Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[David Herring]

TU Mark…yeah...I didn’t remember that at first…well, one learns (or re-learns) 
something new everyday…

The KX2 came out around 2016, and the KX3 around 2011, if I am remembering 
correctly now.

Anyhow, the point of that (mis)statement was to say that while there may be a 
new rig on the drawing board, we don’t really know, a new rig doesn’t 
necessarily mean an older one is going away.  This being offered in response to 
the ongoing question, posed by others - not me, of whether the KX3 is going to 
be end-of-life’d soon.


73,
Dave - N5DCH




> On Jul 19, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Mark Musick  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> The KX2 came out after the KX3.
> They are two different platforms aimed at two different markets. The KX2 is 
> 80-10 meters only with an internal ATU. The KX3 is 160-2 meters (with the 
> internal transverter) and internal ATU with optional PX3.
> Elecraft points this out on their website.
> From their website see below.
> 
> KX2 vs KX3: Which one should I buy?   Learn More  
> https://elecraft.com/pages/kx2-vs-kx3-which-one-should-i-buy 
> <https://elecraft.com/pages/kx2-vs-kx3-which-one-should-i-buy>
> 
> There never was any intention of one replacing the other.
> 
> 73,
> Mark, WB9CIF
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>  <mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> On Behalf Of David Herring
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 14:25
> To: Elecraft Forum  <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?
> 
> Speaking of looking ahead, some time ago (year or more?) Wayne did solicit 
> input from the email list as to what we’d like to see in a rig that would 
> compete in the KX2 - KX3 market space.  That suggests to me that potentially 
> a KX4 (or something of that ilk)  is at least being thought about.
> 
> That is just offered as a data point.  We cannot necessarily conclude that 
> the KX2 or KX3 are about to be end-of-life’d.  After all, the KX3 didn’t 
> sunset the KX2...
> 
> 73,
> Dave - N5DCH
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Todd KH2TJ  wrote:
>> 
>> Elecraft is good at keeping things hush-hush    The little FX-4C, and 
>> now the FX-4CR, are selling like hot cakes!  Still can't beat the 
>> performance of the KX2 or the KX3 though.   I wouldn't be surprised if 
>> they're not looking "ahead"
>> 
>> I too had thought about snatching up a KX3 just to have 6 meters in a trail 
>> friendly setup...
>> 
>> Later,
>> Todd KH2TJ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Paul GACEK
>> 
>> 
>> I don’t think the KX3 is going obsolete and I believe any idea of a KX3+, 
>> KX3 v2 or even a KX4, a flight of fantasy.
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Mark Musick]

Hi Dave,
The KX2 came out after the KX3.
They are two different platforms aimed at two different markets. The KX2 is 
80-10 meters only with an internal ATU. The KX3 is 160-2 meters (with the 
internal transverter) and internal ATU with optional PX3.
Elecraft points this out on their website.
From their website see below.

KX2 vs KX3: Which one should I buy?   Learn More  
https://elecraft.com/pages/kx2-vs-kx3-which-one-should-i-buy

There never was any intention of one replacing the other.

73,
Mark, WB9CIF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of David Herring
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 14:25
To: Elecraft Forum 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

Speaking of looking ahead, some time ago (year or more?) Wayne did solicit 
input from the email list as to what we’d like to see in a rig that would 
compete in the KX2 - KX3 market space.  That suggests to me that potentially a 
KX4 (or something of that ilk)  is at least being thought about.

That is just offered as a data point.  We cannot necessarily conclude that the 
KX2 or KX3 are about to be end-of-life’d.  After all, the KX3 didn’t sunset the 
KX2...

