Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I bought a K3S and then I upgraded my #4XXX K3 which has two receivers with every upgrade that Elecraft offered. It was mostly just a fun project, but it's also a backup for the shack. One thing though, I swapped all the filters and just put the 2.7KHz ones I got with the K3S in the K3. And I also swapped the digital voice recorder. So I was trying to be somewhat frugal. - Chuck, KE9UW -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Is there a menu item that says what synthesizer is installed? Mike, NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Far worse than the K3 with the old synth in it. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/25/21 5:04 PM, Wes wrote: Yeah but... how did the Collins look? Wes N7WS On 1/25/2021 5:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I did something similar as well, I have a neighbor that lives around 700 feet away, he ran a Collins S-Line. I convinced him to buy a K3, which he did. I did screen grabs of his signal with the K3, and neither of us having a new synth, then when he installed his, then when I installed mine... Big differences, all documented using the P3 at: https://www.nk7z.net/k3/ 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
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Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
What was the last K3 serial number? 73, Dick WC1M 73, Dick WC1M > On Jan 25, 2021, at 1:46 PM, Scott Manthe wrote: > > The K3 had the new board after SN 8800. > > 73, > Scott N9AA > > >> On 1/25/21 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: >> Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If >> so, beginning at what serial number? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM >> On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: >>> >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data >>> List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is >>> just a few items lower. >>> >>> 73, >>> Henry - K4TMC >>> >>> >>> > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I wonder if I can upgrade my K3, (Sn # 53, yes 53), to the HRO-500 concentric knob? Anyone done that? And yes, I have expressed interest to Elecraft for the synth upgrade. We (K8AJ and myself) will be buying a K4, but when it shows up, um, she gets primary use of it. I'll be allowed to use the K3 and any leftover antennas. So I had better make the K3 the best I can. Tom K8TB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
When I ordered the 100W card for my K3, the one delivered was the one for the K3S with the bypass relay. As you got closer to the K3S radios, a K3 you ordered would have the more modern cards. Kinda of a gradual upgrade. If you hava a late serial K3, it might be worth popping the cover to see what is in your radio. 73 Bill AE6JV On 1/25/21 at 8:05 PM, hullspee...@gmail.com (Warren Merkel) wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:33:35 -0500 From: To: Henry Pollock - K4TMC Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM Yes. The K3 radios built right before the K3s was announced started coming with the KSYN3A. Mine is #8903 and came with two of the new synths. (sub RX) It also has the HPA from the K3s. Kinda a Premi-K3s Warren Merkel, KD4Z --- Bill Frantz| Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | it. | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com |- Scott McNealy (1999) | Peterborough, NH 03458 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:33:35 -0500 From: To: Henry Pollock - K4TMC Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM Yes. The K3 radios built right before the K3s was announced started coming with the KSYN3A. Mine is #8903 and came with two of the new synths. (sub RX) It also has the HPA from the K3s. Kinda a Premi-K3s Warren Merkel, KD4Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Yeah but... how did the Collins look? Wes N7WS On 1/25/2021 5:16 PM, Dave Cole wrote: I did something similar as well, I have a neighbor that lives around 700 feet away, he ran a Collins S-Line. I convinced him to buy a K3, which he did. I did screen grabs of his signal with the K3, and neither of us having a new synth, then when he installed his, then when I installed mine... Big differences, all documented using the P3 at: https://www.nk7z.net/k3/ 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Hi, Remember those filters are Roofing Filters, not the normal filters you see in a rig, and use to isolate a CW signal... The digital filter, (you just dial the bandwidth you want from the front panel), in the K3 far surpasses anything I have used in the past, I get to very narrow bandwidths, and not a sign of ringing... 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/25/21 4:05 PM, NJMike wrote: Wow. Thanks for all the replies! There are some options that I don't care about, like the extended receive range. I would like the I/O board, DVR, 100w, ATU. Not sure about the transverter but if I find a K3 that has it, fine. Is the main reason for getting the transverter option is so you can use the 144 option? I'm using the recommendation from the Elecraft website to determine the best choice of filters - 2.8, 2.1, 400, 250 & 200. 99% of what I do is CW and contests. I will sell/trade my K2/100 setup to help me make a deal! Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I did something similar as well, I have a neighbor that lives around 700 feet away, he ran a Collins S-Line. I convinced him to buy a K3, which he did. I did screen grabs of his signal with the K3, and neither of us having a new synth, then when he installed his, then when I installed mine... Big differences, all documented using the P3 at: https://www.nk7z.net/k3/ 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources On 1/25/21 4:07 PM, David Olean wrote: I bought a K3 SN 8858 just before the K3S was announced at Dayton. It had the new synthesizer. I was curious to see what the difference was between the two and ran a few simple tests in my alleged lab using an older K3 as a reference rig. I found the new rig had a lower noise floor by a small amount (several dB) and was quite a bit better in close in reception near very strong signals. I think I saw no debilitating effects of a 1 milliwatt signal that was 1.00 kHz away from a very weak signal right near the noise floor. I was impressed! 0dBm vs -138 dBm!! Dave K1WHS On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: Mike, You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is just a few items lower. 73, Henry - K4TMC On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM NJMike wrote: If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kilo4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k1...@metrocast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to d...@nk7z.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I bought a K3 SN 8858 just before the K3S was announced at Dayton. It had the new synthesizer. I was curious to see what the difference was between the two and ran a few simple tests in my alleged lab using an older K3 as a reference rig. I found the new rig had a lower noise floor by a small amount (several dB) and was quite a bit better in close in reception near very strong signals. I think I saw no debilitating effects of a 1 milliwatt signal that was 1.00 kHz away from a very weak signal right near the noise floor. I was impressed! 0dBm vs -138 dBm!! Dave K1WHS On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: Mike, You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is just a few items lower. 73, Henry - K4TMC On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM NJMike wrote: If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kilo4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k1...@metrocast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Wow. Thanks for all the replies! There are some options that I don't care about, like the extended receive range. I would like the I/O board, DVR, 100w, ATU. Not sure about the transverter but if I find a K3 that has it, fine. Is the main reason for getting the transverter option is so you can use the 144 option? I'm using the recommendation from the Elecraft website to determine the best choice of filters - 2.8, 2.1, 400, 250 & 200. 99% of what I do is CW and contests. I will sell/trade my K2/100 setup to help me make a deal! Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I bought everything to upgrade my 2008 dual receiver K3 to pseudo K3S status including a K3S style rubber ring for the main tuning knob . Barry VK2BJ On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 09:10, Charlie T wrote: > There a LOT of differences between the K3 and the K3S. > Many are minor improvements but some are major. > Built in low noise 6M pre-amp for one. You don't have to buy the outboard > unit. > Somewhere I made a list of them all when I was considering whether to > upgrade my K3 or buy a new K3S. > After looking at all the pluses, I went with the new radio. > Also, many of the K3 options will work in the new K3S too, so I basically > bought a bare-bones K3S-100W version and swapped the filters etc. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > On > Behalf Of AB1DD > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:03 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S > > I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near the > end of the K3 run. > > 73, > Carl > AB1DD > > Resistance is futile. > (don't know about reactance, though) > > > On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: > > Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If > so, beginning at what serial number? > > > > Thanks, > > Mike NJ2OM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to pin...@erols.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to vk...@optusnet.com.au > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I have an early K3 that I fully upgraded, including the KXV3B board that has the 6m preamp. I understand that the DSP and associated audio boards, and the RF boards also have upgraded circuits between the K3 and the K3s. Raj, N2RD Sent from my iPad > On Jan 25, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Charlie T wrote: > > There a LOT of differences between the K3 and the K3S. > Many are minor improvements but some are major. > Built in low noise 6M pre-amp for one. You don't have to buy the outboard > unit. > Somewhere I made a list of them all when I was considering whether to > upgrade my K3 or buy a new K3S. > After looking at all the pluses, I went with the new radio. > Also, many of the K3 options will work in the new K3S too, so I basically > bought a bare-bones K3S-100W version and swapped the filters etc. > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On > Behalf Of AB1DD > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:03 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S > > I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near the > end of the K3 run. > > 73, > Carl > AB1DD > > Resistance is futile. > (don't know about reactance, though) > > >> On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: >> Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If > so, beginning at what serial number? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to pin...@erols.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rmde...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
