Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Hank Blackwood via Elecraft]

I’m also interested in purchasing one. 

Hank
K4HYJ 

> On Jul 18, 2024, at 10:45 AM, Walter Crauwels ON4BCB  wrote:
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> Any Idea when the K3/0 mini is back available ? i heard there will be a new
> batch with preorder
> 
> any info on that ?
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Walter Crauwels ON4BCB]

Any Idea when the K3/0 mini is back available ? i heard there will be a new
batch with preorder

any info on that ?
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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini

[Walter Crauwels ON4BCB]

Any news on preorder and price for the new batch  K3/0 mini   ?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3.?

[Ed W0YK]

No.73,Ed W0YK
 Original message From: Josep via Elecraft 
 Date: 1/11/24  07:06  (GMT-08:00) To: Elecraft 
Reflector  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3.? 
Howdy.!Is there a possibility to connect a P3 to a K3/0 Mini..?Thanks.73, 
JosepEA6BFBUG #256  -  CWOps #3072  -  FOC #2182 (ex 1724)  -  
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3.?

[Josep via Elecraft]

Howdy.!
Is there a possibility to connect a P3 to a K3/0 Mini..?
Thanks.


73, 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini or equivalent for HF-mobile use

[Chester Latawiec]

I have a K3/0 (not mini) for sale.  $750 shipped.
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini or equivalent for HF-mobile use

Hi , I hope this is the right group to ask



I would like to use  a K3S for my HF mobile (CW) operation positioned in the
trunk of the car.

1.  Is it possible controlling it only with one shielded control cable
to a K3/0-min (light weight), installed near the dashboard?
2.  If so , were can I find such a K3/0-mini used ? Price?



Tnx, Cu, vy 73 de Andy

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[Elecraft] K3/0-mini or equivalent for HF-mobile use

[Andy via Elecraft]

Hi , I hope this is the right group to ask 

 

I would like to use  a K3S for my HF mobile (CW) operation positioned in the
trunk of the car. 

1.  Is it possible controlling it only with one shielded control cable
to a K3/0-min (light weight), installed near the dashboard?
2.  If so , were can I find such a K3/0-mini used ? Price?

 

Tnx, Cu, vy 73 de Andy

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

The K3/0 Mini is sold.  Thanks for your interest.

73

Gerry W1VE

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, 11:58 AM Gerry Hull  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have a spare K3/0 mini I which is surplus to my needs.  It is
> the original K3/0 Mini, serial number 8152.
>
> I will also include an Elecraft octopus cable which may need some TLC.
> The K3/0 mini is in perfect condition (photo upon request.)
>
> First $450 to Venmo or Zelle takes it.
> Free USPS Priority shipping in the US.
>
> 73,
>
> Gerry W1VE
> Hancock, NH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini and FT8/Q65 / Remoterig

[Scott Townley]

I didn't find a simple way.

Assuming you have the remoterig set up for SSB/voice, what I did was to 
route the soundcard TX audio to the mic input on the radio RR.  To do 
that I used an old Rigblaster, which allowed me to easily switch the AF 
input to the RR between mic and soundcard. There are many ways to do 
this cheaper but I had the Rigblaster gathering dust.


As to RX audio, I used the SPKR output on the side of the K3/0-mini.  
That means switching between soundcard RX audio and a speaker/headset 
for human RX.  Or you could come up with a similar switching arrangement 
as with TX audio.



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Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:30:26 +0100
From: Viggo Magnus Nilsen 
To: Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini and FT8/Q65 / Remoterig
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Hello K3 owners.

My Remote setup is K3 connected to the Remoterig box at the QTH site, at
home operating it with K3/0-mini.,

I prefer CW, but from time to time  want to try some Digimodes.

WHAT TO I HAVE TO DO FOR THAT MODE WITH K3/0-MINI / REMOTERIG.?

Com port 1 and 2 at the Radio RRC is connected to the K3 ,and KPA500.

At the QTH K3 working very well with the connections Line in/Line out to
the PC in Q65 mode on EME.

73' Viggo LA9NEA

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[Elecraft] K3/0-mini and FT8/Q65 / Remoterig

[Viggo Magnus Nilsen]

Hello K3 owners. 

My Remote setup is K3 connected to the Remoterig box at the QTH site, at
home operating it with K3/0-mini., 

I prefer CW, but from time to time  want to try some Digimodes. 

WHAT TO I HAVE TO DO FOR THAT MODE WITH K3/0-MINI / REMOTERIG.? 

Com port 1 and 2 at the Radio RRC is connected to the K3 ,and KPA500. 

At the QTH K3 working very well with the connections Line in/Line out to
the PC in Q65 mode on EME. 

73' Viggo LA9NEA
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[marvwheeler]

Hello:

 

I am looking for a K3/0 Mini. Does anyone have one that is available?

 

You can contact me off-line.

 

Thanks

Marv - KG7V

The standard ARRL email address

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini, XV432, RemoteRig and more for Sale

[Mike Lewis]

Updated previous list and added other items, making room in the new shack.

For sale now:

DEMI 902/3 Xvtr, 10W 144 IF.  $275.
DEMI 1296 Xvtr, 3W, 144 IF. $275.
All Xvtrs above are modified to use a DigiLo PLL via a SMA but can be easily 
flipped back to the crystal if desired.  

Elecraft K3/0-Mini-F remote control head.  $700.

Adding These:
Tektronix 475A  Oscope - $200 

Make offer on these! - The heavy items I am not likely to ship.
TS-930S  HF rig, 100W
TS-700A  All mode 2M rig, 10W
2.5KW water cooled Bird dummy load
50uA Bird wattmeter in steel case (regular Bird 43 is 30uA and smaller meter 
face).  Maybe works with dummy load
60Mhz network analyzer, connects to PC
Sola Basic RF wattmeter - White metal case, clone of a Bird 43, uses same slugs.
Tektronix 1401 Spectrum analyzer Module.  12V operation, uses an oscope for 
display.


Mike
K7MDL  CN88sf

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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini, XV432, RemoteRig and more for Sale

[Mike Lewis]

Moved out of 2nd home with full VHF+ station so no longer need remote access 
and redundant transverters, radios, and amps.  

For sale now:

1. XV432 refitted with a quiet Noctua fan and xtal oven option for $375.
2. DEMI 902/3 Xvtr, 10W 144 IF.  $275.
3. DEMI 1296 Xvtr, 3W, 144 IF. $275.
All Xvtrs above are modified to use a DigiLo PLL via a SMA but can be easily 
flipped back to the crystal if desired.  

4. K7MDL design Multiband LO box.  Band Decode input to select 1 of 6 LO slots. 
 Each slot has programmable DigiLo frequency and programmable step attenuated 
level covering +22dBm to -28dBm I think.  Internal 12-24V DC-DC converter for 
powering a remote coax switch.  Band decode output for ant switch or 
transverter/amp selection.  LCD with encoder for config menu system. 10MHz 
OCXO, can use external 10M or internal DigiLO clock. Also has GPS serial input 
for Grid square and time readout. $250

5. RemoteRig RRC-1258 MkIIs V7 radio Unit #1 with K3 cable set (Dual RX) $250
6. RemoteRig RRC-1258 MkIIs V7 radio Unit #2 with K3 cable set (Dual RX) $250
7. RemoteRig RRC-1258 MkIIs V7 Control Unit (Dual RX) with WiFi option and K3/0 
Mini cable set. $300
8. Elecraft K3/0-Mini-F remote control head.  $700.

- Mike
K7MDL

Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini N1MM+ not sending CW from function keys

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

hello I still have the problem that N1MM+ is not sending CW from function
keys. I tried on a second computer and happen de same, so seems the problem
is not in the PC

Anyone with the same setup that can help me with that?

thanks in advance!

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

El jue, 23 jun 2022 a las 9:35, Jorge Diez - CX6VM ()
escribió:

> Hello
>
> I have a remote connection, K3/100, K3/0 mini connected with remoterig
> boxes
>
> It was working perfectly. I needed to format the control laptop. Installed
> Windows 10 again and all software.
>
> I can do SSB and digital, also I can send CW with paddles, BUT I cannot
> send CW with N1MM+ function keys
>
> RRC1258 Com0 (Com3)
>
> In N1MM+/config  COM3 is  configured  "CW/Other", and set "DTR to CW".
>
> the RR Control unit.  Under IO settings, "USB DTR as CW" to be "COM0"
>
> in the K3 CONFIG, PTT KEY = OFF OFF
>
> I think this settings are correct, but N1MM+`s function keys are not
> sending CW to the radio
>
> any idea what to check?
>
> thanks!
>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>


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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini N1MM+ not sending CW from function keys

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello

I have a remote connection, K3/100, K3/0 mini connected with remoterig boxes

It was working perfectly. I needed to format the control laptop. Installed
Windows 10 again and all software.

I can do SSB and digital, also I can send CW with paddles, BUT I cannot
send CW with N1MM+ function keys

RRC1258 Com0 (Com3)

In N1MM+/config  COM3 is  configured  "CW/Other", and set "DTR to CW".

the RR Control unit.  Under IO settings, "USB DTR as CW" to be "COM0"

in the K3 CONFIG, PTT KEY = OFF OFF

I think this settings are correct, but N1MM+`s function keys are not
sending CW to the radio

any idea what to check?

thanks!

-- 
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Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Jorge:

> On Jun 9, 2022, at 9:02 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
> running perfectly with remoterig boxes
> 
> How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?
> 
> Couldn't find the connections for that in Google

Remoterig does not support the P3/SVGA nor does Elecraft offer a remote option 
for the P3.I have the K3/0-Mini along with the K3-KPA-500-KAT500-P3 at my 
ham shack in southeast Georgia.  

I’m aware of two options for ’seeing’ the P3 remotely:

1. Install a video capture board in the ham shack computer and camera aimed at 
the P3 and then view the P3 by accessing the ham shack computer to see the 
video.  However, I’m not aware of any currently available video capture boards 
per se.  You’d have to search to see if these are still available.  This 
approach has been discussed in the past on this reflector, but it has been 
awhile since anyone has posted anything about it.