73,
Dave - N5DCH




> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Todd KH2TJ  wrote:
>
> Elecraft is good at keeping things hush-hush    The little FX-4C, and 
> now the FX-4CR, are selling like hot cakes!  Still can't beat the performance 
> of the KX2 or the KX3 though.   I wouldn't be surprised if they're not 
> looking "ahead"
>
> I too had thought about snatching up a KX3 just to have 6 meters in a trail 
> friendly setup...
>
> Later,
> Todd KH2TJ
>
>
> 
> From: Paul GACEK
>
>
> I don’t think the KX3 is going obsolete and I believe any idea of a KX3+, KX3 
> v2 or even a KX4, a flight of fantasy.
>
> Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[David Herring]

Speaking of looking ahead, some time ago (year or more?) Wayne did solicit 
input from the email list as to what we’d like to see in a rig that would 
compete in the KX2 - KX3 market space.  That suggests to me that potentially a 
KX4 (or something of that ilk)  is at least being thought about.  

That is just offered as a data point.  We cannot necessarily conclude that the 
KX2 or KX3 are about to be end-of-life’d.  After all, the KX3 didn’t sunset the 
KX2...

73,
Dave - N5DCH




> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:45 PM, Todd KH2TJ  wrote:
> 
> Elecraft is good at keeping things hush-hush    The little FX-4C, and 
> now the FX-4CR, are selling like hot cakes!  Still can't beat the performance 
> of the KX2 or the KX3 though.   I wouldn't be surprised if they're not 
> looking "ahead"
> 
> I too had thought about snatching up a KX3 just to have 6 meters in a trail 
> friendly setup...
> 
> Later,
> Todd KH2TJ
> 
> 
> 
> From: Paul GACEK
> 
> 
> I don’t think the KX3 is going obsolete and I believe any idea of a KX3+, KX3 
> v2 or even a KX4, a flight of fantasy.
> 
> Paul
> W6PNG/M0SNA
> www.nomadic.blog
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[Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[John Harper]

As someone who's owned two KX2's and two FX-4CR's, I can tell you that the
FX-4CR will never be mistaken for an E product.

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com

>The little FX-4C, and now the FX-4CR, are selling like hot cakes!
Still can't beat the performance of the KX2 or the KX3 though.
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Todd KH2TJ]

Elecraft is good at keeping things hush-hush    The little FX-4C, and now 
the FX-4CR, are selling like hot cakes!  Still can't beat the performance of 
the KX2 or the KX3 though.   I wouldn't be surprised if they're not looking 
"ahead"

I too had thought about snatching up a KX3 just to have 6 meters in a trail 
friendly setup...

Later,
Todd KH2TJ



From: Paul GACEK


I don’t think the KX3 is going obsolete and I believe any idea of a KX3+, KX3 
v2 or even a KX4, a flight of fantasy.

Paul
W6PNG/M0SNA
www.nomadic.blog

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[Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Bob McGraw]

AMEN   Just keep on keeping on.

73

Bob, K4TAX


On 7/18/2023 11:43 AM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:


Good grief.? Get a life.? Not everything in this world is racist, discriminatory
or homophobic. In fact, I'm old enough to remember when being discriminating was
a virtue, a sign of good taste; gay was happy and binary was a number system.?
But then I'm an elderly heterosexual white male, so what do I know?


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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Carl Jón Denbow]

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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Carl Jón Denbow]

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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Lee Hiers]

Regardless of your personal opinion and over-reaction (IMO), Mr. Isaacs'
post was in extremely poor taste.  And I'm in the exact same demographic
you're in.

Lee, AA4GA


On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 5:23 PM Wes  wrote:

> Good grief.  Get a life.  Not everything in this world is racist,
> discriminatory
> or homophobic. In fact, I'm old enough to remember when being
> discriminating was
> a virtue, a sign of good taste; gay was happy and binary was a number
> system.
> But then I'm an elderly heterosexual white male, so what do I know?
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[df...@darc.de]

I agree. It’s like on air: no politics, no religion. 

(BTW: I myself never feel offended when in a QSO or a face-to-face conversation 
in english somebody raises his eyebrows or makes a joke due to my funny kraut 
accent – but YMMV.)


