Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Roney,
congrats for your K1 jewel > nice pics on Flickr. 
Yes, I am sure you will be really satisfied with that little rig. If it is
properly aligned then it works like champ anywhere you are.
maybe it is time to buy some additional parts until they will be gone...
Good luck!
73 - Petr, OK1RP



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Bill Frantz]

I started with a magnifier on an arm with a circular florescent 
lamp. I still use this device for anything which needs a bit of 
magnification including inspecting thru-hole boards and fixing 
knitting mistakes. I assembled a number of kits with SMT parts 
using this magnifier.


I then got a cheap head-mounted magnifier with a built in LED 
light. It gives more magnification, but I haven't used it in any 
important project yet. It has the advantage of being portable, 
so it can go to field day to makes repairs.


Then I came across a Bausch and Lomb zoom binocular microscope 
with a ring light for $120 at an electronics flea market. After 
checking it out, I quickly paid the seller. It is excellent for 
inspecting SMT parts for good solder connections.


All of these devices can help with construction projects.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 8/31/17 at 11:00 AM, w6...@me.com (James Bennett) wrote:

Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been 
using +250 readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp 
collector since age eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig 
don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for reading 
(du) but when it comes to really small, close-up 
examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago 
and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. 
Couple years ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based 
QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors and 
capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. 
Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built 
several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope 
to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another 
thing… :-(

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Wes Stewart]

Coffee.

In the early 1980's I was working on a new PA design for Phoenix Missile.  The 
original design used relatively narrow band klystons, and we needed more BW for, 
well, never mind.  So the new design used a three-stage IMPATT diode amplifier 
(injection-locked oscillator in reality). A single diode driving a three-diode 
combiner driving a 16-diode combiner.  The IMPATTs needed to be pretty well 
matched, a real problem with the state of the art at the time.


So before we characterized each one in a test fixture, we serialized them.  Mind 
you these were microwave packages with a ceramic pill mounted on a 1/8" diameter 
gold-plated copper flange with a 3-48 stud on the bottom.  We just used a very 
fine probe to scratch the 10 digit serial number on the flange.  I could do 
about 30 diodes first thing in the morning.  After that and a cup or two of 
coffee I was done for the day.


Wes  N7WS


 On 8/31/2017 11:21 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades one's 
ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies.  One sneeze and your project 
is over.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Clay Autery]

LOL!!  Well, yeah, if you have all the parts out in a pile...  I have
organizers I use so that I never have more out on the work surface than
absolutely required.  And I don't even have allergies...  but I have had
a sneeze scatter little parts before.

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On 8/31/2017 1:21 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades
> one's ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies.  One sneeze and
> your project is over.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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> Washoe County
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Fred Jensen]

There is one infirmity that has not yet been mentioned that degrades 
one's ability to work with SMT devices ... allergies.  One sneeze and 
your project is over.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/31/2017 11:00 AM, James Bennett wrote:

Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250 readers 
for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age eight. Bad eyes 
and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for 
reading (du) but when it comes to really small, close-up examination of 
stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago and purchased a fairly 
inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years ago I took the plunge and 
built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors 
and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. Using that 
microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built several SMT-based kits and find 
it quite easy with a microscope to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands 
are quite another thing… :-(

So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the only 
way to go.

Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[roney]

Luckily to have mine K1, bought this year.
I intended to buy another one by the end of this year.
Now I have to safely keep it as a jewel!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/roney/34754819981/
Great little rig...

73 de PY1ZB

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> Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250
> readers for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age
> eight. Bad eyes and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The
> readers are fine for reading (du) but when it comes to really small,
> close-up examination of stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago
> and purchased a fairly inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years
> ago I took the plunge and built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to
> some really small resistors and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64
> and 128 pin IC’s. Using that microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built
> several SMT-based kits and find it quite easy with a microscope to see what
> one is doing. Now, unstable hands are quite another thing… :-(
>
> So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the
> only way to go.
>
> Jim / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> >
> > Jim has a point here, of course.  I'm only 53, but my once
> > "aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do
> > close work like SMT...
> >
> > But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way  More magnification,
> > more light, hell...  I'll use robot hands if I need to.  I like building!
> >
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> >
> > On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> >> On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
> >>> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.
> >>
> >> As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand
> >> coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be
> >> 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough
> >> to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a
> >> band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components
> >> in that kit, and called in reinforcements.
> >>
> >> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[James Bennett]