2. Use the IF output from the back of the P3 and connect a SDR receiver (such 
as SDRPlay devices), install the appropriate SDR software on the ham shack 
computer, and install OmniRig to have the software track the frequency of the 
K3/100. I have done this with SDRPlay's SDRduo running their SDRuno software 
that has the ‘hooks’ for OmniRig.  It is then possible to view a spectrum 
display running available through the SDRuno  that will replicate what the P3 
can show directly.   When I turn on the RX ANT on the K3/0-Mini, it allows 
OmniRig to interface between the K3 and the SDRuno software and subsequently as 
I change frequencies/bands on the K3, the SDRuno software follows along.  I can 
also set the frequency of the K3 by specifying the frequency within SDRuno 
software.

While I’ve done this with SDRPlay hardware and software (I already had the 
SDRduo in my shack before trying this), presumably the same thing can be done 
with “SDR dongles” such as NooElec using other SDR programs such as SDR Sharp, 
SDR Console, etc.  However, I don’t know if these packages provide the OmniRig 
interface to ensure that the spectrum display is controlled by the K3.  SDRPlay 
also offers single tuner SDR devices (SDRduo is a dual-tuner) such as the RSP1A 
and RSPdx. See: www.sdrplay.com .

Bottom line is that the “work around” is to have a PC in the shack that can 
utilize a SDR device (connected via USB) with an IF input coming from the P3 
that can subsequently be controlled by the K3 to show a spectrum display.  This 
means you’ll also have to connect to the PC in the shack through remote 
software such as VNC Viewer (from RealVNC.com ) or another 
package such as TeamViewer.  The SDRplay website does have generic 
documentation and videos on how to connect HF transceivers to their SDRs and 
how to configure SDRuno so that the SDR can provide a spectrum display (As I 
recall, they use the Kenwood 570G as their example).  See: 
https://www.sdrplay.com/apps-catalogue/ 
.




Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW/1
(Currently in Roslindale, MA)



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> thanks!
> 
> -- 
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> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

[Julia Tuttle]

I'm not sure that's possible. RemoteRig relays serial control traffic and
audio input and output, but panadapters require a separate, broader band
signal (IF for the P3, AF for the PX3) from the rig.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, 09:03 Jorge Diez - CX6VM  wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
> running perfectly with remoterig boxes
>
> How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?
>
> Couldn't find the connections for that in Google
>
> thanks!
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and P3

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello

I have a K3/100 on the radio site and a K3/0 Mini on the control site,
running perfectly with remoterig boxes

How can I add the P3 SVGA to the control site?

Couldn't find the connections for that in Google

thanks!

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[Elecraft] WTB. Elecraft K3/0-Mini

[Richard Cutter]

Looking for a K3/0-Mini….   Tnx Rick WA3MKT




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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini message memories

[David Windisch]

Hi, all concerned:
How do I store cw messages in the MESSAGE memories of the local K3/0 mini so
they get sent to the remotely-located K3?
Brgds,
Dave, N3HE



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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Ed G]

Hello,
 Will the K3/0 Mini remote control work with the K4?  I suspect not but 
thought I would ask.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:19 AM David Bondy  wrote:
>
> I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
> resolved.
>
> If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by 
> a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?
>
> My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position 
> and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have 
> to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.
>
> Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?

This used to work, back in the K3/0 non-mini days. You'd connect the
two using a null-modem cable, and invoke "terminal mode" with a long
press (~5 seconds) of the MENU button. The manual for the "mini" is a
bit vague, but it looks like its connection to the RRC box is TTL, not
RS232, so to connect that to a K3 directly might require a level
converter interface.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

David:

> On Aug 19, 2020, at 2:17 PM, David Bondy  wrote:
> 
> I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
> resolved.
> 
> If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by 
> a cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?

The issue is how to get all of the connections from the K3/0-Mini to the K3.  
The “Elecraft K3-Remote Owner’s Manual” (Revision D, April 3, 2014) discusses 
two methods of installing the K3-Remote variants:

1. Via the RemoteRig 1258MKII approach that connects to your personal K3 at the 
ham shack and a second RemoteRig to the K3-Remote.  This is what I’ve done.

2.  Using the K3-Remote via a PC through a USB connection.  This is meant to 
provide access to on-line remote Ham rig services such as “Remote Hams’.  I 
have no idea what interface(s) are installed at these sites to their K3s.  

> 
> My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position 
> and the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have 
> to use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.

I don’t know whether the two Remote Rigs would work directly connected through 
a reverse cable, you’d probably have to connect both to a LAN where both 
devices would be assigned a local IP address (either static or dynamic).  

FWIW,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
(Currently in Boston/Roslindale, MA)


> 
> Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?
> 
> Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini - Local Connection

[David Bondy]

I read some discussion on this a while ago but could not find if it was ever 
resolved.

If I wanted to connect my K3/0 Mini locally to my K3, can it be done just by a 
cable (or cables) without having to use a pair of RemoteRig 1258MKIIs?

My K3 is in a rack a little distance away from my ideal operating position and 
the K3/0 Mini sits nicely on my desk but it seems a bit of a faff to have to 
use the two RR boxes connected via an ethernet cable.

Anyone know whether there was ever a plan for a ‘local’ remote connection?

Thanks. David G4NRT / Z21NRT
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini For Sale

[Steve Dyer W1SRD via Elecraft]

Elecraft K3/0 Mini in excellent condition.

Includes cable E980263from RRMINICBL to connect to the Remote Rig RRC-1258.

No longer available from Elecraft.

$500 shipped in original box.

73,
Steve
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and Win4K3 -- digital remote operation

[Darryl Hazelgren]

I am posting this message on the Remoterig forum as well as sending it to 
Elecraft (and anywhere else I can think of) to try to make some headway. 

In short: I wish to operate digital modes from my control station to my remote 
station using K3 Twin mode of Remoterig setup (K3/0 Mini and K3 100). Have been 
using the setup for eight years using CW and SSB. Want to add Win4K3 to the 
control side. Want to (continue to) run N1MM+, DXLab Suite and add WSJT 
software on the control side.

Can this be done?

I also so have a Rigblaster that I can add to the mix. Do I need that or any 
other hardware or software?

Below is an email sent to Tom at Win4K3 along with his response.



 Original message 
From: Darryl Hazelgren 
Date: 2020-07-15 1:07 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
To: supp...@va2fsq.com
Subject: Help with K3/0 remote setup

Good morning Tom.

I have been successfully running a remote station using an Elecraft K3 at the 
remote site and Elecraft K3/0, K3/0 Mini and K3 100 rigs at the control site in 
my condo, which is about 15 miles away from the remote site, for about eight 
years. I am using Remoterig RRC 1258 MkII boxes in the twin mode. Software is 
current.

I run a KPA1500 which I control with the KPA1500 remote software. All antenna 
switching and rotating of Yagis is done with Green Heron and Array Solutions 
hardware and software.

I am a DXer and Contester (Phone and CW) using N1MM+ and DXLab Suites.

Now I want to start with the digital modes.

The computers on both sides are Windows 10 with latest updates. I downloaded 
the latest Com0Com software and created three pairs for use with N1MM+, DXLab 
and WSJT.

I downloaded the current Win4K3 app and began the setup. I am unable to advance 
beyond the Settings screen as I cannot get the K3/0 Mini drop down to connect. 
I have tried the virtual Com ports created by the Remoterig install app. I have 
connected to the USB port on the K3/0 Mini and verified that I have the latest 
version of software in the K3/0 Mini and noted the two ports the Mini uses. I 
have tried to connect via those. No joy.

The last two pages of the instruct me to: "Save the settings and then from the 
Tools menu on the radio control screen pick "Enable K3 / 0”. I cannot get to 
the next screen to access the Tools menu.

What am I missing?

I have friends using Win4K3 and they love it. I’m looking forward to joining 
them...

Answer from Tom, VA2FSQ:

Hi
I do not have a remote rig so I am not sure how this works.
However, before you can go to the other connections, you must have win4k3 
working and connected. Win4k3 uses pretty well all k3 commands including some 
undocumented ones for the k30 and I cannot say for sure of this will work with 
remote rig. I will say, you cannot connect to the radio with any virtual ports 
unless it is properly managed by remote rig. All other connections have to be 
through win4k3.
73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Barry Baines via Elecraft]

Mike:

> On Dec 24, 2019, at 12:22 AM, Michael C. Marx  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, 
> KAT500 and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while 
> installing the remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I 
> need to disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 
> line so the remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the 
> station. Am I missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my 
> station everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on 
> hooking this all up without disabling my station every time I want togo 
> remote.  Any help is sure appreciated

I know that others have responded to your query, but allow me to make some 
additional points.

1.  I presume that you purchased the remoterig from Elecraft and that you have 
the RemoteRig cables from Elecraft to connect the remoterig not only to the 
K3/0-mini but the remote rig to the K3.  These cables provide the critical 
interconnects needed for the K3/0-mini to function properly.  The K3/0-mini 
manual does a nice job of explaining how to make the proper connections.

2.  I use a y-adapter to connect the remoterig PTT cable to the PTT port of the 
K3 so that the PTT switch I use at the K3 will still function.  There is no 
problem having both PTTs connected at the same time.  This will allow the K3 go 
to into transmit by command of the remoterig or by the handswitch at the shack.

3.  I use a stereo y-adapter to connect the Remoterig Audio cable to the 
Speaker port of the K3 so that audio will be fed to both outputs.  This setup 
does cause my external speakers at the station to change volume when remote 
operating as it also provides audio to the Remoterig. In other words, the AF 
volume on the K3/0-mini will control both audio outputs.  Since I’m not at the 
station when operating remote and no one is around, having the speakers active 
doesn’t bother anyone.  If the K3 is located where audio might bother others, 
then either turn off the speakers (if they’re powered) or install a cutoff 
switch/unplug the speaker(s).  

4.  Keep in mind that the K3/0-mini controls what the K3 is doing as the 
K3/0-mini front panel is duplicating what the K3 is showing on its panel. That 
is, as you increase audio on the K3, it is also potentially increasing audio of 
speakers at the shack. If you set a parameter on the K3/0-mini, it is 
displaying what the K3 front panel is showing as that adjustment is made.  One 
area to note is how microphone management is done.  The Remoterig uses the rear 
mic connector of the K3.  Thus, on the K3/0-mini, you must use the K3 Menu to 
set the mic source to the rear connector.  If the mic connected to the 
K3/0-mini needs bias, you set that through the remoterig configuration.   In 
other words, mic selection through the K3 menu has nothing to do with the mic 
input of the K3/0-mini itself; rather it determines the mic input used by the 
K3 itself.  Both the 8-pin connector on the front panel of the K3/0-mini and 
the side Mic connector are active.  Thus, mic selection using the K3/0-mini 
does determine whether the mic input is from the Remoterig (rear mic) or from 
the K3 itself (front mic).  