73
Hans, DF3DD



> Am 17.07.2023 um 23:37 schrieb Pete Smith N4ZR :
> 
> Time to kill this topic.
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
> On 7/17/2023 5:22 PM, Wes wrote:
>> Good grief.  Get a life.  Not everything in this world is racist, 
>> discriminatory or homophobic. In fact, I'm old enough to remember when being 
>> discriminating was a virtue, a sign of good taste; gay was happy and binary 
>> was a number system.  But then I'm an elderly heterosexual white male, so 
>> what do I know?
>> 
>> N7WS
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/17/2023 11:13 AM, KJ7SOY wrote:
>>> I’m sure you were trying to be funny, but that’s a racist statement and not 
>>> at all humorous. Poking fun at an accent isn’t acceptable.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Pete Smith N4ZR]

Time to kill this topic.

73, Pete N4ZR

On 7/17/2023 5:22 PM, Wes wrote:
Good grief.  Get a life.  Not everything in this world is racist, 
discriminatory or homophobic. In fact, I'm old enough to remember when 
being discriminating was a virtue, a sign of good taste; gay was happy 
and binary was a number system.  But then I'm an elderly heterosexual 
white male, so what do I know?


N7WS


On 7/17/2023 11:13 AM, KJ7SOY wrote:
I’m sure you were trying to be funny, but that’s a racist statement 
and not at all humorous. Poking fun at an accent isn’t acceptable.






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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Wes]

Good grief.  Get a life.  Not everything in this world is racist, discriminatory 
or homophobic. In fact, I'm old enough to remember when being discriminating was 
a virtue, a sign of good taste; gay was happy and binary was a number system.  
But then I'm an elderly heterosexual white male, so what do I know?


N7WS


On 7/17/2023 11:13 AM, KJ7SOY wrote:

I’m sure you were trying to be funny, but that’s a racist statement and not at 
all humorous. Poking fun at an accent isn’t acceptable.





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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[KJ7SOY]

I’m sure you were trying to be funny, but that’s a racist statement and not at 
all humorous. Poking fun at an accent isn’t acceptable. 




> On Jul 17, 2023, at 11:09 AM, Richard Isaacs via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, and if business trends are true…short line, discontinuing products, not 
> being able to keep up with new products, shortage of parts, that equals a 
> perfect opportunity for a Chinese company to come in and buy them with a new 
> name of ELECLAFT.
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
>> 
>> Things become obsolete when replacement parts and/or service are no longer 
>> available.  It tends to happen suddenly, often accompanied by the release of 
>> smoke.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote on 7/17/2023 8:21 AM:
>>> I don't think an radio is obsolete unless/until it doesn't meet emission 
>>> standards. I have IC735 that I still enjoy operating when I want a hit of 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Richard Isaacs via Elecraft]

Yes, and if business trends are true…short line, discontinuing products, not 
being able to keep up with new products, shortage of parts, that equals a 
perfect opportunity for a Chinese company to come in and buy them with a new 
name of ELECLAFT.

> On Jul 17, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
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> Things become obsolete when replacement parts and/or service are no longer 
> available.  It tends to happen suddenly, often accompanied by the release of 
> smoke.
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> 73,
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> Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote on 7/17/2023 8:21 AM:
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Fred Jensen]

Things become obsolete when replacement parts and/or service are no 
longer available.  It tends to happen suddenly, often accompanied by the 
release of smoke.


73,

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[Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

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 I don't think an radio is obsolete unless/until it doesn't meet emission 
standards. I have IC735 that I still enjoy operating when I want a hit of QRO! 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Dave (NK7Z)]

Don't forget it is also used for the W2 wattmeters...

