



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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread David Gilbert


A bit counter intuitive, but for stealth purposes coral pink might be a 
good choice.  No way anyone ever would guess it was a radio.


I'm here all week ...

Dave   AB7E



On 9/3/2019 6:26 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe a 
seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. Let's 
have a vote.

Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread HB via Elecraft
Desert tan!!

> On Sep 3, 2019, at 9:26 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Mike Morrow  wrote:
>> 
>> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very dark 
>> color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar 
>> radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)  
>> Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a 
>> harmful "feature" in a small radio.
>> 
>> Mike / KK5F
> 
> 
> Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe a 
> seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. Let's 
> have a vote. 
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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[Elecraft] Cammo KX2? (Was: Copy cat - no way)

2019-09-03 Thread Wayne Burdick


> Mike Morrow  wrote:
> 
> ... [a] characteristic that is adverse to outdoor operation is its very dark 
> color scheme.  That makes it an effective heat sink for solar 
> radiation...never a good thing unless operating in polar regions. :-)  
> Unfortunately Icom is **not alone** with the gratuitous inclusion of such a 
> harmful "feature" in a small radio.
> 
> Mike / KK5F


Mike -- do you think there's a market for a lighter KX2 color scheme? Maybe a 
seafoam camo, or marzipan, or chrome with fractal filigree? I'm game. Let's 
have a vote. 

Wayne
N6KR


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