5. Management of the KAT500 and KPA500 can be done several different ways.  
Clearly, basic operation of both units will work the same as before if the 
appropriate cable connections are installed as described in the Elecraft 
manuals.  One can use a remote connection to a PC in the shack and use the 
Elecraft utilities.  I prefer to manage the KPA500 with the Remoterig RC-1216H 
which provides a web-based display of the KPA500 front panel and is connected 
to the amplifier through a RS-232 connection.  This allows me to manage the 
amplifier with any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.   I have port forwarding set up at 
the station so that I can access the RC-1216H directly.  As the RS-232 
connection is attached to the RC-1216H, I cannot use the KPA500 utility from 
the shack computer. However, I don’t see that as a problem.  

The KAT500 can be managed using the PC in the shack and then remotely 
connecting to the shack computer to manage the KAT500 running on the shack 
computer.   I manage the KAT500 one of two ways.  I’ve installed a 
serial-to-ethernet converter (Lantronics) which allows me to directly connect 
to the KAT500 remotely and run the KAT500 utility on the PC where I am.  Or, I 
can have the PC in the shack connect to that same serial-to-ethernet converter 
and run the KAT500 software on that machine.  In this instance, I use VNC 
Connect to access the shack computer using any PC, Mac, iOS device, etc.  
Sidenote: If I didn’t have the RC-1216H, I’d probably be managing the KPA500 
the same way.  

6.  Lastly, please keep in mind that if you’re intending to remotely operate 
from a significant distance from the shack, it is imperative that you test 
e

Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Jim Rhodes]

That's why I got mine from Elecraft.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:05 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> All 15 pin Y cables are not the same.  You need to have all 15 pins
> connected from end to end.  VGA cables will NOT work.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 12/24/2019 9:22 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
> > The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
> > mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all
> the
> > time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they
> were
> > available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA
> jacks
> > for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
> > for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
> > to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new
> one
> > with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB
> cables
> > connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
> > live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for
> the
> > time being.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Don Wilhelm]

All 15 pin Y cables are not the same.  You need to have all 15 pins 
connected from end to end.  VGA cables will NOT work.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/24/2019 9:22 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:

The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all the
time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they were
available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA jacks
for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new one
with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB cables
connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for the
time being.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Jim Rhodes]

The ACC cable can be connected through a simple Y cable (I think I bought
mine from Elecraft) so that the remoterig box can be left connected all the
time. Or you can buy a YBox, or build your own like I did before they were
available.  As for the PTT, I put together a box with 6 parallel RCA jacks
for PTT on one side and 6 more on the other side for KEYOUT. (I have amps
for the 2 meter and 70 cm transverters.) The only other connection I need
to worry about is the serial cable. I updated the i/o boards to the new one
with the USB connection so that I can leave both the serial and USB cables
connected at all times. So no cable switching when I want to go remote. I
live in an apartment building, so my KPA500 is packed away in a box for the
time being.

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 07:03  wrote:

> Hi Mike. I sold my K0 setup a few months ago. It worked perfectly for
> years, but wanted to bring my K3 with me for the winter so I replaced it
> with a remote IC-7300. While up there for the summer I used to switch to
> remote mode when I went to the shore for the weekend, if I remember right
> there were three connections to  change. The PTT from foot switch to the
> remoterig box, the audio from local speaker to remoterig box, and the
> serial connection to local PC to the remoterig box. This took about a
> minute to switch over. I f I wanted to use the AMP and tuner I had to leave
> a local PC on running TeamViewer.
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of Michael C. Marx
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:22 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini
>
> Hi all
>
> So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3,
> KAT500 and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while
> installing the remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like
> I need to disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232
> line so the remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of
> the station. Am I missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half
> of my station everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers
> on hooking this all up without disabling my station every time I want togo
> remote.  Any help is sure appreciated
>
> 73 Mike WB0SND
>
>
> Michael Marx
> www.vacuumtubes.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[kb2mjeff]

Hi Mike. I sold my K0 setup a few months ago. It worked perfectly for years, 
but wanted to bring my K3 with me for the winter so I replaced it with a remote 
IC-7300. While up there for the summer I used to switch to remote mode when I 
went to the shore for the weekend, if I remember right there were three 
connections to  change. The PTT from foot switch to the remoterig box, the 
audio from local speaker to remoterig box, and the serial connection to local 
PC to the remoterig box. This took about a minute to switch over. I f I wanted 
to use the AMP and tuner I had to leave a local PC on running TeamViewer. 

73 Jeff kb2m 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of Michael C. Marx
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

Hi all

So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, KAT500 
and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while installing the 
remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I need to 
disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 line so the 
remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the station. Am I 
missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my station 
everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on hooking this all 
up without disabling my station every time I want togo remote.  Any help is 
sure appreciated

73 Mike WB0SND 


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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Michael C. Marx]

Hi all

So I have a K3/0 Mini with the remoterig setup. My station is a K3, P3, KAT500 
and KPA500.  I want to be able to keep it all hooked up while installing the 
remoterig system.  Is it possible to do this?  It looks like I need to 
disconnect the ACC CABLE going to the KPA500 along with the RS232 line so the 
remoterig can be used.  That pretty much disables the rest of the station. Am I 
missing something?   I sure don’t want to disconnect half of my station 
everytime I want to use remote.  I’d sure like any pointers on hooking this all 
up without disabling my station every time I want togo remote.  Any help is 
sure appreciated

73 Mike WB0SND 


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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Michael Marx]

Hey all, I am on the hunt for a K3/0 Mini.  If anyone has one they'd like to 
sell, let me know.  Best is email to sndtu...@vacuumtubes.com

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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini + cables for sale

[Oliver Dröse]

I have a K3/0-MINI-F ($699,95 new) plus cable sets RRMINICBL ($59,95 
new) and RRMTCBL ($59,95 new) which are surplus to my needs (I had 
planned to install a second K3 remote station but will probably not do 
anytime soon due to other priorities). All in perfect condition.


Selling the package for 580 EUR - free shipping (insured) within central 
Europe included (elsewhere to be discussed first).


Contact me directly if interested.

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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and external K-pod control panel

[Ron Genovesi]

I have for sale a new/unused in box K3/0 mini $550 plus shipping and a  
new/unused K-pod Control panel $175 plus shipping. 
 Shipping on both items will be actual cost of shipping. no more. Both items 
are unconditionally guaranteed. If your not completely satisfied cost, plus 
shipping will be refunded.
Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and remoterig integration

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Well

now I know, that in 2013, Microbit made a PCB which fitted into the K3/0
mini with all included, even Wifi,

Would me good if Elecraft take again this and now do something about it

PCB is working, Microbit CEO use it

73,
Jorge
CX6VM/CW5W

El sáb., 9 feb. 2019 a las 10:55, Jorge Diez - CX6VM ()
escribió:

> I did my first travel with my remote setuo (K3/100 and remoterig) and i
> was thinking to minimize the cabling and size of the setup.
>
> A lot of gear and cabling to do, so went to my mind, the idea of a K3/0
> Mini with a kind of remoterig INSIDE and most of the cabling already made
>
> So K3/0 Mini cable set, will be already connected inside
>
> Paddle integrated on the "new" K3/0 Mini
>
> You will control CW speed with K3, so no need of remoterig CW pot
>
> Mic integrated on the "new" K3/0 mini, a telescoping boom to reach your
> face
>
> Just need to connect a pair of USB cables to the laptop and is ready!
>
> Of course this will need some work togheter from Elecraft and Microbit,
> but would be very good to have this simplified for the user
>
>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
>
> 
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and remoterig integration

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

I did my first travel with my remote setuo (K3/100 and remoterig) and i was
thinking to minimize the cabling and size of the setup.

A lot of gear and cabling to do, so went to my mind, the idea of a K3/0
Mini with a kind of remoterig INSIDE and most of the cabling already made

So K3/0 Mini cable set, will be already connected inside

Paddle integrated on the "new" K3/0 Mini

You will control CW speed with K3, so no need of remoterig CW pot

Mic integrated on the "new" K3/0 mini, a telescoping boom to reach your face

Just need to connect a pair of USB cables to the laptop and is ready!

Of course this will need some work togheter from Elecraft and Microbit, but
would be very good to have this simplified for the user


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CX6VM/CW5W


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-mini disassembly

[Nr4c]

If there is an Assembly Manual look into it for assistance. If not, maybe some 
help in the operators manual?. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 19, 2019, at 10:05 AM, Scott Townley  wrote:
> 
> I have a K3/0-mini that I removed the rear bail from.  Basically I unscrewed 
> the four screws, cracked open the case just a bit, and shook all the internal 
> hardware (nuts/washers) out, and buttoned it back up.
> Now I want to put the bail back on.  I've gotten the case fully opened up 
> (two halves), but I'm having a challenge with the PCB that's attached to the 
> rear half.  It appears those four black "nubs" that you can see on the back 
> are some sort of nylon standoff that's being used for stiffening the PCB.  
> But it's not obvious to me how to remove them or otherwise disengage them.  
> Of course I'd prefer to do this without destroying them and leaving four 
> holes in the back.
> Any suggestions?
> TIA,
> Scott NX7U
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[Elecraft] K3/0-mini disassembly

[Scott Townley]

I have a K3/0-mini that I removed the rear bail from.  Basically I 
unscrewed the four screws, cracked open the case just a bit, and shook 
all the internal hardware (nuts/washers) out, and buttoned it back up.
Now I want to put the bail back on.  I've gotten the case fully opened 
up (two halves), but I'm having a challenge with the PCB that's attached 
to the rear half.  It appears those four black "nubs" that you can see 
on the back are some sort of nylon standoff that's being used for 
stiffening the PCB.  But it's not obvious to me how to remove them or 
otherwise disengage them.  Of course I'd prefer to do this without 
destroying them and leaving four holes in the back.

Any suggestions?
TIA,
Scott NX7U

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[Elecraft] K3-0 mini microcode?

[David F. Reed]

A few questions about the k3-0 mini microcode...

1. Does the K3-0 use the same microcode as the K3?
2. are we supposed to keep it in sync with microcode releases?
3. Do the K3-0 and the K3 need to be running the same release?

