Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
I have read the manuals for the equipment I have, sometimes several times. The last time I had a problem, poor RX sensitivity on my K3 I ended up in the trouble shooting section. It quickly lead me to the problem: I had switched a separate RX antenna on, with nothing connected on the back of the radio. Going back to a common TX+RX antenna quickly cured the problem. BTW, the leakage was strong enough to copy W1AW code practice in California. Thanks Ron and the rest of the tech writers for the manuals. They are generally very good. Also three cheers for including an index. None of the manuals for my other radios have an index and become almost useless as a result. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 6/28/13 at 7:41 PM, r...@cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) wrote: I write some of Elecraft's manuals, and customer support is forever noting that a customer called about this (covered on page 4) and that (on pages 9 and 11) and the other thing (page 15). --- Bill Frantz|After all, if the conventional wisdom was working, the 408-356-8506 | rate of systems being compromised would be going down, www.pwpconsult.com | wouldn't it? -- Marcus Ranum __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
Blaise Pascal once began a letter with: I am sorry I have had to write you such a long letter, but I did not have time to write you a short one He was quite right. Writing something short and concise takes much longer than writing a lengthy tome. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- David, 5 pages is too long. If it cannot be covered in half a page, it will not be read, and even that half page may not be read. I made a 1 page note on K2 operation for Field Day and even then an experienced digital operator put the K2 in Digital mode using USB instead of RTTY mode and had trouble because USB mode had compression turned on. Once we switched to RTTY mode, the transmit distortion was gone and digital contacts were possible. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/28/2013 10:02 PM, david Moes wrote: I also created a 5 page printed guide and leaving at the station thinking it would be read. That was dumb, as I still had to answer many questions that were all answered in the guide. Finally I just answered those by just putting the guide in front of them and saying Page 3 or Page 4. or whatever page it was on. My mistake and it seems you did it correct is I will need to do a presentation next year. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
Re: Thanks Ron and the rest of the tech writers for the manuals. And another tip-of-the-hat from me to Ron and the other manual writers. I also appreciate the posts Ron makes on this list, and the KX3 Yahoo group. He always writes clearly, technically sound, and never insulting. Throughout my career, I appreciated the Tech Writers who took my mixed up engineering babble and made sense out of it. Now that I am retired, it is nice to see that I can still enjoy this often under-appreciated skill. Respectfully, Mark KE6BB From: Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com ...Thanks Ron and the rest of the tech writers for the manuals. They are generally very good. Also three cheers for including an index. None of the manuals for my other radios have an index and become almost useless as a result. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 6/28/13 at 7:41 PM, r...@cobi.biz (Ron D'Eau Claire) wrote: I write some of Elecraft's manuals, and customer support is forever noting that a customer called about this (covered on page 4) and that (on pages 9 and 11) and the other thing (page 15). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
Re: I am sorry I have had to write you such a long letter, but I did not have time to write you a short one That describes me perfectly! I just cannot seem to write a short post...well, hopefully this one will be! Mark KE6BB From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP Blaise Pascal once began a letter with: I am sorry I have had to write you such a long letter, but I did not have time to write you a short one He was quite right. Writing something short and concise takes much longer than writing a lengthy tome. 73, Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
Mark, sorry OM. Your post is still too long! 8-) Ditto Would've sufficed. :-D big grin 73 Milverton. From: Mark Petiford rv6am...@yahoo.com To: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP Re: I am sorry I have had to write you such a long letter, but I did not have time to write you a short one That describes me perfectly! I just cannot seem to write a short post...well, hopefully this one will be! Mark KE6BB From: Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP Blaise Pascal once began a letter with: I am sorry I have had to write you such a long letter, but I did not have time to write you a short one He was quite right. Writing something short and concise takes much longer than writing a lengthy tome. 73, Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
I gave my presentation on the Friday prior to Field Day. I had a couple of questions on clarifications and afterwards several hams came up to me and thanked me because they felt it was a big help. I especially focused on the TAP/HOLD differences and the fact that most functions are clearly marked. I noted that ergonomically the layout of the K3 has similar functions in the same general area on the panel. So the result on Field Day this year was that the several operators who used my K3 felt much more comfortable with it. I did need to answer a couple of queries on the fly but over all most of the ops enjoyed using my K3 and P3. One of the most timid of last years ops told me she really felt that the K3 was pretty easy to use now that she understood the TAP/HOLD functions. In fact she would consider an Elecraft product next time she was in the market. Most of the ops really loved the P3 and it's ability to easily hunt and pounce. I showed a couple of hams how easy it was to be running on a frequency and hunt and pounce using the 2nd receiver on the same band. That totally amazed a couple of people. As a bonus, our club has 2 Kenwood 930s, one of which is having issues. So next year, we will probably be using not only my K3, but my KX3 with the 100W amp for a second station. Retiring one of the 930s (thankfully) since they have no filtering. As with several FD operations we can run CW and SSB on any band at the same time. The K3 output is very clean, not causing any RFI issues (as expected). The 930s do not cause RFI in the K3, even though they have issues with each other on some bands. -- John Fritze Jr K2QY AARA president 2013 ACACES secretary 2013 Albany County RACES Radio Officer ARES ENY DEC Northern District Hudson Div. Asst. Director Twitter: @k2qy __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