There a LOT of differences between the K3 and the K3S. Many are minor improvements but some are major. Built in low noise 6M pre-amp for one. You don't have to buy the outboard unit. Somewhere I made a list of them all when I was considering whether to upgrade my K3 or buy a new K3S. After looking at all the pluses, I went with the new radio. Also, many of the K3 options will work in the new K3S too, so I basically bought a bare-bones K3S-100W version and swapped the filters etc. 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of AB1DD Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near the end of the K3 run. 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: > Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I agree. My sort of early K3 ( s/n 17xx) simply has received every possible upgrade put including the new synth board and the new I/O board. So is pretty close to the K3S seems to me. If I was unlucky enough to have purchased the last K3 I would have simply put in all the upgrades. Both are worthy radios. My K3 is a field day veteran on a 4A club and did very well with nearby K3 stations ( we did an all Elecraft FD with a K2 and multiple K3s. With antenna gain on 40 and 20.) 73, tom w7sua On 1/25/2021 12:00 PM, Tim Tucker wrote: The new I/O board was also an option that was sold separately as an upgrade to the K3, as was the KXV3B, where the pre-amp was located. If you find a K3 with all those upgrades plus the synth (like mine ;), it's pretty close to the same thing as the K3S. On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:48 AM AB1DD wrote: Mike, You don't get the new knob and bezel! Seriously, You don't have the new i/o board, with it's sound card built in and USB connectivity. There are a couple other things changed on the mother board that you can't get anyway with out buying a K3S. They weren't showstoppers for me. There is a second preamp, more att. levels, built it ATU will bypass, better speaker amp, Fast rx/tx switching, extended 630 and 2200 meter bands. There might be more that I can't remember, but the synth and i/o board are the biggest. There was a chart on the Elecraft website but I don't know where it is now. Hope this helps 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 10:29 AM, NJMike wrote: If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to ae...@worldwidedx.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Yes me too I had barely unboxed my K3 and there it was the K3S. I came away feeling like I had been... well you know... Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2021, at 2:00 PM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft > wrote: > > I had the unfortunate timing of ordering a K3 about 2 months before the K3s > came out. My serial is 8964 and I have the new synthesizers which were > factory installed. I believe the K3s started at serial number 10,000. > > '73 de JIM N2ZZ > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AB1DD > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:03 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S > > I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near > the end of the K3 run. > > 73, > Carl > AB1DD > > Resistance is futile. > (don't know about reactance, though) > > >> On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: >> Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If > so, beginning at what serial number? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jboehne...@yahoo.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w5...@comcast.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I had the unfortunate timing of ordering a K3 about 2 months before the K3s came out. My serial is 8964 and I have the new synthesizers which were factory installed. I believe the K3s started at serial number 10,000. '73 de JIM N2ZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AB1DD Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 1:03 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near the end of the K3 run. 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: > Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to jboehne...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