Guys - I’m about to hit the magic “70” mark and have been using +250 readers 
for quite a while. I’ve also been a stamp collector since age eight. Bad eyes 
and stamp collectinig don’t go together very well! The readers are fine for 
reading (du) but when it comes to really small, close-up examination of 
stamps, I got out my checkbook several years ago and purchased a fairly 
inexpensive (~$350) stereo microscope. Couple years ago I took the plunge and 
built my first SMT-based QRP rig. In addition to some really small resistors 
and capacitors, it also had a couple of the 64 and 128 pin IC’s. Using that 
microscope made it a breeze. I’ve since built several SMT-based kits and find 
it quite easy with a microscope to see what one is doing. Now, unstable hands 
are quite another thing… :-(

So, if Elecraft ever starts offering SMT kits, one of this units is the only 
way to go.

Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA






> On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:50 AM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> Jim has a point here, of course.  I'm only 53, but my once
> "aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do
> close work like SMT...
> 
> But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way  More magnification,
> more light, hell...  I'll use robot hands if I need to.  I like building!
> 
> __
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> 
> On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
>>> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.
>> 
>> As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand
>> coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be
>> 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough
>> to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a
>> band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components
>> in that kit, and called in reinforcements.
>> 
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Walter Underwood]

They could call it the K1x, just to keep things confusing.

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> On Aug 31, 2017, at 10:47 AM, Clay Autery  wrote:
> 
> Now THAT is intriguing to me...
> 
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>> But how small would the K1 be if made with SMT's and a few toroids.  Ooohhh..
>> 
>> 73, Byron N6NUL
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Clay Autery]

Jim has a point here, of course.  I'm only 53, but my once
"aviator-quality" vision now requires quite a bit of augmentation to do
close work like SMT...

But I plan to fight it EVERY step of the way  More magnification,
more light, hell...  I'll use robot hands if I need to.  I like building!

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On 8/30/2017 11:00 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote:
>> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.
>
> As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand
> coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be
> 76 years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough
> to do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a
> band pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components
> in that kit, and called in reinforcements.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Clay Autery]

Now THAT is intriguing to me...

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> But how small would the K1 be if made with SMT's and a few toroids.  Ooohhh..
>
> 73, Byron N6NUL
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Don Wilhelm]

Joseph,

Contact sales about the KAT1.  I have had official information that 
options will be available until the current supplies run out.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2017 9:04 PM, Joseph M. Durnal wrote:


I'm going to try and finish it sooner than later.

Any chance that KAT1 is still available?


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS]

Agree Skip...
My son Jakub (15) is using his K1 mostly on receiving and learning CW and
what is funny > time to time he is able to hear DX sigs better then on my
K3... :) He is really proud to have his K1 because of that, hi.
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Jim Brown]

On 8/30/2017 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken wrote:

I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.


As you get older, you will. Eyes, steadiness of hand, eye-hand 
coordination, all can make working with SMT a challenge. Mine will be 76 
years old in a few months. Several years ago, I learned just enough to 
do relatively simple SMT work with fairly large SMT components in a band 
pass filter kit. I couldn't even SEE the smaller SMT components in that 
kit, and called in reinforcements.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Christopher Hoover]

i prefer smt to through hole for hand soldering.   through hole is a total
pain.   i generally do not use any hot air; just a fine tip metcal iron, a
*lot* of flux and sometimes a toothpick.0603  RCLs are a piece of cake.
 0402 RCLs take some care but are totally doable.73 de AI6KG


On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken  wrote:

> Byron Servies wrote
> > [...] and soldering surface mount components.
>
> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.  The
> import hot air soldering stations are relatively cheap and easy-to-use.
> And
> magnifiers are available -- even binocular microscopes start around $500
> for
> the heavy hitters.  (I had a good learning experience replacing some chips
> in my iPhone 6 Plus to fix the "touch screen disease.")
>
> I think that SMTs should propel solder kit building to a new level, not
> shut
> it down!  Just sayin'
>
> 73
>
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On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 7:30 PM, N4OI - Ken  wrote:
> Byron Servies wrote
>> [...] and soldering surface mount components.
>
> I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.

I actually use the toaster oven method described in QST a few years
ago.  Works great!

But how small would the K1 be if made with SMT's and a few toroids.  Ooohhh..

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[N4OI - Ken]

Byron Servies wrote
> [...] and soldering surface mount components.  

