Re: [Elecraft] K4 missing features

2023-12-11 Thread G4GNX
Maybe it depends on the individual setup.

Despite using a steerable double mag-loop for RX, the urban noise is 
horrendous. I don’t find the K3S NR to be particularly good and I’ve placed a 
BHI Parametric Equaliser NR box in line. For me, it doesn’t do a great deal - 
except for one day last week, where the signal I wanted was strong (S9) and 
about equal to the ambient noise. I then found that I could null out the noise 
entirely with the BHI unit, giving me near armchair copy. When the wanted 
signal is below S9, noise reduction results in degradation of the wanted audio 
to a point where the NR is non-effective.

Currently, I find the K4D noise reduction works quite well, albeit using a 
different RX antenna.

As Wayne has already stated Q1 2024 and we’re not there yet, why would you 
expect a different answer at this point?

73,
Alan - G4GNX
South Coast UK
Elecraft K4D / KPA500 / KAT500 / IC-9700


> 
> 
> On 11/12/2023 3:45, Tim Tucker wrote:
>> I got tired of waiting for special subtraction NR and decided to do
>> something about the lousy K4 NR on SSB. I bought the BHI Dual Inline NR
>> module and the results are impressive. I will publish a video soon. Anyone
>> who says that better NR won't help you make more weak signal contacts,
>> especially if you're in the big city, doesn't know what they are talking
>> about on this subject. That plus the decreased fatigue factor...
>> The last thing we heard from Wayne about missing features was that the
>> Remote Software would be released as Beta in Q1 2024. Every other ask about
>> other features has been met with radio silence for months. Expect more of
>> the same at this point.
>> Tim

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 missing features, was OT: The 4-track mind

2023-12-10 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Can anyone comment on whether this is also useful on CW? In particular, 
as compared to the K3 NR.


73, Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 11/12/2023 3:45, Tim Tucker wrote:

I got tired of waiting for special subtraction NR and decided to do
something about the lousy K4 NR on SSB. I bought the BHI Dual Inline NR
module and the results are impressive. I will publish a video soon. Anyone
who says that better NR won't help you make more weak signal contacts,
especially if you're in the big city, doesn't know what they are talking
about on this subject. That plus the decreased fatigue factor...

The last thing we heard from Wayne about missing features was that the
Remote Software would be released as Beta in Q1 2024. Every other ask about
other features has been met with radio silence for months. Expect more of
the same at this point.

Tim

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 11:34 AM George Danner  wrote:


4. Transmit Monitor

73 George AI4VZ

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 11:29 AM Dave  wrote:


Wayne, if you can return to a single track mind for a moment, any update

on

when the K4 missing features will be finished?

In no particular order:
1. General coverage, the button still does nothing.
2. Pre-distortion
3. Remote operation via Ethernet

In addition, with the K3 there was an update to the firmware which

allowed

VOX to be turned off when the radio was turned off/on. I keep forgetting
and accidentally catching my paddles on my K4...

Now that higher data rates have been approved for the USA, any chance of
fixing the issue where the K4 struggles with Pactor (dropping PTT results
in truncated data transmissions due to TX to RX timing issue), The fix is
to add a 20 mS PTT hold on delay and consider speeding up the throughput

to

reduce latency too. The same issue with the K3 was fixed in a week of

being

reported.

73 Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 missing features, was OT: The 4-track mind

2023-12-10 Thread Tim Tucker
I got tired of waiting for special subtraction NR and decided to do
something about the lousy K4 NR on SSB. I bought the BHI Dual Inline NR
module and the results are impressive. I will publish a video soon. Anyone
who says that better NR won't help you make more weak signal contacts,
especially if you're in the big city, doesn't know what they are talking
about on this subject. That plus the decreased fatigue factor...

The last thing we heard from Wayne about missing features was that the
Remote Software would be released as Beta in Q1 2024. Every other ask about
other features has been met with radio silence for months. Expect more of
the same at this point.

Tim

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 11:34 AM George Danner  wrote:

> 4. Transmit Monitor
>
> 73 George AI4VZ
>
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 11:29 AM Dave  wrote:
>
> > Wayne, if you can return to a single track mind for a moment, any update
> on
> > when the K4 missing features will be finished?
> >
> > In no particular order:
> > 1. General coverage, the button still does nothing.
> > 2. Pre-distortion
> > 3. Remote operation via Ethernet
> >
> > In addition, with the K3 there was an update to the firmware which
> allowed
> > VOX to be turned off when the radio was turned off/on. I keep forgetting
> > and accidentally catching my paddles on my K4...
> >
> > Now that higher data rates have been approved for the USA, any chance of
> > fixing the issue where the K4 struggles with Pactor (dropping PTT results
> > in truncated data transmissions due to TX to RX timing issue), The fix is
> > to add a 20 mS PTT hold on delay and consider speeding up the throughput
> to
> > reduce latency too. The same issue with the K3 was fixed in a week of
> being
> > reported.
> >
> > 73 Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 missing features, was OT: The 4-track mind

2023-12-10 Thread George Danner
4. Transmit Monitor

73 George AI4VZ

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 11:29 AM Dave  wrote:

> Wayne, if you can return to a single track mind for a moment, any update on
> when the K4 missing features will be finished?
>
> In no particular order:
> 1. General coverage, the button still does nothing.
> 2. Pre-distortion
> 3. Remote operation via Ethernet
>
> In addition, with the K3 there was an update to the firmware which allowed
> VOX to be turned off when the radio was turned off/on. I keep forgetting
> and accidentally catching my paddles on my K4...
>
> Now that higher data rates have been approved for the USA, any chance of
> fixing the issue where the K4 struggles with Pactor (dropping PTT results
> in truncated data transmissions due to TX to RX timing issue), The fix is
> to add a 20 mS PTT hold on delay and consider speeding up the throughput to
> reduce latency too. The same issue with the K3 was fixed in a week of being
> reported.
>
> 73 Dave
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[Elecraft] K4 missing features, was OT: The 4-track mind

2023-12-10 Thread Dave
Wayne, if you can return to a single track mind for a moment, any update on
when the K4 missing features will be finished?

In no particular order:
1. General coverage, the button still does nothing.
2. Pre-distortion
3. Remote operation via Ethernet

In addition, with the K3 there was an update to the firmware which allowed
VOX to be turned off when the radio was turned off/on. I keep forgetting
and accidentally catching my paddles on my K4...

Now that higher data rates have been approved for the USA, any chance of
fixing the issue where the K4 struggles with Pactor (dropping PTT results
in truncated data transmissions due to TX to RX timing issue), The fix is
to add a 20 mS PTT hold on delay and consider speeding up the throughput to
reduce latency too. The same issue with the K3 was fixed in a week of being
reported.

73 Dave
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