Thanks & 73 de Dave, W5SV


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[Elecraft] SOLD: Elecraft K3/0-Mini remote control front panel

[K6UFO Mark Aaker]

SOLD Thanks.
 Mark K6UFO 
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[Elecraft] For Sale: Elecraft K3/0-Mini remote control front panel

[K6UFO Mark Aaker]

For sale Elecraft K3/0-Mini remote control panel, as used with 
remotehams or remoterig equipment. Read more at Elecraft 
http://elecraft.com/products/k3-remote-k3-0-and-remoterig-set 
I'll include a 12 power supply, USB cable, and Owner's Manual. 
No other cables, but are available from Elecraft. Purchased new 
in  2014, serial number 0141, and never a problem. Used with 
remoterig equipment already sold. New are $675 plus tax and 
shipping. I'll ship to you in USA by USPS Priority Mail for 
$450. Paypal or cashier's check or email me. Thanks! Mark 
k6ufo k6ufo at arrl dot net (408) 857-4329
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[Mark Gebhardt]

I also use this same amp with my KX3 using an old surround sound speaker (2
speakers in one box) and it works great. I needed more volume for Field Day
and JOTA when there is a crowd trying to listen to the activity.

Mark
K9ZQ



I use this external audio amp with my KX3 to drive speakers. It is just a
few
components wrapped around a standard audio amp chip. Stereo, 15 W per
channel, volume control, runs on 9-18 V, costs $9.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/ <
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/>

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[David Windisch]

All concerned:

Tks for the early helps, OMs.

At least one suggestion  rcvd off-reflector is useful: adjust the AFG at the
remote-site end.

All problems , once solved, are simple.

Brgds & tks to all concerned from Dave, N3HE.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[Walter Underwood]

I use this external audio amp with my KX3 to drive speakers. It is just a few
components wrapped around a standard audio amp chip. Stereo, 15 W per
channel, volume control, runs on 9-18 V, costs $9.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C4MT274/ 


wunder
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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 7:38 AM, David Windisch  wrote:
> 
> All concerned:
> 
> I've searched the archives to no avail for the solution to this challenge.
> If there were refs, I missed 'em.
> 
> The Heil, CM500 etc., etc., cans I've tried out, on the K3/0 mini front and
> side audio outputs, simply do not put enough sound pressure on my TOEs
> (tired old ears).
> The K3S, however, _does_ put enough sound pressure on my TOEs, with _all_
> the can/mic sets I have, especially with the WWII hi-z antique sets.
> 
> Has anyone out there in radioland found:
> 1. a set of cans that doesn't need an external audio amp, or
> 2. a suitable external audio amp, ?
> 
> Brgds & tks from Dave, N3HE.
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[Elecraft] [K3/0 mini rx audio out]

[David Windisch]

All concerned:

I've searched the archives to no avail for the solution to this challenge.
If there were refs, I missed 'em.

The Heil, CM500 etc., etc., cans I've tried out, on the K3/0 mini front and
side audio outputs, simply do not put enough sound pressure on my TOEs
(tired old ears).
The K3S, however, _does_ put enough sound pressure on my TOEs, with _all_
the can/mic sets I have, especially with the WWII hi-z antique sets.

Has anyone out there in radioland found:
1. a set of cans that doesn't need an external audio amp, or
2. a suitable external audio amp, ?

Brgds & tks from Dave, N3HE.





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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini LCD Adjust for vertical mounting -- HOW TO??

[Courtney Krehbiel]

Hello All,

I have a K3 and a K3/0 mini control head.  They are both mounted with the front 
panel vertical in my shack.  That's the natural way the K3 sits, but not the 
K3/0 mini.  The K3/0 mini is designed for use primarily in a portable setting 
with the display at a shallow angle to the desktop.

My problem is the K3/0 mini display is quite washed out in the vertical 
position even with the LCD Adjust Menu entry set to 100.  At the minimum 
setting of 2 the display is virtually blank when viewed directly on at eye 
level.  Does anyone know of a "Super LCD Adjust" menu setting that will 
override the design tendency of the K3/0 mini to only be used at shallow angles 
on a desktop rather than at eye level?

Thanks much and 73!

  -- Courtney  KD6X
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Charles Tropp]

No, it does not. These are 3.5mm female jacks.

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 4:52 PM Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W) <
cx6vm.jo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Charly
>
> I thought there’s a specific K3/0 mini manual, like the K3 manual, that
> show all plugs that it have
>
> For example, PTT in the back, is RCA plug?
>
> Thanks
> Jorge
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 16 nov. 2018, a la(s) 21:41, Charles Tropp 
> escribió:
>
> Hi Jorge,
>
> On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select *support, manuals *and
> in the next window click the red *view  *button next to *K-Line Product
> Manuals *and then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view
> button. In the next window under title click the name of the manual in
> blue. Voila!
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
>> connecttos that it have?
>>
>> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W)]

Thanks Charly

I thought there’s a specific K3/0 mini manual, like the K3 manual, that show 
all plugs that it have

For example, PTT in the back, is RCA plug? 

Thanks
Jorge 

Enviado desde mi iPhone

El 16 nov. 2018, a la(s) 21:41, Charles Tropp  escribió:

> Hi Jorge,
> 
> On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select support, manuals and in 
> the next window click the red view  button next to K-Line Product Manuals and 
> then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view button. In the 
> next window under title click the name of the manual in blue. Voila!
> 
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM  
> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
>> connecttos that it have?
>> 
>> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>> 
>> -- 
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Charles Tropp]

Hi Jorge,

On the Elecraft website, click on the menu, select *support, manuals *and
in the next window click the red *view  *button next to *K-Line Product
Manuals *and then scroll down to the K3/0 Manual and click the red view
button. In the next window under title click the name of the manual in
blue. Voila!

On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 3:01 PM Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
> connecttos that it have?
>
> Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website
>
> --
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
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[Elecraft] K3/0 MINI manual or photos

[Jorge Diez - CX6VM]

Hello

do you know where to find K3/0 MINI photos (front/back/sides) to see all
connecttos that it have?

Manual is only for sale on Elecraft website

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[Elecraft] Set up Problems on WSJT/FT8 with Elecraft K3/0 Mini using RRC 1258 MKII

[David Mackey]

This set up has been working without problems for several weeks. Then CAT
connection problems began.  Audio is received and decoded, the K3/0 can
control the radio, however When WSJT is started, the familiar ³Rig Control
error² dialog box appears. In the Settings Menu under Radio, It does NOT
pass the CAT Test. I¹ve checked the ports and the port we are using is
assigned to the RRC unit.

Settings are 
COM6, Baud rate: 38400; Data Bits: Eight; Stop Bits: one; Handshake: None;
PTT Method; CAT; Port; USB (this seems to be my only choice in the dip down
menu); Mode; USB; Split operation: Fake it. I played around with a number of
these also trying other ports.

Software Version 1.9.1;

Does anyone have suggestions.

73 Dave K1KA


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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[Mark Goldberg]

Not knowing much about the protocol Elecraft / Microbit uses, or the IT
staff at the facility, I have doubts about what is being done to figure out
what the problem is. There are tools, such as Wireshark to look at the
packets as they flow through or don't flow through the network. You don't
have to guess. It is likely that some firewall is blocking the packets,
either outgoing or returning. Firewall rules may need to be set up or
changed. Microbit looks like it requires port forwarding for ports
13000-13002 and that must be done in any routers in the way. If they are
doing double NAT on two routers, both will have to get port forwarding set
up. A good IT person should be able to figure this out with the right tools.

All that being said, I don't like port forwarding. I created an incoming
VPN that can be connected to from outside my network using OpenVPN. There
are issues with various firewalls letting the VPN through but if they
connect, the remote device looks like it is on the local network and
everything works, and is encrypted end to end. That is not easy to set up
though.

73,

Mark
W7MLG


On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 4:18 AM, John P. Cummins, Sr.  wrote:

> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has moved
> into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active for more
> than 40 years.
>
> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back on
> the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a hitch.
>
> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and showed
> that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we ordered any
> equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
> facility and it worked perfectly.
>
> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the ACC
> jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully tested
> on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>
> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.  Additional
> tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from the facility
> and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side of the assisted
> living facility also work perfectly.
>
> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is a
> difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the Kenwood
> but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify that
> difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the facility is
> finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that are not present
> in the Kenwood packets.
>
> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>
> John, AD4S
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Another idea is to check the port settings on the router to ensure the port 
that Elecraft is using is “open”.

> On May 16, 2018, at 5:57 AM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
> I'm just spitballing here, but could the net connection there be double
> NATted so that the rig can't see the packets returning (since they have a
> different address?)
> 
> Packets are packets.  I had this problem - loss of connectivity - albeit
> with a media server in my house that I wanted to be able to hook to
> remotely.   I called my ISP who pinky swore that they were not double
> NATting the address.  I did some digging and logged into my cable modem and
> sure enough, NAT was turned on (which meant there was one translation in my
> router, and one more in the modem.)  Double NAT. Turned it off in the modem
> and bingo, the server was visible to the world.
> 
> I'm hesitant to tender this solution, mindful of the old saw that "if the
> only tool you have is a hammer, every job looks like a nail."   But at
> least it's something you can eliminate and it might be good for thought.
> 
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 07:18 John P. Cummins, Sr. 
> wrote:
> 
>> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has
>> moved into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active
>> for more than 40 years.
>> 
>> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
>> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back
>> on the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
>> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a
>> hitch.
>> 
>> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
>> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
>> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and
>> showed that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we
>> ordered any equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
>> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
>> facility and it worked perfectly.
>> 
>> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
>> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the
>> ACC jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully
>> tested on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
>> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>> 
>> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
>> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.
>> Additional tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from
>> the facility and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side
>> of the assisted living facility also work perfectly.
>> 
>> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is
>> a difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the
>> Kenwood but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify
>> that difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the
>> facility is finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that
>> are not present in the Kenwood packets.
>> 
>> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>> 
>> John, AD4S
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[rich hurd WC3T]

I'm just spitballing here, but could the net connection there be double
NATted so that the rig can't see the packets returning (since they have a
different address?)