I do not understand the general fear of working with SMT components.  The
import hot air soldering stations are relatively cheap and easy-to-use.  And
magnifiers are available -- even binocular microscopes start around $500 for
the heavy hitters.  (I had a good learning experience replacing some chips
in my iPhone 6 Plus to fix the "touch screen disease.") 

I think that SMTs should propel solder kit building to a new level, not shut
it down!  Just sayin'

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[Byron Servies]

It is still on the price list:

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k1

73, Byron N6NUL

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Joseph M. Durnal
 wrote:
> This news is inspirational.  My half built K1, SN 2350 as been with another
> ham since 2008.  I retrieved it today.
>
> I had a problem on receive and had trouble figuring it out.  It turns out
> that I missed D5, but checked it off.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/v9aMm
>
> I'm going to try and finish it sooner than later.
>
> Any chance that KAT1 is still available?
>
> 73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it
>> because certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost
>> effective for us to manufacture.
>>
>> It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on
>> many trips. I thought of it as a “Sierra on Steroids” at the time
>> (referring to an earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we’ve
>> moved on to more versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft <
>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list
>> about the K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it
>> and don't find it in a search of the list.
>> >
>> > It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone
>> disappointed that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or
>> weekend and got the news.
>> >
>> > I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed
>> not worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for
>> the transceiver.
>> >
>> > Kevin Anderson
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

We still sell a number of K2s each month. Its the only full-solder SSB/CW 160-10 
kit available. And its still in the upper performance portion of the charts! :-)


Plus we also still sell the KPA100 100W top cover option kit for the K2.

We plan to keep the K2 rolling for as long as possible. (And it was our first 
design, so there is some emotional attachment here..)


73,
Eric
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On 8/30/2017 4:41 PM, Byron Servies wrote:

Hi all,

About a year after I was licensed in 2008 I was extremely unhappy with
how I was approaching the hobby. I sat there, looking at a pile of
expensive kit I had no understanding of and realized I was not
achieving my goals that pushed me to be licensed in the first place.
Those included building things, learning morse code, and developing a
better understanding.

So, I sold all the appliances and bought a K1 kit! It was a wonderful
build, and I really loved adjusting the VFO by adjusting wire spacing
on L1. So much fun! Of course, to use it I had to learn morse code, so
I did. I'm still not great, but that's just lack of practice.

I am disappointed that there have not been any new solder kits from
Elecraft and probably never will be again, though I understand the
economics, the problems with parts availability, and soldering surface
mount components.  Even so, it makes me sad.

Every time I use my K1 it makes me giddy with joy. Truly a wonderful
radio. Thank you so much for making it.

73, Byron N6NUL
K1 #2799


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Joseph M. Durnal]

This news is inspirational.  My half built K1, SN 2350 as been with another
ham since 2008.  I retrieved it today.

I had a problem on receive and had trouble figuring it out.  It turns out
that I missed D5, but checked it off.

https://imgur.com/a/v9aMm

I'm going to try and finish it sooner than later.

Any chance that KAT1 is still available?

73 de Joseph M. Durnal - NE3R


On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it
> because certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost
> effective for us to manufacture.
>
> It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on
> many trips. I thought of it as a “Sierra on Steroids” at the time
> (referring to an earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we’ve
> moved on to more versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> > On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list
> about the K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it
> and don't find it in a search of the list.
> >
> > It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone
> disappointed that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or
> weekend and got the news.
> >
> > I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed
> not worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for
> the transceiver.
> >
> > Kevin Anderson
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Byron Servies]

Hi all,

About a year after I was licensed in 2008 I was extremely unhappy with
how I was approaching the hobby. I sat there, looking at a pile of
expensive kit I had no understanding of and realized I was not
achieving my goals that pushed me to be licensed in the first place.
Those included building things, learning morse code, and developing a
better understanding.

So, I sold all the appliances and bought a K1 kit! It was a wonderful
build, and I really loved adjusting the VFO by adjusting wire spacing
on L1. So much fun! Of course, to use it I had to learn morse code, so
I did. I'm still not great, but that's just lack of practice.

I am disappointed that there have not been any new solder kits from
Elecraft and probably never will be again, though I understand the
economics, the problems with parts availability, and soldering surface
mount components.  Even so, it makes me sad.

Every time I use my K1 it makes me giddy with joy. Truly a wonderful
radio. Thank you so much for making it.

