Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread lmarion
I just purchased my K3 line in the last month, and did not know about the 
KAT turn on issue, nor did I see any documentation about turn on procedure.
So, from the first use I have turned on the K3 then the P3, KAT500 and 
KPA500, with zero issues.


Since powering on my KX3 turns on the PX3 and KXPA100/KXAT100  by menu 
selection, I assumed there was a similar menu option on the K3 line.


It seems not to be, at least I have not found it,  but I would like it if it 
did. Maybe it can be a firmware request?


73 Leroy AB7CE



-Original Message- 
From: Wes Stewart

Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:59 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

Hmm.  Never noticed this since I've always kept power on the KAT500.  But it
does as it says...some of the time.

At my age, I'm not going to turn this into another time wasting science 
project,

but it seems to also depend on the state of the KPA500 (which the K3 weirdly
turns on and off with alternate power on cycles).  And I think it's not
dependent on the ON/OFF state of the KAT500 but whether or not there is 
power

"applied" to the KAT500.

Wes  N7WS

On 6/19/2016 7:00 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014


* KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is 
pulling the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON 
KAT500" is displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 
without explanation.





From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Jim Sheldon 
<w...@cox.net>

Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

   If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it.  Left the KAT500
off, powered up the K3S and no errors.  Then powered on the KAT500 and
it all worked just fine.  Guess I'll have to look back through the
"release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed
it.

Jim - W0EB
-- Original Message --
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?


Was there an announcement that this was fixed?

On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread Wes Stewart
Hmm.  Never noticed this since I've always kept power on the KAT500.  But it 
does as it says...some of the time.


At my age, I'm not going to turn this into another time wasting science project, 
but it seems to also depend on the state of the KPA500 (which the K3 weirdly 
turns on and off with alternate power on cycles).  And I think it's not 
dependent on the ON/OFF state of the KAT500 but whether or not there is power 
"applied" to the KAT500.


Wes  N7WS

On 6/19/2016 7:00 AM, Cady, Fred wrote:

MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014


* KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is pulling the auxBus 
signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON KAT500" is displayed. 
Previously this condition would lock up the K3 without explanation.




From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Jim Sheldon 
<w...@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

   If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it.  Left the KAT500
off, powered up the K3S and no errors.  Then powered on the KAT500 and
it all worked just fine.  Guess I'll have to look back through the
"release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed
it.

Jim - W0EB
-- Original Message --
From: "Wes Stewart" <wes_n...@triconet.org>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?


Was there an announcement that this was fixed?

On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread Cady, Fred
MCU 4.93 / DSP 2.83, 10-16-2014


* KAT500 POWER-ON REMINDER ON K3 DISPLAY: If a powered-off KAT500 is pulling 
the auxBus signal low when the K3 is first turned on, "TURN ON KAT500" is 
displayed. Previously this condition would lock up the K3 without explanation.




From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Jim Sheldon 
<w...@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:55 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

  If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it.  Left the KAT500
off, powered up the K3S and no errors.  Then powered on the KAT500 and
it all worked just fine.  Guess I'll have to look back through the
"release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed
it.

Jim - W0EB
-- Original Message --
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

>Was there an announcement that this was fixed?
>
>On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:
>>Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Fred
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread Jim Sheldon
 If there way, I never saw it -- but I just tested it.  Left the KAT500 
off, powered up the K3S and no errors.  Then powered on the KAT500 and 
it all worked just fine.  Guess I'll have to look back through the 
"release notes" on the KAT500 firmware releases to see which one fixed 
it.


Jim - W0EB
-- Original Message --
From: "Wes Stewart" <wes_n...@triconet.org>
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 6/19/2016 8:39:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?


Was there an announcement that this was fixed?

On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread Cady, Fred
Right.  It doesn't.



From: David Bunte <dpbu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:57 PM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: KE8G; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?


I don't understand how that turns on the KPA500.

