Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
On 2009-05-14, at 14:26 , Terry Dunlap wrote: I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) I'm the author of the post that Bill (W4ZV) quoted. My experiments with the PowerMate are recent and on-going. I'm considering modifying my software to support more than one PowerMate :-) It's rather handy to be able to change the *receive* frequency while transmitting, without disrupting the transmit frequency or the formation of Morse characters. Some radios severely hose CW if you fiddle with front panel controls while transmitting. The K3 is pretty good about this, but not yet perfect. W4NL noted that the TenTec 315 soft-rubber trim rings fit the K3 VFOA knob nicely. They also fit the PowerMate knob, although not quite as snugly; no comment on color choices. Bill, K1GQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Steve, Mic up/down buttons work on my Icom marine HM107B mic. Function (third) button not yet implemented. How about activating your tuner with it? Or make it freely assignable (even better). 73' Paul PD0PSB Steve Ellington wrote: Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2891974.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Really? How do you activate them? I tried grounding them and got the N/A. Must be another way. I was thinking of rigging up an optical encoder, knob etc. and creating a remote knob like TenTec has. I do have config:mic btn enabled. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: pd0psb p.s.bijp...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons Steve, Mic up/down buttons work on my Icom marine HM107B mic. Function (third) button not yet implemented. How about activating your tuner with it? Or make it freely assignable (even better). 73' Paul PD0PSB Steve Ellington wrote: Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? The manual doesn't make sense. It tells how they are supposed to work and how to enable them in the menu but also says Mic function buttons not supported. Now is the Mic function button the same thing as a mic up/down button? Does not supported mean the same thing as won't work or does it mean might work but we don't support it or does it mean something entirely different. When I try to use them I get a N/A on the display so I assume they work but just don't work correctly and that's the way it's supposed to be. I know this is wordy but so is the manual. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2891974.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Hi Steve, I just enabled in the CONFIG menu,and wired the mic according to schematics. Buttons between up/down line and grounding. Icom uses a resistor scheme for switching so the HM107B had a small rewiring inside. The reaction of up/down btw is not fast! So using an encoder on these lines will probably be kind of sluggish Better to do that by serial data. 73' Paul PD0PSB Really? How do you activate them? I tried grounding them and got the N/A. Must be another way. I was thinking of rigging up an optical encoder, knob etc. and creating a remote knob like TenTec has. I do have config:mic btn enabled. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2894193.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
The mic buttons on my old Kenwood MC-60 work FB. If I were a betting man, I'd bet you have not turned the MIC BTN menu setting to ON. Monty K2DLJ Are the mic. up/down buttons supposed to work or not? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
One of our Field Testers has done this, but I would not be surprised to see Elecraft eventually offer something similar as a standard product. Below are the FT's comments (sans callsign) since I doubt he wants a lot of queries about it. 73, Bill W4ZV On 2008-12-13, at 13:30 , wrote: This is one for the lowest-priority end of the missing-feature list. I built a box with two pushbuttons wired to the DOWN and UP pins on the front panel MIC connector, to simulate a remote VFO A knob. It works nicely: tap to step, hold to scan. But, taps while sending CW via KEY mess up the beautiful dots and dashes (dare I say: just like touching almost any control on an Orion II while sending :=). Strangely, holds do not affect the CW at all. I've just interfaced the Griffin PowerMate multimedia USB control knob with my Mac contest logging program (SkookumLogger). I use it in two modes, controlling either the RIT/XIT offset or VFOA frequency. In either mode, twirling the knob smoothly varies the K3 frequency at a reasonable rate for tuning around a CW run frequency. There's a PowerMate-related issue that I can live with: it operates by pressing command keys for you; if you twirl the knob a lot it queues up all those presses and there is no way to stop it from stubbornly playing back the complete queue. I've also got the PowerMate rigged to clear the offset (copies VFOB to VFOA when controlling VFOA frequency). And one other gesture does a Swap, which is tough to explain in less than a paragraph. Changing the K3 frequency this way does *not* affect CW. I'm now a Happy Ham, no longer waiting for the hoped-for K3 remote control unit :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Mic-up-down-buttons-tp2891198p2896858.