73, Byron N6NUL
K1 #2799

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it 
> because certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost 
> effective for us to manufacture.
>
> It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on many 
> trips. I thought of it as a “Sierra on Steroids” at the time (referring to an 
> earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we’ve moved on to more 
> versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about 
>> the K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it and 
>> don't find it in a search of the list.
>>
>> It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed 
>> that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and 
>> got the news.
>>
>> I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not 
>> worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the 
>> transceiver.
>>
>> Kevin Anderson
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Todd]

Up at Salmoncon this year I had a chance to play with just about every radio
Elecraft has come out with, with the exception of the K2.  I left my KX2 
sit in
the tent while I had a chance to take the K1 for a nice test drive one 
night while
sitting around in the pavilion.  Great little radio.  Wish I would have 
pulled the
trigger on it years ago!I see them quite often at different events 
for sale, usually

going for around $400 - $450

I'm sure I'll see one again this year at Pacificon - and maybe it'll 
find a place here... ;-)


Now that they're on the "endangered list", maybe that price is going 
up   :-(


Let me know Skip when you want to do Peavine (before the snow flies) and 
you can

test drive the KX2.

Later,
Todd KH2TJ



Fred Jensen wrote:
R.I.P. K1.  I never had one, but on a SOTA activation with Rich, NU6T, 
several years ago, we traded rigs for a bit and I got to run his K1.  
Really great little radio.  I was giving some consideration to selling 
my K2/10 and getting a KX2, but then I spent some time with the K2 on 
the air and 86'd that idea.  My K2 is likely to be part of my estate.




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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike and all,

Yes, both the K1 and the K2 have had an exceptionally long lifetime 
compared to other ham transceivers.  I received my Field Test K2 late 
1998, so my SN 0020 is 19 years old.
Even though the K1 (and KX1) have been discontinued, support will 
continue for as long as the replacement parts and knowledge base exists.


The K2 continues to be available, and Elecraft has taken some 'heroic' 
steps to provide quite usable substitutes for several parts that have 
disappeared because they are no longer manufactured.
How long that can continue is anyone's guess, but I can say that 
Elecraft is dedicated to continuing support for the K2 for as long as 
possible.


As an extension of that philosophy, I expect that those who have the K3 
will enjoy similar support for years to come.  Same for those who have 
purchased the K3S, KX3 and KX2 as well as other Elecraft products.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/30/2017 2:15 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:

I saw the K1 first at Dsyton 2000, just after it was announced.  I ordered one 
immediately, but delivery did not happen for almost six months.  It is one of 
my favorite electronic devices from the past 50 years.

It covered 15 meters, and consumed only about 60 mA on receive, with backlight.

Two years ago mine took a lightening strike through the DC input which killed a 
couple of regulators, some diodes, and a DA converter on the front panel board. 
 But tests show the MPU still functions and displays and responds to the keys.  
Perhaps I'll get around to fixing it someday.

Not many rigs (except the K2) have had a production and sales run of 17 years.  
It will be missed, but I don't know how it was kept in production that long.  I 
suspect it had a unit cost to Elecraft not significantly less than the KX2.

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Jim Allen]

I found a K1 listed a day or so ago on QRZ, the same day his gripe was sent 
out, with 4 bands, IIRC, and sent the listing to the QRP list.  Whether Purley 
or anyone else responded to it, I can't say, but if he wanted one, there it 
was. As of the writing, it appears to be still available.

73 Jim Allen W6OGC 

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Bert Craig]

I don't think I'll ever give up my 4-band K1. Sorry to see it discontinued, 
however, thanks for developing it in the first place. Kudo to Elecraft. 

Vy 73 de Bert 
WA2SI

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Fred Jensen]

R.I.P. K1.  I never had one, but on a SOTA activation with Rich, NU6T, 
several years ago, we traded rigs for a bit and I got to run his K1.  
Really great little radio.  I was giving some consideration to selling 
my K2/10 and getting a KX2, but then I spent some time with the K2 on 
the air and 86'd that idea.  My K2 is likely to be part of my estate.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/30/2017 1:37 PM, Al Scanandoah wrote:

I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier this 
year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a means to 
more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use, even without 
current technology.

KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds down 
the center spot in the shack.

Al, K2ZN


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Gerald Manthey]

Think I will post my K1 4 band and my two extra 2 Bandera for sale.

Gerald.