nice job John... what did you guys run this time around.. 3a ?? how did you do over all you think?? On 6/28/2013 9:01 AM, John Fritze wrote: I gave my presentation on the Friday prior to Field Day. I had a couple of questions on clarifications and afterwards several hams came up to me and thanked me because they felt it was a big help. I especially focused on the TAP/HOLD differences and the fact that most functions are clearly marked. I noted that ergonomically the layout of the K3 has similar functions in the same general area on the panel. So the result on Field Day this year was that the several operators who used my K3 felt much more comfortable with it. I did need to answer a couple of queries on the fly but over all most of the ops enjoyed using my K3 and P3. One of the most timid of last years ops told me she really felt that the K3 was pretty easy to use now that she understood the TAP/HOLD functions. In fact she would consider an Elecraft product next time she was in the market. Most of the ops really loved the P3 and it's ability to easily hunt and pounce. I showed a couple of hams how easy it was to be running on a frequency and hunt and pounce using the 2nd receiver on the same band. That totally amazed a couple of people. As a bonus, our club has 2 Kenwood 930s, one of which is having issues. So next year, we will probably be using not only my K3, but my KX3 with the 100W amp for a second station. Retiring one of the 930s (thankfully) since they have no filtering. As with several FD operations we can run CW and SSB on any band at the same time. The K3 output is very clean, not causing any RFI issues (as expected). The 930s do not cause RFI in the K3, even though they have issues with each other on some bands. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
I also created a 5 page printed guide and leaving at the station thinking it would be read. That was dumb, as I still had to answer many questions that were all answered in the guide. Finally I just answered those by just putting the guide in front of them and saying Page 3 or Page 4. or whatever page it was on. My mistake and it seems you did it correct is I will need to do a presentation next year. David Moes dm...@nexicom.net VE3DVY On 6/28/2013 09:01, John Fritze wrote: I gave my presentation on the Friday prior to Field Day. I had a couple of questions on clarifications and afterwards several hams came up to me and thanked me because they felt it was a big help. I especially focused on the TAP/HOLD differences and the fact that most functions are clearly marked. I noted that ergonomically the layout of the K3 has similar functions in the same general area on the panel. So the result on Field Day this year was that the several operators who used my K3 felt much more comfortable with it. I did need to answer a couple of queries on the fly but over all most of the ops enjoyed using my K3 and P3. One of the most timid of last years ops told me she really felt that the K3 was pretty easy to use now that she understood the TAP/HOLD functions. In fact she would consider an Elecraft product next time she was in the market. Most of the ops really loved the P3 and it's ability to easily hunt and pounce. I showed a couple of hams how easy it was to be running on a frequency and hunt and pounce using the 2nd receiver on the same band. That totally amazed a couple of people. As a bonus, our club has 2 Kenwood 930s, one of which is having issues. So next year, we will probably be using not only my K3, but my KX3 with the 100W amp for a second station. Retiring one of the 930s (thankfully) since they have no filtering. As with several FD operations we can run CW and SSB on any band at the same time. The K3 output is very clean, not causing any RFI issues (as expected). The 930s do not cause RFI in the K3, even though they have issues with each other on some bands. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
As a professional technical writer off and on since the early 1960's I can say that the ONLY time my audience willingly devoured the written manuals before diving in were the manuals I wrote for defusing live ordinance (bombs) during the Vietnam war. I write some of Elecraft's manuals, and customer support is forever noting that a customer called about this (covered on page 4) and that (on pages 9 and 11) and the other thing (page 15). 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I also created a 5 page printed guide and leaving at the station thinking it would be read. That was dumb, as I still had to answer many questions that were all answered in the guide. Finally I just answered those by just putting the guide in front of them and saying Page 3 or Page 4. or whatever page it was on. My mistake and it seems you did it correct is I will need to do a presentation next year. David Moes dm...@nexicom.net VE3DVY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Field Day Guide to K3 and P3 by K2QY--RECAP
David, 5 pages is too long. If it cannot be covered in half a page, it will not be read, and even that half page may not be read. I made a 1 page note on K2 operation for Field Day and even then an experienced digital operator put the K2 in Digital mode using USB instead of RTTY mode and had trouble because USB mode had compression turned on. Once we switched to RTTY mode, the transmit distortion was gone and digital contacts were possible. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/28/2013 10:02 PM, david Moes wrote: I also created a 5 page printed guide and leaving at the station thinking it would be read. That was dumb, as I still had to answer many questions that were all answered in the guide. Finally I just answered those by just putting the guide in front of them and saying Page 3 or Page 4. or whatever page it was on. My mistake and it seems you did it correct is I will need to do a presentation next year. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