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) 73 de Terry KK6T K3# 2965 Bill W4ZV wrote: One of our Field Testers has done this, but I would not be surprised to see Elecraft eventually offer something similar as a standard product. Below are the FT's comments (sans callsign) since I doubt he wants a lot of queries about it. 73, Bill W4ZV On 2008-12-13, at 13:30 , wrote: This is one for the lowest-priority end of the missing-feature list. I built a box with two pushbuttons wired to the DOWN and UP pins on the front panel MIC connector, to simulate a remote VFO A knob. It works nicely: tap to step, hold to scan. But, taps while sending CW via KEY mess up the beautiful dots and dashes (dare I say: just like touching almost any control on an Orion II while sending :=). Strangely, holds do not affect the CW at all. I've just interfaced the Griffin PowerMate multimedia USB control knob with my Mac contest logging program (SkookumLogger). I use it in two modes, controlling either the RIT/XIT offset or VFOA frequency. In either mode, twirling the knob smoothly varies the K3 frequency at a reasonable rate for tuning around a CW run frequency. There's a PowerMate-related issue that I can live with: it operates by pressing command keys for you; if you twirl the knob a lot it queues up all those presses and there is no way to stop it from stubbornly playing back the complete queue. I've also got the PowerMate rigged to clear the offset (copies VFOB to VFOA when controlling VFOA frequency). And one other gesture does a Swap, which is tough to explain in less than a paragraph. Changing the K3 frequency this way does *not* affect CW. I'm now a Happy Ham, no longer waiting for the hoped-for K3 remote control unit :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
terry: Because some folks, like me, must have their PC keyboard to the side of the desk (at 90-degrees from the desk) when contesting... this places the rig at my left side, rather that right in front of me, and requires me to either turn 90-degrees (at least 45 deg. anyway) on order to adjust the VFO, or to bring the radio up close to me and at about a 45-degree angle to the desktop so I can readily reach the VFO dial with a cramped arm position. Using Up/Dn buttons, or something like the Griffin PowerMate would allow us to remotely 'tune' the VFO... having the control right at or next to the keyboard, without having to go into any contortions. 73, Tom N0SS At 01:26 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote: I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) 73 de Terry KK6T K3# 2965 Bill W4ZV wrote: One of our Field Testers has done this, but I would not be surprised to see Elecraft eventually offer something similar as a standard product. Below are the FT's comments (sans callsign) since I doubt he wants a lot of queries about it. 73, Bill W4ZV On 2008-12-13, at 13:30 , wrote: This is one for the lowest-priority end of the missing-feature list. I built a box with two pushbuttons wired to the DOWN and UP pins on the front panel MIC connector, to simulate a remote VFO A knob. It works nicely: tap to step, hold to scan. But, taps while sending CW via KEY mess up the beautiful dots and dashes (dare I say: just like touching almost any control on an Orion II while sending :=). Strangely, holds do not affect the CW at all. I've just interfaced the Griffin PowerMate multimedia USB control knob with my Mac contest logging program (SkookumLogger). I use it in two modes, controlling either the RIT/XIT offset or VFOA frequency. In either mode, twirling the knob smoothly varies the K3 frequency at a reasonable rate for tuning around a CW run frequency. There's a PowerMate-related issue that I can live with: it operates by pressing command keys for you; if you twirl the knob a lot it queues up all those presses and there is no way to stop it from stubbornly playing back the complete queue. I've also got the PowerMate rigged to clear the offset (copies VFOB to VFOA when controlling VFOA frequency). And one other gesture does a Swap, which is tough to explain in less than a paragraph. Changing the K3 frequency this way does *not* affect CW. I'm now a Happy Ham, no longer waiting for the hoped-for K3 remote control unit :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Well maybe not exactly while transmitting unless one needs to make the CFO chicken cluck sound. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Terry Dunlap te...