The new I/O board was also an option that was sold separately as an upgrade to the K3, as was the KXV3B, where the pre-amp was located. If you find a K3 with all those upgrades plus the synth (like mine ;), it's pretty close to the same thing as the K3S. On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:48 AM AB1DD wrote: > Mike, > > You don't get the new knob and bezel! > > Seriously, You don't have the new i/o board, with it's sound card built > in and USB connectivity. There are a couple other things changed on the > mother board that you can't get anyway with out buying a K3S. They > weren't showstoppers for me. There is a second preamp, more att. levels, > built it ATU will bypass, better speaker amp, Fast rx/tx switching, > extended 630 and 2200 meter bands. There might be more that I can't > remember, but the synth and i/o board are the biggest. There was a chart > on the Elecraft website but I don't know where it is now. > > Hope this helps > > 73, > Carl > AB1DD > > Resistance is futile. > (don't know about reactance, though) > > > > On 1/25/2021 10:29 AM, NJMike wrote: > > If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - > what's the > > difference between it and the K3S? > > > > Thanks, > > Mike NJ2OM > > > > > > > > -- > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to ae...@worldwidedx.com > -- Owner, worldwidedx.com AE6LX, Amateur Radio __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
The K3 had the new board after SN 8800. 73, Scott N9AA On 1/25/21 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC wrote: Mike, You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is just a few items lower. 73, Henry - K4TMC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
I think it was, but have no idea what the starting S/N was. It was near the end of the K3 run. 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 11:33 AM, Mike Kopacki wrote: Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Was the KSYN3A synthesizer ever built into the K3 as a standard item? If so, beginning at what serial number? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM > On Jan 25, 2021, at 10:51 AM, Henry Pollock - K4TMC > wrote: > > > Mike, > > You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data > List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is > just a few items lower. > > 73, > Henry - K4TMC > > >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM NJMike wrote: >> If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the >> difference between it and the K3S? >> >> Thanks, >> Mike NJ2OM >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to kilo4...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
The K3 has a bipolar HPA, the K3S is FET. In my case the bipolar is more reliable and has lower TX IMD. Wes N7WS On 1/25/2021 8:48 AM, AB1DD wrote: Mike, You don't get the new knob and bezel! Seriously, You don't have the new i/o board, with it's sound card built in and USB connectivity. There are a couple other things changed on the mother board that you can't get anyway with out buying a K3S. They weren't showstoppers for me. There is a second preamp, more att. levels, built it ATU will bypass, better speaker amp, Fast rx/tx switching, extended 630 and 2200 meter bands. There might be more that I can't remember, but the synth and i/o board are the biggest. There was a chart on the Elecraft website but I don't know where it is now. Hope this helps 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 10:29 AM, NJMike wrote: If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to wes_n...@triconet.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Sorry, the below att levels should have been Preamp levels, and the ATU should be built in! Need another cup of coffee. 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 10:48 AM, AB1DD wrote: Mike, You don't get the new knob and bezel! Seriously, You don't have the new i/o board, with it's sound card built in and USB connectivity. There are a couple other things changed on the mother board that you can't get anyway with out buying a K3S. They weren't showstoppers for me. There is a second preamp, more att. levels, built it ATU will bypass, better speaker amp, Fast rx/tx switching, extended 630 and 2200 meter bands. There might be more that I can't remember, but the synth and i/o board are the biggest. There was a chart on the Elecraft website but I don't know where it is now. Hope this helps 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Mike, You can look at the numbers on Sherwood Engineering's Receiver Test Data List, specifically the 5th, 6th and 7th items from the top, and the KX3 is just a few items lower. 73, Henry - K4TMC On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 10:29 AM NJMike wrote: > If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's > the > difference between it and the K3S? > > Thanks, > Mike NJ2OM > > > > -- > Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to kilo4...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
Mike, You don't get the new knob and bezel! Seriously, You don't have the new i/o board, with it's sound card built in and USB connectivity. There are a couple other things changed on the mother board that you can't get anyway with out buying a K3S. They weren't showstoppers for me. There is a second preamp, more att. levels, built it ATU will bypass, better speaker amp, Fast rx/tx switching, extended 630 and 2200 meter bands. There might be more that I can't remember, but the synth and i/o board are the biggest. There was a chart on the Elecraft website but I don't know where it is now. Hope this helps 73, Carl AB1DD Resistance is futile. (don't know about reactance, though) On 1/25/2021 10:29 AM, NJMike wrote: If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Difference between a K3 and a K3S
If a K3 has been upgraded to the latest synthesizer - the KSYN3A - what's the difference between it and the K3S? Thanks, Mike NJ2OM -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