Packets are packets.  I had this problem - loss of connectivity - albeit
with a media server in my house that I wanted to be able to hook to
remotely.   I called my ISP who pinky swore that they were not double
NATting the address.  I did some digging and logged into my cable modem and
sure enough, NAT was turned on (which meant there was one translation in my
router, and one more in the modem.)  Double NAT. Turned it off in the modem
and bingo, the server was visible to the world.

I'm hesitant to tender this solution, mindful of the old saw that "if the
only tool you have is a hammer, every job looks like a nail."   But at
least it's something you can eliminate and it might be good for thought.

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 07:18 John P. Cummins, Sr. 
wrote:

> I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has
> moved into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active
> for more than 40 years.
>
> He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another
> friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back
> on the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set
> implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a
> hitch.
>
> I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be
> possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he
> lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and
> showed that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we
> ordered any equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig
> RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living
> facility and it worked perfectly.
>
> On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package
> from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the
> ACC jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully
> tested on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then
> unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.
>
> For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and
> Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.
> Additional tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from
> the facility and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side
> of the assisted living facility also work perfectly.
>
> Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is
> a difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the
> Kenwood but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify
> that difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the
> facility is finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that
> are not present in the Kenwood packets.
>
> Has anyone else run across something like this?
>
> John, AD4S
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[Elecraft] K3-0-mini / K3 dilemma

[John P. Cummins, Sr.]

I have been working with a retired doctor ham friend of mine who has 
moved into an assisted living facility.  He has been licensed and active 
for more than 40 years.


He wanted to be able to use his K3 remotely and I had helped another 
friend of mine who is blind and is also a long time active ham get back 
on the air from a condo using the Kenwood TS480SAT -Remoterig RRC1258set 
implementation. This approach has worked for nearly 2 years without a 
hitch.


I suggested to my doctor friend that we should test whether it would be 
possible to operate remotely from within the large facility where he 
lived.  So we met with the IT staff there and they had no issues and 
showed that his apartment had internet already installed. Before we 
ordered any equipment I borrowed the TS450SAT control head and Remoterig 
RRC1258-control and tested from his apartment at the assisted living 
facility and it worked perfectly.


On the strength of the testing we ordered the K3-0-mini/K3 Twin package 
from Elecraft.  After getting over the shorted cable that goes to the 
ACC jack on the K3 and a dead power supply for the mini I successfully 
tested on my LAN and also from several other remote locations.  We then 
unsuccessfully attempted to operate from the assisted living facility.


For more than a month now we have been communicating with Microbit and 
Elecraft K3 support trying to figure out what the problem is.  
Additional tests with the TS-450SAT continue to operate perfectly from 
the facility and testing the K3-0-mini from several other sites out side 
of the assisted living facility also work perfectly.


Working with the IT staff at the facility we are convinced that there is 
a difference in the packets being generated by the Elecraft and the 
Kenwood but I have not been able find any documentation to help identify 
that difference.  We feel certain that the internet server at the 
facility is finding something suspicious in the Elecraft packets that 
are not present in the Kenwood packets.


Has anyone else run across something like this?

John, AD4S

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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini question

[Jerry]

Good afternoon,

 

I lost the audio on my K3/0 Mini last night. The unit functions as it should
in making changes to the remote K3 (actually located about 10 feet away). I
can see on the RemoteHams software the auto being received from the remote
and If I use a separate set of headphones using a different audio driver
(not the USB Codec) I can hear the audio coming from the RemoteHams server.
Any one have any ideas on how to fix this problem. Is there a master reset
for the K3/0 Mini unit? 

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

 

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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini & RRIGSET (two 1258MkII - Control & Remote) & Cables FOR SALE

[Dale - K7DNH]

Everything you need - 
K3/0 Mini 
2 RRC-1258MkII units – Control w/CW and Remote 
RRMINICBL  - Cable for K3/0-Mini to Control 1258MKII
RRMTCBL - Cables for Remote K3 to Remote 1258MKII

$995 Incl Shipping CONUS. AK & HI at cost.

Contact:  dh2849 AT sbcglobal  DOT  net




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and RemoteRig RRC-1258MkII Control Unit FOR SALE

[mike]

SOLD  73  ..mike  AI6II



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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini and RemoteRig RRC-1258MkII Control Unit FOR SALE

[mike]

Both units in excellent condition. Includes connecting cable and MH2 mic. RRC
has wifi option for wireless connection to computer.  $750 including
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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini-F running WSJT-X via RemoteHamRadio USB

[AL7CR]

I am testing RemoteHamRadio and have used WSJT-X under their web
application.  This has a few annoying limitations compared to running
locally from my K3S.

RemoteHamRadio now supports connecting the K3/0 Mini to the PC with only
a USB cable, i.e. no remoterig box is required.  They state that the
only difference between the two setups is that USB does not support
direct FSK at this time.  They also have told me that WSJT-X does not
support serial over ethernet very well hence  they do not recommend
using CAT.  H

I run WSJT-X JT9 and JT65 as my primary mode on my K3S.  I always use
the split mode feature to allow transmission in the sweet spot.  VOX for
TX would be OK but having to do everything manually would not be the
WSJT-X experience.

Has anyone out there run this configuration and if so what is your
experience?  If it works well then a full remote system running WSJT-X
with RemoteHamRadio would require only a K3/0 mini which is a pretty
sweet deal.

Hopefully someone had already tested this system.  I would rather not
have to buy a K3/0 Mini to test it.  It is tempting though ..

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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini + RemoteRig System

[mikelee0531]

Unit is in Nearly-New Condition - non-Smoking environment and cared-for by an 
FCC Licensed Tech (FCC First Class Radio Telephone and Telegraph, with Radar 
and  Avionics)

Has the following Options:

Elecraft K3/0 Mini Control Panel
RemoteRig 1258MK2 (both remote and control sides) - configured for K3 and K3/0 
Mini
WiFi modules + antennas for both RemoteRig Units
K3/0 Mini Control Cable to RemoteRig
RemoteRig cable for K3 (base)
Power Supply for RemoteRig (remote side) + K3/0 Mini

Total value (new) over $1,520
Asking $1,000 + $40 shipping

NO KNOWN DEFECTS - Unit works perfectly. The only “problem" is that it doesn’t 
get used very much, except to check-in on occasional nets. Never dropped or 
abused. Single owner, single operator - never lent out to individuals or groups.

Contact me off list at - aa...@arrl.org

I am a long-time Elecraft user, having two (2) complete K-Lines, as well as 
KX3’s (2) and a K2, so I know the quality of these products. I am also a former 
Vice Director of ARRL’s SouthEastern Division - and am a 100% reliable seller.

Payment by Cashier’s Check or Postal Money Order ONLY

Thanks for looking,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[dgb]

I took a 1.5 x 1.5 x 4" scrap piece of structural foam and cut a small 
vee longitudinally in it for the bail to rest in. I found that height 
was just about right, just below the center of gravity, for it not to 
easily tip over on it's face.


Works great!

73 Dwight NS9I



On 5/22/2017 11:49 AM, Mike Zak wrote:

I’ve searched through the archives and found nothing, time to seek the wisdom 
of crowds.

I use a K3/0-Mini and the ergonomics are a challenge.  Because of the design, 
its center of gravity, and the deployment of the bail, the front panel lies far 
too flat for me.  This makes it hard to adjust settings, and also provides a 
challenge in reading the display.  I prop it up on my station table with a 
jerry-built solution but would love something more stable.  In 2014 these 
issues were raised by DH8BQA but I was unable to find any suggestions of 
remedies.  Has anyone come up with a solution for this?  I wish I had my K3/0 
back, but I sold it and it’s gone.

TU,

Mike, W1MU
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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Mike Zak]

I’ve searched through the archives and found nothing, time to seek the wisdom 
of crowds.

I use a K3/0-Mini and the ergonomics are a challenge.  Because of the design, 
its center of gravity, and the deployment of the bail, the front panel lies far 
too flat for me.  This makes it hard to adjust settings, and also provides a 
challenge in reading the display.  I prop it up on my station table with a 
jerry-built solution but would love something more stable.  In 2014 these 
issues were raised by DH8BQA but I was unable to find any suggestions of 
remedies.  Has anyone come up with a solution for this?  I wish I had my K3/0 
back, but I sold it and it’s gone.

TU,

Mike, W1MU
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[Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and N1MM/Remote Rig Polling Problems

[John K3TN via Elecraft]

At the W4AAW remote operation, several K3/0 or Mini users are constantly
getting "Radio Reset" messages from their local N1MM+ instance, which
indicates that the N1MM polling of the K3/Mini (to obtain freq/mode data)
has not received a response for 15 seconds or more.

I noticed in the K3 firmware release notes (below) that a "noise fix" for
the Mini suspends RemoteRig polling during PTT.

Any details on that? If VOX is in use for CW, is the PTT condition mean key
down or during the entire time VOX is active? Ie, would QSK mode result in
less polling disruption than VOX on CW?

What I'm looking for is some way to reduce any disruption across the RRC
link that would impact N1MM polling.

73 John K3TN

*MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014*

* PSK63 MODE ADDED:  To select PSK31 or PSK63, first tap either end of the
MODE switch to select DATA, then hold the DATA MD switch and use VFO A to
select the PSK data rate.

* KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is pulling
the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON KAT500" is
displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 without
explanation.

** K3/0-MINI TX NOISE REDUCTION:  Polling by Remote-Rig units is suspended
during PTT use to reduce a "ticking" noise heard in some cases.*

* Changes to synthesizer, KXV3, and KPA3 device drivers (no effect on normal
operation).





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini usb port

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> How many DE-9 connectors are there on your USB to serial adapter?

Pretty sure that would be zero, since it's inside the K3/0-mini.


> If only one (which is normal), then only one COM port should be defined.
> That fact that you find 2 COM ports in device manager is cause for question
> unless you have an adapter with 2 physical serial ports.

It's normal for the K3/0-mini to present two virtual COM ports.

Jeff, can the K3 Utility talk to your K3/0-mini (when no other
software is attempting to do so)? That will tell you if the problem is
with the COM port plumbing or the DXLab Suite config.