73, and thanks,
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On 7/15/23 17:17, Gary Hembree wrote:
I have no idea where you got your information from but the KXUSB cable 
is still listed as for sale by Elecraft in three different places on 
their website.


https://elecraft.com/pages/tuners-kat500-kxat-t1 under KAT500_Power 
Cords & Cables
https://elecraft.com/pages/kx-line-transceivers-kx2-kx3 under KX2 Power 
Cords and Cables
https://elecraft.com/pages/kx-line-transceivers-kx2-kx3 under KX3 Power 
Cords and Cables


Since it is used by the very popular KAT500 I doubt it will be 
discontinued any time soon.  You might want to fact-check before posting 
second-hand information.


73
Gary, N
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eA Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:31:14 -0700

I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
Elecraft is planning
to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?


I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..

73/ed
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Gary Hembree]

I have no idea where you got your information from but the KXUSB cable 
is still listed as for sale by Elecraft in three different places on 
their website.


https://elecraft.com/pages/tuners-kat500-kxat-t1 under KAT500_Power 
Cords & Cables
https://elecraft.com/pages/kx-line-transceivers-kx2-kx3 under KX2 Power 
Cords and Cables
https://elecraft.com/pages/kx-line-transceivers-kx2-kx3 under KX3 Power 
Cords and Cables


Since it is used by the very popular KAT500 I doubt it will be 
discontinued any time soon.  You might want to fact-check before posting 
second-hand information.


73
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eA Sat, 15 Jul 2023 06:31:14 -0700

I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
Elecraft is planning
to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?


I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..

73/ed
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[David Gilbert]

I think you are most likely wrong about that.  Elecraft is quite 
obviously paring down their line of products and the lower end of the 
scale is just about gone.


Dave   AB7E



On 7/15/2023 6:29 AM, eA wrote:

I'm sure they've been working on a
replacement


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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Paul GACEK via Elecraft]

My comments earlier are based on a brief chat with Eric at Friedrichshafen.

I’m reasonably convinced the KX3 will still be a part of our future.

Paul
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> On Jul 15, 2023, at 5:04 PM, KJ7SOY  wrote:
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> I hope not! I’d still like to buy a KX3 one of these days!
> 
> Adrian
> K7RJS
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> 
>> On Jul 15, 2023, at 7:29 AM, John Paul Keon  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a KX3 too.  Have hardly used it in the last two years.
>> Covid put a stop to me going out period.
>> I am wondering too, if they are stopping production?  Or making a newer
>> radio?
>> 
>> John Paul // AB4PP
>> 
 On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM eA  wrote:
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>>> I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
>>> I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
>>> Elecraft is planning
>>> to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
>>> replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?
>>> 
>>> I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[KJ7SOY]

I hope not! I’d still like to buy a KX3 one of these days!

Adrian
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> On Jul 15, 2023, at 7:29 AM, John Paul Keon  wrote:
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> I have a KX3 too.  Have hardly used it in the last two years.
> Covid put a stop to me going out period.
> I am wondering too, if they are stopping production?  Or making a newer
> radio?
> 
> John Paul // AB4PP
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM eA  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
>> I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
>> Elecraft is planning
>> to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
>> replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?
>> 
>> I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[John Paul Keon]

I have a KX3 too.  Have hardly used it in the last two years.
Covid put a stop to me going out period.
I am wondering too, if they are stopping production?  Or making a newer
radio?

John Paul // AB4PP

On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM eA  wrote:

> I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
> I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
> Elecraft is planning
> to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
> replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?
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Re: [Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[Paul GACEK via Elecraft]

I don’t think the KX3 is going obsolete and I believe any idea of a KX3+, KX3 
v2 or even a KX4, a flight of fantasy.

Paul
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> On Jul 15, 2023, at 3:31 PM, eA  wrote:
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> I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
> I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
> Elecraft is planning
> to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
> replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?
> 
> I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..
> 
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[Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete soon?

[eA]

I noticed elecraft has discontinued selling the KXUSB cable! I have one so
I don't need it but my more important question: Is this a sign
Elecraft is planning
to replace the KX3 in the near future? I'm sure they've been working on a
replacement and as they sell off inventory will a replacement come soon?

I love my KX3 but it gets very little use these days..

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