On Aug 30, 2017 3:39 PM, "Al Scanandoah"  wrote:

I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier
this year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a
means to more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use,
even without current technology.

KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds
down the center spot in the shack.

Al, K2ZN
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Al Scanandoah]

I sat on the fence for too long, and didn't acquire my K1 until earlier this 
year. I missed out on the 4 band module, but I at least came up with a means to 
more efficiently swap 2-band modules. It's a very fun rig to use, even without 
current technology.

KX2/KX3/KX(TBD) at some point? Perhaps, but my trusty old K2 still holds down 
the center spot in the shack.

Al, K2ZN
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Buck]

It was a favorite of mine as well.  Very capable radio that was fun to 
build and operate.  I am really sorry I sold it.  Maybe the skunk works 
at Elecraft can come up with a modern version.  (hint hint).


I know what you are going to say, "They already did.  It is called a KX2."

Buck, k4ia
Honor Roll
8BDXCC
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On 8/30/2017 11:58 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi Kevin,

We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it because 
certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost effective for 
us to manufacture.

It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on many 
trips. I thought of it as a “Sierra on Steroids” at the time (referring to an 
earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we’ve moved on to more 
versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft 
 wrote:

I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about the 
K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it and don't find 
it in a search of the list.

It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed that 
he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and got the 
news.

I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not 
worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the 
transceiver.

Kevin Anderson




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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Mike Morrow]

I saw the K1 first at Dsyton 2000, just after it was announced.  I ordered one 
immediately, but delivery did not happen for almost six months.  It is one of 
my favorite electronic devices from the past 50 years.

It covered 15 meters, and consumed only about 60 mA on receive, with backlight.

Two years ago mine took a lightening strike through the DC input which killed a 
couple of regulators, some diodes, and a DA converter on the front panel board. 
 But tests show the MPU still functions and displays and responds to the keys.  
Perhaps I'll get around to fixing it someday.

Not many rigs (except the K2) have had a production and sales run of 17 years.  
It will be missed, but I don't know how it was kept in production that long.  I 
suspect it had a unit cost to Elecraft not significantly less than the KX2.

Mike / KK5F
K1 serial 175

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>From: N4OI - Ken 
>Sent: Aug 30, 2017 11:36 AM
>
> I guess my kids or XYL will dig it out and put it on the market with the
> rest of my stuff one day...  But man, until then, what a great QRP rig!!
> 4-band K1 with ATU...  a real, take-anywhere radio!!
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[N4OI - Ken]

I guess my kids or XYL will dig it out and put it on the market with the rest
of my stuff one day...  But man, until then, what a great QRP rig!!   4-band
K1 with ATU...  a real, take-anywhere radio!!

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Raymond Sills]

Well, certainly, the handwriting was on the wall when you could no longer 
purchase a 4-band K1.  That said, I feel bad for Perley, who was saving up to 
get one.  At this point, I suspect he will have to go in a different direction, 
if he wants a rig to construct himself.  He's pretty much said that he is on a 
very tight budget, so even saving up for a KX2 might be out of the question.  
And, it appears that not too many K1 owners are anxious to put their units on 
the second-hand market, either because they plan to keep them "forever"... or 
because at a reasonable "price realized" from a sale is low enough that they 
will just keep it.  :)


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211






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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Kevin,

We should have made a formal announcement here. Yes, we discontinued it because 
certain parts are hard to come by now, making it no longer cost effective for 
us to manufacture.

It was a great product for us, and I used mine for years, taking it on many 
trips. I thought of it as a “Sierra on Steroids” at the time (referring to an 
earlier design I did for the NorCal QRP Club). But we’ve moved on to more 
versatile field radios, including the KX2 and KX3.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:36 AM, Kevin Anderson via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about 
> the K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it and don't 
> find it in a search of the list.
> 
> It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed 
> that he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and 
> got the news.
> 
> I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not 
> worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the 
> transceiver.
> 
> Kevin Anderson



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[Elecraft] K1 Discontinued

[Kevin Anderson via Elecraft]

I am a little surprised that no mention was made on this e-mail list about the 
K1 being just recently discontinued.  Or if it had, I missed it and don't find 
it in a search of the list.

It is being discussed over the QRP-L list, started by someone disappointed that 
he just finally had tried to order a K1 this past week or weekend and got the 
news.

I presume that some key part has become unavailable, or has parts deemed not 
worth restocking any longer due to significant decline in demand for the 
transceiver.

Kevin Anderson

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