73,

~iain / N6ML



> On 9/3/2016 10:03 AM, Jeff Griffin wrote:
>>
>>   I'm at FTDI 2.12.18.0,
>> I think this is the right level. There are no errors reported in any of
>> the
>> comport properties menu's. When I plug the USB cable in, com ports 5 and 6
>> appear in the device manager list. All looks normal. My DXLab commander
>> setup is. K3, com 5(I also tried 6),38400{same as K3/0),8,N,2,Y,Y.
>> interrogate  and enable are checked.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas, and can someone verify what level FTDI driver there
>> using that works. Thanks.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 mini usb port

[Don Wilhelm]

Jeff,

How many DE-9 connectors are there on your USB to serial adapter?
If only one (which is normal), then only one COM port should be defined.
That fact that you find 2 COM ports in device manager is cause for 
question unless you have an adapter with 2 physical serial ports.


Don W3FPR

On 9/3/2016 10:03 AM, Jeff Griffin wrote:

  I'm at FTDI 2.12.18.0,
I think this is the right level. There are no errors reported in any of the
comport properties menu's. When I plug the USB cable in, com ports 5 and 6
appear in the device manager list. All looks normal. My DXLab commander
setup is. K3, com 5(I also tried 6),38400{same as K3/0),8,N,2,Y,Y.
interrogate  and enable are checked.

Anyone have any ideas, and can someone verify what level FTDI driver there
using that works. Thanks.




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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini usb port

[Jeff Griffin]

For some reason while running remote I can't access my K3/0 mini via the USB
port with DXLab Commander anymore. All else is working remotely, only
problem is I can't control anything with my laptop, this all used to work. I
haven't used my remote system in awhile, but last time it worked fine. I'm
thinking maybe the FTDI driver got updated via win10. I'm at FTDI 2.12.18.0,
I think this is the right level. There are no errors reported in any of the
comport properties menu's. When I plug the USB cable in, com ports 5 and 6
appear in the device manager list. All looks normal. My DXLab commander
setup is. K3, com 5(I also tried 6),38400{same as K3/0),8,N,2,Y,Y.
interrogate  and enable are checked.

Anyone have any ideas, and can someone verify what level FTDI driver there
using that works. Thanks.

 

73 Jeff kb2m

 

 

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[Elecraft] k3/0 Mini problem

[Jerry]

GM All,

 

I purchased and have installed a K3/0 using Remote Hams software.  When I
run the unit as a client, I have noticed that I am not able to use the 2nd
receiver. It is absolutely quiet. I can point the transmit towards the
frequency on the second receiver and it will transmit on that frequency. At
the moment, it appears that in order to work split on a rare dx station, the
configuration has to be reversed ie. DX station on main vfo and set the
transmit frequency on some frequency in the dx station suggested listening
bandwidth.



Or have I missed something in the setup that would allow me to use the K3/0
Mini just like I would my home K3? I'm hoping that this is the case.

 

Best regards,

 

Jerry, W1IE

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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini available

[on4iq]

If anyone interested, I have a k3/0 mini available with cable set, can ship
it worldwide or bring it along to US (Texas) end of the summer. Would
consider KX3 swap.

Drop me mail if interested.
Johan, ON4IQ



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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini with N1MM and other software

[Ron Castro]

Can the K3/0 Mini be interfaced directly with N1MM and other control
software, and if so, how is that done?

 

Thanks,

  Ron Castro

   N6IE

www.N6IE.com  

 

Member:

  ARRL

 Redwood Empire DX Assn.

Northern California Contest Club

Northern California DX Foundation

  Society of Broadcast Engineers

 

 

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[Elecraft] K3/0 Mini Transmit Audio noise

[Ron Castro]

I just received a new K3/0 Mini and RemoteRig system and connected it via
LAN to a K3 that will soon be running remote.  Everything seems to work
except that the transmit audio is plagued by loud digital hash about 10 dB
below the mic level that does not occur when the mic is plugged directly
into the K3.  After reading a post from another user with the same problem,
I fed the mic directly into the RemoteRig and there was no noise.  I tried
both the front and side panel connections with three different microphones
that all worked fine with another RemoteRig system I am currently running.

 

While I am new to Elecraft products, I have used the RemoteRig equipment for
three years and I'm familiar with the settings, applications and
limitations, but it's clear to me that something is wrong in the K3/0.  This
is not the "click" caused by polling that was fixed with a recent update.
The user who had the problem last year said that there were numerous others
that had the same problem.

 

What is known about this and how can it be fixed, other than with my
'ham-strung' RJ45 jumper that brings the RemoteRig mic out direct?

 

  Ron Castro

   N6IE

www.N6IE.com  

 

Member:

  ARRL

 Redwood Empire DX Assn.

Northern California Contest Club

Northern California DX Foundation

  Society of Broadcast Engineers

 

 

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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini + RemoteRIg package is SOLD

[Jim Spears]

Title tells it all.  it is on its way to Arizona.

 

Jim/N1NK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and windows 10

[Ian]

Usually drivers like to be installed as admin - right-click on the file and
select that option.  FTDI just released an update at
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

73, Ian N8IK 


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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian
D. Comer
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and windows 10

Does anyone have any experience installing the FTDI  drivers on windows 10
for the K3/0 mini. Windows 10 does not appear to install them automatically.
I cannot find instructions on the web site.

 

Thanks 73

 

Brian KF6C. 

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[Elecraft] K3/0-MINI and windows 10

[Brian D. Comer]

Does anyone have any experience installing the FTDI  drivers on windows 10
for the K3/0 mini. Windows 10 does not appear to install them automatically.
I cannot find instructions on the web site.

 

Thanks 73

 

Brian KF6C. 

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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3/0-Mini low audio in headphones

[Paul Wyse]

I am operating my home K3 radio in VA remotely using RemoteRig
RCC-1258MKII twins and the K3/0-Mini. Everything is working well with
the exception of the audio level in my Yamaha CM 500 headphones. The
audio level is normal on the speaker but when I plug the headphones in
the audio is very low. It appears the headphones are loading down the
audio circuit. I tried another headset and it was the same. Any
suggestions?

73,
Paul, W4PFM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Rick Stealey]

Barry says:
> My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
> remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
> using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, 
> but presume that the same concepts apply.
> 

The user will not be able to make some changes on the remotehams.com K3 at the 
remote site, for obvious reasons.For example he will not be able to access the 
transmit EQ menu and make changes which might degrade the K3 for the next user 
who has a different microphone.  I am not familiar with what menu items are 
locked out, but I know at least some are.For now, if I may make a suggestion, 
it would be for the new user to familiarize himself with the front panel 
controls and not worry at all about any menu settings.
Rick  K2XT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Barry Baines]

George:

Other than the specific instructions needed to connect the K3/IO-Mini to a K3 
trough a Remote Rig device, there is nothing different about setting up and 
operating the K3/IO-Mini than there is in operating the target K3 itself.  Keep 
in mind that the front panel of the K3/IO-mini (including all knobs, menus, 
etc.) directly controls the corresponding settings of the “remote” (or 
“target”) K3 that it is connected to.  When you change a setting on the 
K3/IO-Mini, it is actually changing the settings on the target K3.  If you go 
into the configuration menus, you’re changing the configuration of the target 
K3.

The only exception off hand that I can think of to this general statement is 
that K3 must be set for “rear panel” microphone so that the mic feed that is 
coming from the “remote” K3/IO-Mini to the target K3 which in fact is fed to 
the rear panel connection of the target K3, is utilized.  Otherwise, if a front 
panel mic source is selected, the audio will not be fed into the target K3 from 
the K3/IO-Mini.

The real question is whether the operator is familiar with using a K3 and knows 
how to configure settings to meet their needs.  Thus, reviewing the K3 
operating manual makes much sense since that is what is being controlled by the 
K3/IO-Mini.

My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, but 
presume that the same concepts apply.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA
(Currently in Shelby, NC)


On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:10 PM, George via Elecraft  
wrote:
> 
> 
> I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
> stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
> 
> The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
> to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
> with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
> update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
> information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
> information 
> about its Menu and Config selections.  
> 
> Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
> with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
> that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
> can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
> explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  
> K3/0_Mini.
> 
> Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
> Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
> functions of the Mini?
> 
> Thanks, George.
> 
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL  34242
> 941-400-1960
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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[George via Elecraft]

I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
 
The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
information 
about its Menu and Config selections.  
 
Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  K3/0_Mini.
 
Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
functions of the Mini?
 
Thanks, George.
 
George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL  34242
941-400-1960
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[Elecraft] K3/0 mini remote rig problem

[kb2m]

I'm trying to get my remote setup running again at a different location.
It's been awhile since I last set it up, I was using it at my winter home
for several months without a problem, but can't get it to work here. I have
the feeling I'm forgetting something. Here's my setup and the problem.
I'm connected to the internet via Comcast. I'm at my summer home, and just
had the new Comcast router installed yesterday. I'm using a WiFi extender
that I used in the past with no problem, the extender is configured with my
connection ID with a _EXT extension, without a password. The RRC 1258 is
connected to the extender via an Ethernet cable, the setup I've been using
with no issues. 
 When I run the Microbit setup program using a USB cable connected to the
RRC 1258 I'm seeing the local RRC, but not the remote one at the K3 site. I
vaguely remember that I should be seeing both RRC 1258's ? But I'm not sure.
Anyway when I turn on the K3/0 mini I get the connect beep(not the
no-connection alarm) but the K3/0 shows a freq and TERM and the controls are
inoperative, turning the main VFO does nothing, etc.
So to recap.
1. I think I should see both RRC's in the Microbit s/w config window ?

2. Do I need to enter the login info for the local router, but I forget
where to do so if true.

Anyone have anything for me to try while I wait to call Elecraft support ?

73 Jeff kb2m
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[John K3TN via Elecraft]

Hi, Jim - I'm a big fan of your guidance on bonding/shielding. There aren't a
lot of variables to play with between the K3 Mini and the Remote Rig - I did
all the usual things that have solved hum in the past, but didn't see any
improvement. I'm going to run the Mini off of a battery, see if that solves
the TX hum - but I mostly do CW, so haven't gotten back to it.

The RX audio problem is pure attenuation, I can crank up the gain on the RRC
to overcome that attenuation in the Mini audio path but then I'm likely to
be introducing distortion in the RRC.