Dave - K9FN

On Jun 18, 2016 8:50 PM, "Cady, Fred" 
<fc...@montana.edu<mailto:fc...@montana.edu>> wrote:
Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred



From: KE8G <k...@cox.net<mailto:k...@cox.net>>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

Doesn't that present a problem?  I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be 
powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am 
stuck in the past?

73 de Jim - KE8G

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> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred 
> <fc...@montana.edu<mailto:fc...@montana.edu>> wrote:
>
>
> I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a 
> current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred KE7X
>
>
> For all KE7X Elecraft books, see 
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>
>
> 
> From: Elecraft 
> <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net<mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net>> 
> on behalf of lmarion <lmar...@mt.net<mailto:lmar...@mt.net>>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
>
> Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
> power on the K3S ?
>
> Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-19 Thread Wes Stewart

Was there an announcement that this was fixed?

On 6/18/2016 5:49 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:

Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred




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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread David Bunte
I don't understand how that turns on the KPA500.

Dave - K9FN
On Jun 18, 2016 8:50 PM, "Cady, Fred" <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:

> Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred
>
>
> 
> From: KE8G <k...@cox.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM
> To: Cady, Fred
> Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
>
> Doesn't that present a problem?  I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be
> powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I
> am stuck in the past?
>
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it
> detects a current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Fred KE7X
> >
> >
> > For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>.
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of lmarion <
> lmar...@mt.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM
> > To: Elecraft Reflector
> > Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
> >
> > Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500
> when you power on the K3S ?
> >
> > Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread Cady, Fred
Yeah, that has been fixed but it worked before it was fixed.

Cheers,

Fred



From: KE8G <k...@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:28 PM
To: Cady, Fred
Cc: lmarion; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

Doesn't that present a problem?  I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be 
powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am 
stuck in the past?

73 de Jim - KE8G

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
>
>
> I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a 
> current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Fred KE7X
>
>
> For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>.
>
>
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of lmarion 
> <lmar...@mt.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
>
> Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
> power on the K3S ?
>
> Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread Gary
I must admit that when field testing the kat500, turning on the k3 DID cause a 
real issue, not heard of any change to that.
However, the other day I turned the k3 on before I noticed the kat500 was not 
powered up.
Thinking, oh what the heck, I hit the power on and all was well.
Not wishing to create an issue, I powered both off and powered up in my normal 
way.
Does this mean it doesn't matter which is powered first?...i have no info to go 
by.
Perhaps Wayne may offer his thoughts, without his confirmation I will stick 
with my old method for now.
Gary

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Sent: ‎19/‎06/‎2016 10:29 AM
To: "Cady, Fred" <fc...@montana.edu>
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

Doesn't that present a problem?  I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be 
powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am 
stuck in the past?

73 de Jim - KE8G

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a 
> current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Fred KE7X
> 
> 
> For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of lmarion 
> <lmar...@mt.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
> 
> Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
> power on the K3S ?
> 
> Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread KE8G
Doesn't that present a problem?  I thought the KAT500 was supposed to be 
powered up before turning on the K3, or has that somehow been changed and I am 
stuck in the past?

73 de Jim - KE8G

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 18, 2016, at 7:15 PM, Cady, Fred <fc...@montana.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a 
> current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Fred KE7X
> 
> 
> For all KE7X Elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com<http://www.ke7x.com>.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of lmarion 
> <lmar...@mt.net>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 1:26 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?
> 
> Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
> power on the K3S ?
> 
> Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread Cady, Fred

I use a rigrunner 4010S that has 10 outlets and one that, when it detects a 
current draw from turning on the K3, turns on all the others.

Cheers,

Fred KE7X


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From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of lmarion 
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3S master power?

Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
power on the K3S ?

Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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[Elecraft] K3S master power?

2016-06-18 Thread lmarion
Is there a K3S setting that will power on the  P3, KAT500 and KPA500 when you 
power on the K3S ?

Thanks either way, Leroy AB7CE
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