Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Fjeld
There are several FreeDV videos on YouTube.  Here is one that is a quick 
start guide.  I don't know if there are restrictions for posting links.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zijJ556cs08

Dick, n0ce



On 3/28/2017 8:00 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
> I loaded FreeDV today, on an Ubuntu i5-64bit laptop. It works quite 
> well.  I heard no calls on 14.236 MHZ, but the receive function is 
> working.  I'm having the usual fun setting up PTT, but it will come 
> along over time.
>
> Tried doing the same thing on the Windoze 7-64 box, and Panda AV 
> decided it was a virus and sidetracked it, meaning it IS a virus.   
> That would be the installer program.  Has anyone else had this 
> problem?  Just curious. I've had other programs trigger Panda to flush 
> them, but nothing like this.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> matt W6NIA
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-28 Thread Matt Zilmer
I loaded FreeDV today, on an Ubuntu i5-64bit laptop. It works quite 
well.  I heard no calls on 14.236 MHZ, but the receive function is 
working.  I'm having the usual fun setting up PTT, but it will come 
along over time.


Tried doing the same thing on the Windoze 7-64 box, and Panda AV decided 
it was a virus and sidetracked it, meaning it IS a virus.   That would 
be the installer program.  Has anyone else had this problem?  Just 
curious. I've had other programs trigger Panda to flush them, but 
nothing like this.


Thanks and 73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/27/2017 11:10 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

Greetings to all,

The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.

I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
you will find the reviews interesting and informative.

Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)

FYI,
Dick, n0ce




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Fjeld
Another fellow about 125 miles away experimented with me on 75 meters 
during a summer evening in conditions we would not have wanted to 
operate in otherwise.  We were surprised to find that fading was more of 
a problem.

Dick, n0ce


On 3/28/2017 10:57 AM, Brian Pietrzyk wrote:
> I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great 
> possibilities. The only issue run into is there's only a small group of 
> people using it so it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find 
> It works best on the higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So 
> you have to catch an opening and find people that are the right distance away 
> and monitoring in FreeDV mode.
>
> I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be 
> added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow.
>
> Brian ve3bwp
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-28 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

I had my mcHF sitting here monitoring 14.236 in FreeDV Mode and one day it 
started talking.
At the time I was on the phone with a coworker who also was a ham so he 
understood my Nerd Out moment of excitement.



  From: Brian Pietrzyk 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
   
I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great possibilities. 
The only issue run into is there's only a small group of people using it so 
it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find It works best on the 
higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So you have to catch an 
opening and find people that are the right distance away and monitoring in 
FreeDV mode. 

I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be 
added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow. 

Brian ve3bwp

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:08:16 -0700
From: Bob Nielsen 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it 
provides a digital voice mode.

FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the 
open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a 
computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter 
(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This 
should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I 
haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.

Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
> I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it
> 
>      From: Richard Fjeld 
>  To: Elecraft Reflector 
>  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
> 
> Greetings to all,
> 
> The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
> interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
> for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
> 
> I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
> digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
> times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
> encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
> again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
> you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
> 
> Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
> think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
> my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
> you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
> it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)
> 
> FYI,
> Dick, n0ce
> 
> 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-28 Thread Brian Pietrzyk
I second this! I've played with FreeDV too and it has some great possibilities. 
The only issue run into is there's only a small group of people using it so 
it's often hard to find someone else on to talk to. I find It works best on the 
higher (and quieter) frequencies such as 20m and up. So you have to catch an 
opening and find people that are the right distance away and monitoring in 
FreeDV mode. 

I really hope we can get more people interested in FreeDV and if it could be 
added into the K and KX series firmware update that would help it grow. 

Brian ve3bwp

Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 16:08:16 -0700
From: Bob Nielsen 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it 
provides a digital voice mode.

FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the 
open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a 
computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter 
(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This 
should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I 
haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.

Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
> I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it
> 
>   From: Richard Fjeld 
>  To: Elecraft Reflector 
>  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
> 
> Greetings to all,
> 
> The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
> interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
> for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
> 
> I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
> digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
> times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
> encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
> again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
> you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
> 
> Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
> think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
> my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
> you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
> it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)
> 
> FYI,
> Dick, n0ce
> 
> 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Matthew Cook
I'd wait until David VK5DGR gets the FreeDV bit rate lower which will
improve the Eb/n0 requirements and bring the performance closer to that of
SSB.  If you're not already following along on David's blog it's worth a
read (http://www.rowetel.com/) his writing style is easy going and he
explains things well.