73 John K3TN



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

I hope to not live in an apartment that long :)

On 5/30/15, 4:03 PM, "G4GNX"  wrote:

>Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.
>
>Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
>jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
>development.
>
>Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
>they are under-developed "devices of the devil"!
>
>Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: "It was
>late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
>trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
>stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
>responsible"!!!
>
>It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!
>
>73,
>
>Alan. G4GNX
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Don Wilhelm
>Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?
>
>I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
>least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
>problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.
>
>It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
>sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
>plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
>strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
>of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
>near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
>other emergency service transmitters.
>IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
>withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
>understand that, and the ham "is to blame".  There was a parallel back
>in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
>designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
>frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
>even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
>It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
>sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
>>interest. 
>> I
>> had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got
>>me
>> quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
>> have
>> been mandatory since 1999!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[G4GNX]

Fortunately these devices are not mandated in the UK.

Whilst the prevention of fires is laudable, ISTM that the regulators have
jumped the gun and insisted on the use of a device that is still under
development.

Reading the WIKI on AFCI breakers, where lightning nuisance trips occur,
they are under-developed "devices of the devil"!

Perhaps it's time that litigation took place, along the lines of: "It was
late at night and there was an electrical storm which caused an AFCI to
trip, which resulted in the lights failing. My aging mother fell down the
stairs in the dark and broke her collar bone, for which I hold you fully
responsible"!!!

It would seem that it is still not possible to fix 'stupid'!

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-Original Message- 
From: Don Wilhelm

Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 10:01 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.

It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not
understand that, and the ham "is to blame".  There was a parallel back
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham,
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. 
I

had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices 
have

been mandatory since 1999!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Don Wilhelm]

I recall reading something in an ARRL publication or newsletter that at 
least one manufacturer of AFCI breakers has addressed and corrected the 
problem of RF susceptibility.  That company is Eaton.


It is a bummer that consumers must suffer from products that do not have 
sufficient RF immunity.  If all manufacturers would 'step up to the 
plate' and accept that we live in a world where RF is present, often in 
strong fields, we would not have a problem.  Hams are not the only cause 
of RF problems - think of the problems encountered by those who reside 
near broadcast stations.  RF fields are emitted by police, fire and 
other emergency service transmitters.
IMHO, more manufacturers must be willing to design products that can 
withstand reasonable RF fields.  Of course, most consumers do not 
understand that, and the ham "is to blame".  There was a parallel back 
in the 1950s and 1960s with television interference when many TVs were 
designed with front ends and IF chains that would pick up RF on most any 
frequency, much to the consumer's dismay and blame placed on the ham, 
even if his transmissions were clean of harmonics.
It just about drove operation on 15 meters off the air because many TV 
sets used a 21 MHz IF that was 'wide open' for interference.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/30/2015 4:13 PM, ab2tc wrote:

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices have
been mandatory since 1999!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Brian Sheets]

YahŠ it sucks. I knew when I moved to an apartment that staying on HF was
going to be a challenge, but I was not prepared for the breaker issue. I
found that with my kx3 and a wonderwand wonder loop on my kitchen table,
that with 10 watts I can do some jt65 and wspr on 20m without popping the
breakers. But my success has been limited and not worthwhile.

I¹ve been a remotehamradio user for almost a year now, but I don¹t have
much interest in ssb or cw these days. Remotehamradio does have a beta
test going on for ³logging² software such as ham radio deluxe. I¹ve tried
jt65 over it, but haven¹t had consistent results and get disconnected or
have HRD lock up. I¹ve been avoiding buying a K3/0 for some time, just
because I didn¹t want to spend the money on a ³non radio² device. But if
I¹m going to get back on jt65, I think its my best option.

Brian
KA7KDX

On 5/30/15, 2:13 PM, "ab2tc"  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my
>interest. I
>had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
>quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices
>have
>been mandatory since 1999! Another federal mandate to protect people
>against
>their own stupidity (not checking their power cords for fraying and other
>damage).
>
>AB2TC - Knut
>
>
>KA7KDX wrote
>> Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment,
>>I've
>> tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
>> out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the
>>apartments
>> around me.)
>> 
>> So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know
>> 
>> Brian
>> KA7KDX
>> bri...@fl240.com
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Sorry, I don't have a K3/0, but your problem certainly caught my interest. I
had never heard of AFCI breakers before, but a quick Google search got me
quickly reeducated and my eyes glazed over. Wow, these RF prone devices have
been mandatory since 1999! Another federal mandate to protect people against
their own stupidity (not checking their power cords for fraying and other
damage).

AB2TC - Knut


KA7KDX wrote
> Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment, I've
> tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
> out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the apartments
> around me.)
> 
> So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know
> 
> Brian
> KA7KDX
> bri...@fl240.com





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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[KA7KDX]

Does anyone have K3/0 they want to part with? I'm stuck in apartment, I've
tried everything from wires to magnetic loops. My problem is not getting
out, its AFCI breakers. Any rf out and they pop (including the apartments
around me.)

So if anyone has one they want to part with, let me know

Brian
KA7KDX
bri...@fl240.com



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[PKA]

Joe
I use one of three different solutions:

1. From a laptop I use two Winkeyers connected over IP via K1EL WKremote 
Server/Client programs. Keying may be either using a paddle or using the laptop 
keyboard. Alternatively it is possible to use only one Winkeyer at the remote 
rig and input by keyboard via Teamviewer. Audio is based on IP-Sound which is 
excellent for CW ( superior to Skype).

2. From an iPad or iPhone I use an app called K3iNetwork made by Mike KS7D. 
Keying using the keypad. You can even use voice input to the iPhone/iPad (and 
key your rig) using SIRI, but this is not yet useful and needs some more work 
on the app. But it could be developed to be an interesting mode for RC 
operation from a moving car. Audio based on Skype.

3. From an iPad or iPhone I use an app called K3iDitDah also made by Mike. 
Keying is done using the touch screen in a way like touch-type paddling. 
Although this app can be used as it is now it still does need some development 
work. Audio based on Skype.

NB: It is possible to switch between solution 1 and 2 (or 3) on the fly while 
receiving!

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

On 29 May 2015, at 22:01, Joe Moffatt 
mailto:j...@selectconnect.net>> wrote:

What remote solution do you use for CW?

Joe



From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik 
Karlshøj (PKA)
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 11:53 AM
To: jlbates4
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

It all depends on what you want to achieve.

There are many different reasons for hams to want to operate RC. Different 
requirements probably call for different solutions.

If you want to operate your home rig (or for that matter a real remote rig) 
when you are not at home, eg. when travelling, it might be both expensive and 
unpractical using the K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set. Expensive or not depends on 
your financial situation of course. But you will spend something like 1270 USD 
and you will have to carry around some boxes and cables etc. But you have the 
luxury of having a very attractive man/machine interface!

Still for the traveller: If you want an inexpensive solution, if you can accept 
to operate your rig from a computer screen and *if* you anyway carry a laptop 
ot iPad (or even iPhone) and you already have a PC in your shack (you can do 
away with a cheap notebook) you can limit your investment to less than 100 USD 
and still operate your K3+KPA+Kat500 quite satisfactorily. I dare to say so 
because I have done it for many years (>20k QSOs over 10 years, all CW).

You will need to dig into some details about setting up networks and handle 
computers, so if you dont like to do this, it might not be your solution. I 
would not say it is free of problems/challenges, but I started from scratch, 
and am very satisfied with how it works.

But if on the other hand you want to set up a stationary operating pos. for a 
remote station, it is a completely different ball game and I think the 
K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set is by far the best solution for that situation.

So my advice to you is to first of all find out what kind of use you are 
looking for and then select a solution.

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

> On 26 May 2015, at 14:40, jlbates4 
> <mailto:jlbat...@gmail.com%3e> wrote:
>
> I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
> siren call is hard to resist. I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
> products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.
>
> I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
> commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.
>
> Anyone play with the codecs? Thoughts on the different audio quality?
>
> My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
> some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.
>
> Comments encouraged!!!
>
>
> 73 de K8OI
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[PKA]

It all depends on what you want to achieve.

There are many different reasons for hams to want to operate RC. Different 
requirements probably call for different solutions.

If you want to operate your home rig (or for that matter a real remote rig) 
when you are not at home, eg. when travelling, it might be both expensive and 
unpractical using the K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set. Expensive or not depends on 
your financial situation of course. But you will spend something like 1270 USD 
and you will have to carry around some boxes and cables etc. But you have the 
luxury of having a very attractive man/machine interface!

Still for the traveller: If you want an inexpensive solution, if you can accept 
to operate your rig from a computer screen and *if* you anyway carry a laptop 
ot iPad (or even iPhone) and you already have a PC in your shack (you can do 
away with a cheap notebook)  you can limit your investment to less than 100 USD 
and still operate your K3+KPA+Kat500 quite satisfactorily. I dare to say so 
because I have done it for many years (>20k QSOs over 10 years, all CW).

You will need to dig into some details about setting up networks and handle 
computers, so if you dont like to do this, it might not be your solution. I 
would not say it is free of problems/challenges, but I started from scratch, 
and am very satisfied with how it works.

But if on the other hand you want to set up a stationary operating pos. for a 
remote station, it is a completely different ball game and I think the 
K3/0-Mini and RemoteRig set is by far the best solution for that situation.

So my advice to you is to first of all find out what kind of use you are 
looking for and then select a solution.

73 de Paul
OZ4UN

Sent from my iPad

> On 26 May 2015, at 14:40, jlbates4  wrote:
> 
> I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
> siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
> products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.
> 
> I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
> commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.
> 
> Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?
> 
> My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
> some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.
> 
> Comments encouraged!!!
> 
> 
> 73 de K8OI
> 
> 
> 
> -
> K8OI
> mailto:jlbat...@gmail.com
> (804) 592-1068
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

Good perception, Jim... experience pays off.   We had this same problem
with Andy, K2LE.  We have two remoterig remote ends connected to the same
common remote station.  My audio has been flawless.  Andy kept having poor
audio -- muffled, microphonic sounds but no clear audio.  It turned out to
be the power supply, which was an underpowered switching supply.  The
RemoteRig box does not come with a supply.  I power mine off of a 4A
switcher,  and it's fine.A 1A supply should work, but they seem to have
issues.

73, Gerry W1VE


On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On Wed,5/27/2015 3:04 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote:
>
>> Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
>> headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
>> mileage may vary.
>>
>
> Hi John,
>
> I know nothing about these products other than a vague one paragraph
> functional description, but I do suspect an issue with the audio interface
> and/or how the units are powered and bonded. Take a look at the pdf of my
> slides for a talk I did on this topic at Pacificon last fall.
> http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,5/27/2015 3:04 AM, John K3TN via Elecraft wrote:

Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
mileage may vary.