@kk6t.com To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) 73 de Terry KK6T K3# 2965 Bill W4ZV wrote: One of our Field Testers has done this, but I would not be surprised to see Elecraft eventually offer something similar as a standard product. Below are the FT's comments (sans callsign) since I doubt he wants a lot of queries about it. 73, Bill W4ZV On 2008-12-13, at 13:30 , wrote: This is one for the lowest-priority end of the missing-feature list. I built a box with two pushbuttons wired to the DOWN and UP pins on the front panel MIC connector, to simulate a remote VFO A knob. It works nicely: tap to step, hold to scan. But, taps while sending CW via KEY mess up the beautiful dots and dashes (dare I say: just like touching almost any control on an Orion II while sending :=). Strangely, holds do not affect the CW at all. I've just interfaced the Griffin PowerMate multimedia USB control knob with my Mac contest logging program (SkookumLogger). I use it in two modes, controlling either the RIT/XIT offset or VFOA frequency. In either mode, twirling the knob smoothly varies the K3 frequency at a reasonable rate for tuning around a CW run frequency. There's a PowerMate-related issue that I can live with: it operates by pressing command keys for you; if you twirl the knob a lot it queues up all those presses and there is no way to stop it from stubbornly playing back the complete queue. I've also got the PowerMate rigged to clear the offset (copies VFOB to VFOA when controlling VFOA frequency). And one other gesture does a Swap, which is tough to explain in less than a paragraph. Changing the K3 frequency this way does *not* affect CW. I'm now a Happy Ham, no longer waiting for the hoped-for K3 remote control unit :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
Terry: Generally NOT while transmitting, but sometimes, esp. while QRP (e.g in ARRL CW SS) I'll find that I'm smack on top of (well... UNDER) a bigger signal, making it hard for the other guy to hear me... if I jump freq. even a small bit while NOT trans- mitting, the other guy might miss me, but if I 'slide' up/dn a bit while sending my (or his) call at the start of my reply, he'll usually follow me and we can complete the QSO... I seldom move more than 100 Hz (ever) when I do this, but having a signal actually being transmitter (for him to hear/follow) seems to help to ensure that he is able to track where I've gone.. otherwise, to have moved (possibly out of his (very narrow) B/W setting with no signal for him to track, results in a lost QSO. 73, Tom N0SS At 01:40 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote: Hi Tom, I can understand the remote tune feature but why would you be doing that WHILE you're transmitting? 73 de Terry KK6T Tom Hammond wrote: terry: Because some folks, like me, must have their PC keyboard to the side of the desk (at 90-degrees from the desk) when contesting... this places the rig at my left side, rather that right in front of me, and requires me to either turn 90-degrees (at least 45 deg. anyway) on order to adjust the VFO, or to bring the radio up close to me and at about a 45-degree angle to the desktop so I can readily reach the VFO dial with a cramped arm position. Using Up/Dn buttons, or something like the Griffin PowerMate would allow us to remotely 'tune' the VFO... having the control right at or next to the keyboard, without having to go into any contortions. 73, Tom N0SS At 01:26 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote: I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) 73 de Terry KK6T K3# 2965 Bill W4ZV wrote: One of our Field Testers has done this, but I would not be surprised to see Elecraft eventually offer something similar as a standard product. Below are the FT's comments (sans callsign) since I doubt he wants a lot of queries about it. 73, Bill W4ZV On 2008-12-13, at 13:30 , wrote: This is one for the lowest-priority end of the missing-feature list. I built a box with two pushbuttons wired to the DOWN and UP pins on the front panel MIC connector, to simulate a remote VFO A knob. It works nicely: tap to step, hold to scan. But, taps while sending CW via KEY mess up the beautiful dots and dashes (dare I say: just like touching almost any control on an Orion II while sending :=). Strangely, holds do not affect the CW at all. I've just interfaced the Griffin PowerMate multimedia USB control knob with my Mac contest logging program (SkookumLogger). I use it in two modes, controlling either the RIT/XIT offset or VFOA frequency. In either mode, twirling the knob smoothly varies the K3 frequency at a reasonable rate for tuning around a CW run frequency. There's a PowerMate-related issue that I can live with: it operates by pressing command keys for you; if you twirl the knob a lot it queues up all those presses and there is no way to stop it from stubbornly playing back the complete queue. I've also got the PowerMate rigged to clear the offset (copies VFOB to VFOA when controlling VFOA frequency). And one other gesture does a Swap, which is tough to explain in less than a paragraph. Changing the K3 frequency this way does *not* affect CW. I'm now a Happy Ham, no longer waiting for the hoped-for K3 remote control unit :-) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Mic up down buttons
I must be missing something here. For the life of my I can't figure why you would want to be changing frequency while transmitting CW (or any other mode) It is a requirement for using most Amateur satellites as you correct for Doppler shift on the uplink. 73, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