His current work on Codec2 700C surpassing MELP 600 in performance along
with some new modem ideas will push the limits of what's possible with
Digital voice on HF.  It will not be long and the performance of FreeDV
will be equal too if not surpass SSB on a standard HF channel.  Yes this
can be done already, however you do end up sounding like donald duck and a
bit robotic for my liking on current technology.  The work on Codec2 will
change this.

While the FreeDV code base (Modem + Codec2) is open source the integration
work is not insignificant.  The current FreeDV codebase in the SM1000 runs
on a STM32V405xxx 32-bit ARM core clocked at 168MHz with a real FPU and no
RTOS it runs bare metal.  That is some serious beans in terms of DSP
processing !!!  The effort involved in bringing this into any product
should not be underestimated, there is still some very serious work to do
which results in $$$ spent.

While FreeDV is under active development interfacing a linux based laptop
to the K3 and using this to keep up with the Jones's is perhaps the best
course of action.  Those with the K3s are already ahead of those with a
stock K3 since they already have the internal USB sound card.  However
making cables for laptops and PTT cct's isn't hard either.

Once the performance of FreeDV surpasses that of standard SSB then would it
be time for internal integration work to begin.  I'm fingers crossed that
the processors and DSP in the next iteration of the K-line will have enough
processing beans to "answer the meaning of life the universe and
everything" in real time.  As David tells me on the local repeater most
mornings "MIPS are cheap".  That is about the time frame I'd expect both of
these technologies to collide.

YMMV.

73

Matthew
VK5ZM

On 28 March 2017 at 04:40, Richard Fjeld  wrote:

> Greetings to all,
>
> The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
> interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
> for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
>
> I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
> digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
> times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
> encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
> again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
> you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
>
> Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
> think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
> my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
> you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
> it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)
>
> FYI,
> Dick, n0ce
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
The mcHF is nice but it is still a work in progress.
But it does show what can be done.



 Original message 
From: Bob Nielsen  
Date: 2017-03-27  10:46 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Harry Yingst , Elecraft Reflector 
 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV 


The more I look at the mcHF, the more impressed I become.  Once I
  get caught up with my current projects I'll seriously consider
  getting one.  


The FreeDV code and more importantly Codec2 are indeed open
  source.  I don't know how much room there is in the K3/KX3/KX2
  firmware to add something like this but if possible, it would be
  quite useful in getting more FreeDV activity going.  in the
  meantime, I'll make up some cables to connect my KX2 to my SM1000
  and give it a try.
Bob, N7XY




On 3/27/17 6:54 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:



  

There is a different
group working on the firmware now  
http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/ 


  



As I understand it the
  FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would not need to
  reinvent the wheel.








  



  

   
   From:
  Bob Nielsen 

  To:
  Harry Yingst  

  Sent:
  Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM

  Subject:
  Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

 
  


  
Strangely
  the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but
  that's great.  





  On 3/27/17
6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:

  
  

  The
mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and
TX (I'm looking right at it)

  
  

  
  I'm
running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little
old as I have not updated it recently)
  

  
  

  
  



  
  

  

   
   From:
  Bob Nielsen 

  To:
  elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  

  Sent:
  Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM

  Subject:
              Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes,
      specifically DV




  While
the mcHF has some digital audio
circuitry, I don't believe it 

provides a digital voice mode.



FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1
kHz) digital voice mode using the 

open-source Codec2, developed by
VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without
a 

computer using the Rowetel SM1000
adapter 


(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/).
This 

should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3
for portable FreeDV operation.  I 

haven't tried doing that but it
looks fairly straightforward.



Bob, N7XY





  On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst
  via Elecraft wrote:

  >  I would like to see Elecraft
  built it into their firmware.

 

Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
The more I look at the mcHF, the more impressed I become.  Once I get 
caught up with my current projects I'll seriously consider getting one.


The FreeDV code and more importantly Codec2 are indeed open source.  I 
don't know how much room there is in the K3/KX3/KX2 firmware to add 
something like this but if possible, it would be quite useful in getting 
more FreeDV activity going.  in the meantime, I'll make up some cables 
to connect my KX2 to my SM1000 and give it a try.


Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 6:54 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
There is a different group working on the firmware now 
http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/



As I understand it the FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would 
not need to reinvent the wheel.






*From:* Bob Nielsen 
*To:* Harry Yingst 
*Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

Strangely the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but that's great.

On 3/27/17 6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking 
right at it)


I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not 
updated it recently)






*From:* Bob Nielsen  <mailto:n...@n7xy.net>
*To:* elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
*Sent:* Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it
provides a digital voice mode.

FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the
open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a
computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter
(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This
should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I
haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.

Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
> I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it
>
>From: Richard Fjeld <mailto:rpfj...@outlook.com>>
>  To: Elecraft Reflector <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>

>  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
>
> Greetings to all,
>
> The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
> interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
> for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
>
> I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
> digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
> times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
> encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
> again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I 
think

> you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
>
> Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
> think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
> my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
> you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
> it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your 
finals.)

>
> FYI,
> Dick, n0ce
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
There is a different group working on the firmware now  
http://df8oe.github.io/mchf-github/ 

As I understand it the FreeDV code is open source so Elecraft would not need to 
reinvent the wheel.



  From: Bob Nielsen 
 To: Harry Yingst  
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
   
 Strangely the mcHF website doesn't seem to mention it but that's great.  
  
 On 3/27/17 6:15 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
  
  The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking right at it)
  
  I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not updated it 
recently) 
  
  
 
From: Bob Nielsen 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
  
 While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it 
 provides a digital voice mode.
 
 FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the 
 open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a 
 computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter 
 (https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This 
 should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I 
 haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.
 
 Bob, N7XY
 
 
 On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
 >  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
 > I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it
 >
 >        From: Richard Fjeld 
 >  To: Elecraft Reflector 
 >  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
 >  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
 >    
 > Greetings to all,
 >
 > The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
 > interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
 > for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
 >
 > I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
 > digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
 > times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
 > encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
 > again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
 > http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
 > you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
 >
 > Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
 > think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
 > my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
 > you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
 > it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)
 >
 > FYI,
 > Dick, n0ce
 >
 >
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
The mcHF does indeed have FreeDV built in RX and TX (I'm looking right at it)

I'm running ver 1.5.7 of the firmware (Ia little old as I have not updated it 
recently)



  From: Bob Nielsen 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 7:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
   
While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it 
provides a digital voice mode.

FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the 
open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a 
computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter 
(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This 
should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I 
haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.

Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
> I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it
>
>        From: Richard Fjeld 
>  To: Elecraft Reflector 
>  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
>    
> Greetings to all,
>
> The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
> interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
> for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.
>
> I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
> digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
> times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
> encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
> again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
> you will find the reviews interesting and informative.
>
> Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
> think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
> my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
> you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
> it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)
>
> FYI,
> Dick, n0ce
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Bob Nielsen
While the mcHF has some digital audio circuitry, I don't believe it 
provides a digital voice mode.


FreeDV is a very narrow-band (1.1 kHz) digital voice mode using the 
open-source Codec2, developed by VK5DGR.  One can run FreeDV without a 
computer using the Rowetel SM1000 adapter 
(https://www.tindie.com/products/edwin/sm1000-freedv-adpapter/). This 
should work nicely with a KX2 or KX3 for portable FreeDV operation.  I 
haven't tried doing that but it looks fairly straightforward.


Bob, N7XY


On 3/27/17 2:28 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

  I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it

   From: Richard Fjeld 
  To: Elecraft Reflector 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

Greetings to all,


The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of
interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed
for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.

I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for
digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few
times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email
encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date
again, and I found accurate reviews of it on
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think
you will find the reviews interesting and informative.

Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I
think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep
my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether
you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using
it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)

FYI,
Dick, n0ce




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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
 I would like to see Elecraft built it into their firmware.
I have a mcHF QRP radio that has Digital Voice in it

  From: Richard Fjeld 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 2:13 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV
   
Greetings to all,

The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of 
interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed 
for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.

I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for 
digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few 
times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email 
encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date 
again, and I found accurate reviews of it on 
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think 
you will find the reviews interesting and informative.

Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I 
think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep 
my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether 
you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using 
it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)

FYI,
Dick, n0ce


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[Elecraft] K3/K3s; Digital modes, specifically DV

2017-03-27 Thread Richard Fjeld
Greetings to all,

The K3/K3s is an excellent radio for digital modes due to the ease of 
interfacing with a computer if desired.  A computer is not even needed 
for some digital modes, and I have tried that successfully.

I have mentioned in the past that I had tried the free software for 
digital voice on HF called 'FreeDV'.  I had worked a Canadian ham a few 
times using it and he has been keeping in contact with me via email 
encouraging me to get back into it.  I am starting to get up to date 
again, and I found accurate reviews of it on 
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11016   by K2RWF and WA0TPN.  I think 
you will find the reviews interesting and informative.

Notice that the reviews seem to be either at, or near, 5/5 or 0/5. I 
think both of the reviews I mentioned answer why that is.  I will keep 
my experience mute and let you glean aye/nay from the reviews. Whether 
you approve of digital voice or not, the K3/K3s is a natural for using 
it, and it's fun.  (As always with digital modes, be kind to your finals.)

FYI,
Dick, n0ce


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