Hi John,

I know nothing about these products other than a vague one paragraph 
functional description, but I do suspect an issue with the audio 
interface and/or how the units are powered and bonded. Take a look at 
the pdf of my slides for a talk I did on this topic at Pacificon last 
fall. http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Gerry Hull]

​I've been using the K3/0 mini for about a year for casual DXing and for
many contests.
The K3/0 mini is perfect -- a mirror of your K3.​  Once you get used to the
the fact that
you are setting menus on the Remote radio, all will be good.

The mix that is important is how you use the K3/0 to interconnect it to the
remote shack.
As stated here, many users are using the MicroBit RemoteRig product.  This
adds about $750+/-
to your remote cost, but provides a far superior result than any other
method.

The killers in remote operation are latency and jitter (jitter being the
varying difference in latency over time.)
The Microbit boxes use dedicated hardware, and a very flexible software
configuration. to allow you to tailor the box to your needs.   The
RemoteRig components are not designed specifically for the K3; therefore,
they have a generic interface design, and Elecraft sells the specific
interconnect cable for the K3/0.

The majority of my contesting experience has been on CW in the Majors: CQWW
and ARRL DX, running remote to K2LE/1 from my QTH in NH.  The shack has
1.5Mb/.5Mb DSL service.  The average latency on the connection varies from
120-150mS, with very manageable jitter.   We run the RemoteRig boxes with
8kHz bandwidth, and this works very well.   I don't feel handicapped by
being remote at all... In many QSOs, I get unsolicited comments of great
audio on SSB, and no issues with CW.  It is just like being there.

The Microbit boxes do have a lot of configuration parameters.  You also
have to know how to port forward from your router in the shack (unless you
are using the box in your own home, and both ends are on the same LAN).  If
you are not familiar with networking, configuring the boxes can be a
challenge.  As the others have stated, the forum on the RemoteRig site is a
good resource --> search it with Google first, as much of your frustration
has already been experienced by others.

Their is another solution with the K3/0 which is essentially 15-minute plug
and play.  It is a free solution, once you own the K3/0.   This is the
software and website of Brandon, KG6YPI -- an Elecraft employee and the guy
you usually talk to if you are experiencing problems with the Microbit gear
and K3/0.

Your K3/0 has a USB connector on it.   This connector can be plugged into a
PC, and two codecs (send/receive) and two RS-232 connections (Rig Control
and passthrough) are automatically installed.

Brandon's site is www.remotehams.com.   Their is PC software for the remote
end as well as the server end.
You can use Brandon's software without the K3/0 -- but it has some very
cool features:
- If you have a K3/0 and a K3 at the station, you get full control of the
radio with all features.
- If you want to connect to a remote on RemoteHams, where the remote is NOT
a K3, you can still use the
K3/0 for frequency control and other features.

I use RemoteHams to control Dom, 3Z9DX's station, and run SSB from Poland.
  It works very well, though the overall
latency is much higher.

CW still has some work to be done.  But I know Brandon is getting there.
I've asked Dom if I could try his station in some contest on CW -- it will
be interesting to see how that works out.

I use both RemoteHams and the Microbit RemoteRig solution with the K3/0,
and am very happy with both; I will continue to use RemoteRig in serious
contest situations.

73, Gerry W1VE
Hancock, NH





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On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:39 AM, jlbates4  wrote:

> I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
> siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
> products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.
>
> I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
> commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.
>
> Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?
>
> My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
> some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.
>
> Comments encouraged!!!
>
>
> 73 de K8OI
>
>
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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Ellam, Timothy St. J.]

I have used the RemoteRig with a K3/0 (not the mini) to a K3/KPA500 combination 
and a SteppIR vertical. It works fine, but the RX audio is certainly not a 
strong as directly through the RemoteRig.

As others have noted this not quite plug and play and some tweaking of the 
parameters is required. There is a lot of good information on the RemoteRig 
forum and DJ0QN has some excellent network guides for those who have a limited 
understanding of this area (like me).

Internet connectivity is key. You need solid connections at both ends otherwise 
latency is an issue.

All in all though the system is seamless and is a game changer for remote 
operation.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[John K3TN via Elecraft]

I've been using the Remote Rig interfaces with my K3 for several years and
the K3/Mini for the past 6 months or so. I'm a big fan of the Remote Rig
devices, not a fan of the K3/Mini.

I started out doing remote operating with the K4VV group using an all
software approach and the Remote Rig devices are an enormous improvement -
reduction in latency, better audio quality, the ability to essentially just
have a very long mic/key/headset cords vs. doing remote PC control.

You still need a decent Internet connection. The Remote Rig interfaces will
**not** correct for packet loss or high jitter (variable latency) Internet
connections. If your round trip delay is much over 150ms, or varies widely
from ping to ping, or if you lose packets, CW in particular will not be
usable. 

The Remote Rigs also have a gazillion parameters and the manuals don't quite
get you there - almost everyone has to resort to the "million monkeys
randomly hitting keys" approach to get everything going. The forums on the
Remote Rig site are very helpful and W1UE in particular has posted a lot of
good K3 guidance.

The K3/Mini has been a big disappointment, especially at the price - I
should have just gotten a bare bones K3. The major problem has been the
audio on both TX and RX when connecting the headset to the Mini (vs.
connecting to the RemoteRig). On TX, I get loud hum and on RX, the audio is
20db down compared to the audio coming out of the RemoteRig.

I sent the Mini back, Elecraft sent it back saying it worked fine. (They
didn't even contact me, which I objected to and they are fixing that problem
in their process.) On RX, apparently that audio loss is due to a filter that
was put in to deal with digital noise getting in the audio, but running the
AF gain at 90% on the Mini is not acceptable to me - distortion up and no
head room for low signals or turning off AGC, etc.

So, I have to connect the headset to the RemoteRig, then audio is fine - but
the cabling is less convenient and messy. Part of the reason I justified
spending the $700 was to be able to essentially use the Mini just like I
would a "real" K3, but I can't do that. I may bring along the Mini and
Remote Rig set up on travel some day if I keep the Mini - that portability
is about the only reason to keep it.

Others have had the same audio issues, others just naturally connect their
headset to the RemoteRig, others have had no problems with the Mini - your
mileage may vary. 

73 John K3TN



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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Randy]

I am fairly new to Elecraft and the K3 but I do have the K3/0 mini and the
Remoterig twins for K3.  I ordered and installed the WiFi board for the
Remoterig. All works excellent. As long as the WiFi connection is OK, the
K3/0 mini connects to the remote site and operates as if you are there.
Many QSO's using the remote equipment and the other party cannot tell the
difference. I am just using the standard MH2 mike. I do like the WiFi option
as if allows me to establish stored WiFi connects that are remembered when I
return so I simply set up the K3/0 mini and remote rig, turn it on and with
a minute or so, it is ready to operate.

 

Latency is small and not really noticeable so no issues there.  

 

You can use the K3/0 mini within your network but you may need a different
destination IP than if you are outside the network. I have operated both
ways.

 

I have not played with the codecs yet. My audio reports are good.

 

I do have a PC at the remote site and I connect to it with Team Viewer which
allows me to operate and monitor the KAT500 and KPA500 via my laptop. I use
the Elecraft beta control software for this.

 

Home QTH is Calgary, Alberta. My K3 is British Columbia (VE7). I have
operated from Phoenix, Fort Lauderdale and Calgary on a fairly regular
basis. And, at the K3 site, take the K3/0 mini onto the deck outside and
operate there when the weather is nice.

 

Just a few comments.

 

 

Randy

VE6RMB

 


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I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the Remoterig
products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

 

I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

 

Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

 

My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

 

Comments encouraged!!!

 

 

73 de K8OI

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[jim]

Have you thought of an intervention?

I have had MANY, or I would be penniless now, living out of a Ford
Pinto

Jim
W6AIM




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Subject: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

Comments encouraged!!!


73 de K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

I used mine to remote my radio all of about two feet. It was nice having
a smaller control head on my computer desk. I bought it thinking I could
use it to work Kansas while I was on vacation in Japan - and then I
never used it for that. Kansas is the only state I don't have on CW.

I have to get it set up again and get it working through my firewall.
It was definitely a fun thing to play with.

On Tue, 26 May 2015, jlbates4 wrote:


I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

Comments encouraged!!!


73 de K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[Kari SM0HRP]

Hi!
I have used the K3 mini extensively over the year. Both over a ADSL line and
4G. . Latency is dependent on the internet access -  on ADLS it is 10 ms on
4G 30-40 ms.The K3 mini is so well established and works so well with the K3
and the RRC 1258 units so it is just for you to go and buy it. There is no
big difference with different codecs. I use the next lowest quality level
and when running dual mode it consumes about 400 kbps. Going for better
audio quality I could not hear the difference to be honest.   I have worked
over 700 QSO:s over a year and all major Dx-peditions on almost all bands
which proves the quality of the system. My system can be seen on qrz.com.
I control ACOM2000A:s and OM 2500A:s with rotor controls from Green Heron.
Works UFB.  
Join the satisfied Electraft K3 remote club. You wont be disappointed.   



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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini - Experiences?

[jlbates4]

I'm in the midst of a terrible urge to spend some $$'s and the K3/0'-Mini's
siren call is hard to resist.  I've done a bit of reading on the RemoteRig
products and there is scare info on the K3/0 mini.

I'd love to hear any testimonials, rig setups, real-world latency
commentary, or even how you manage the firmware.

Anyone play with the codecs?  Thoughts on the different audio quality?

My current though is using the K3/0-Mini on the same local network and I do
some occasional work travel, might be nice to take it with me.

Comments encouraged!!!


73 de K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 Mini

[Gerry Hull]

The K3/0 does not have a network connection as part of the solution.
There are two ways to use it with the Wireless lan:
- If you use the RemoteHams software, you can use a Windows tablet
as the interface (You can get a Dell Venue 8 tablet on eBay for about
$100) and plug your K3/0 into it.
- You can use a RemoteRig box with a Wireless interface or a Wireless
Bridge.

73,

Gerry, W1VE


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On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Hunter Ellington via Elecraft <
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> This is probably a silly question, but here goes. In reading the sales
> material for the new Flex Maestro, I was intrigued by the idea of operating
> over a wireless LAN so the radio can go with you around the house. Can we
> do the same thing with the K3/0 Mini?  K0GFY  R. Hunter Ellington
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