Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-06 Thread j...@kk9a.com
Thanks to all that responded to my question regarding the age of a KPA500
that I purchased last week. I received a lot of useful clues to the age of
this amp, amazingly one guy in Sweden had a KPA500 with a serial number
only 20 units higher. As I suspected, this amp was no where near one year
old as advertised and the seller has been unresponsive since 2 July when I
questioned him on the age. He was either mistaken or attempted fraud. If
mistaken and responsive we probably could have worked something out. To
those that stated there is nothing that ages in the amp and that there
have been few updates, I could not care less. I do not do business this
way, the amp has been shipped back and I have demanded a refund.

73,
John


On Tue, July 5, 2016 3:11 pm, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
older.

John KK9A



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-06 Thread efortner
I purchased one in September of 2015  and SN is 1783.
Earl, K4KAY

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From: Elecraft [On Behalf Of Phil Wheeler
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 5:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

My KPA500 S/N 19XX arrived in spring of 2014 so, a bit over two years ago.

But I doubt any unit as recent as 1300 will have any age-related design
deficiencies vs. a new KPA500.

Phil W7OX

On 7/5/16 1:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> And that indicates what exactly?  Each item in the K-LINE has its own
serial number series starting with "0001", except the K3S which started at
"10001". There might be some zeros out there but I think these were not
actually sold to customers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Harlan Sherriff <hsherr...@reagan.com> wrote:
>>
>> John,
>> All I can say is my P3 is sn 2397 and the invoice shows a date of
11/21/2012.
>>
>> Harlan
>> K4HES
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:11 PM, "j...@kk9a.com" <j...@kk9a.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone 
>>> here can give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the
low 1300s.
>>> The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is 
>>> much older.
>>>
>>> John KK9A

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Harlan Sherriff
Oops. I read the question correctly, but appears I didn't engage brain.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Phil Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> My KPA500 S/N 19XX arrived in spring of 2014 so, a bit over two years ago.
> 
> But I doubt any unit as recent as 1300 will have any age-related design 
> deficiencies vs. a new KPA500.
> 
> Phil W7OX
> 
>> On 7/5/16 1:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> And that indicates what exactly?  Each item in the K-LINE has its own serial 
>> number series starting with "0001", except the K3S which started at "10001". 
>> There might be some zeros out there but I think these were not actually sold 
>> to customers.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Harlan Sherriff  wrote:
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> All I can say is my P3 is sn 2397 and the invoice shows a date of 
>>> 11/21/2012.
>>> 
>>> Harlan
>>> K4HES
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:11 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
 
 I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
 give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
 The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
 older.
 
 John KK9A
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Fred Jensen
I would agree that there is very little if anything in a KPA500 to 
deteriorate solely from age, unless we're talking about hundreds of 
years.  That said, perhaps John is concerned that, if the seller is not 
being truthful about the age, he may not be truthful about other things 
as well, such as abuse.  Just a guess, I suspect I'd be concerned.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 7/5/2016 2:24 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

My KPA500 S/N 19XX arrived in spring of 2014 so, a bit over two years ago.

But I doubt any unit as recent as 1300 will have any age-related design
deficiencies vs. a new KPA500.

Phil W7OX


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Phil Wheeler
My KPA500 S/N 19XX arrived in spring of 2014 so, a 
bit over two years ago.


But I doubt any unit as recent as 1300 will have 
any age-related design deficiencies vs. a new KPA500.


Phil W7OX

On 7/5/16 1:58 PM, Nr4c wrote:

And that indicates what exactly?  Each item in the K-LINE has its own serial number series starting 
with "0001", except the K3S which started at "10001". There might be some zeros 
out there but I think these were not actually sold to customers.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Harlan Sherriff  wrote:

John,
All I can say is my P3 is sn 2397 and the invoice shows a date of 11/21/2012.

Harlan
K4HES

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:11 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:

I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
older.

John KK9A


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Nr4c
And that indicates what exactly?  Each item in the K-LINE has its own serial 
number series starting with "0001", except the K3S which started at "10001". 
There might be some zeros out there but I think these were not actually sold to 
customers. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jul 5, 2016, at 4:26 PM, Harlan Sherriff  wrote:
> 
> John,
> All I can say is my P3 is sn 2397 and the invoice shows a date of 11/21/2012.
> 
> Harlan 
> K4HES
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:11 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
>> give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
>> The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
>> older.
>> 
>> John KK9A
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Mark E. Musick
John,
I purchased KPA500 serial #1523 in February 2014. It was one of the amps
that went on the T33A dxpedition in November 2013. Of the five amps on that
dxpedition 4 were in the low 1500s and one was in the low 1200s. I don't
know why they had one that had a much lower serial number than the others.
The dxpedition coordinator did tell me they got the amps about a year before
the dxpedition. So that puts my serial number in late 2012 or early 2013.
Elecraft provided the K3s and KPA500s on the dxpedition.
There should be no worry about the serial number or age of a KPA500. Unlike
the K3 that had many mods over its productive life, I can only think of one
mod on the KPA500 and that was to the 12 meter bandpass filter. There were
issues with some KPA500s on 12 and the upgrade fixed that. My KPA500 did not
experience the problem, but I had it upgraded in July 2014 just to be safe.
Other than that one upgrade, and you might ask if he has had it done, a low
serial number 1300 should be as good as one off the line today.
If the amp has not had the upgrade you can get the parts from Elecraft and
do it yourself or send the RF deck to Elecraft and they will do it for you.
You do not have to send the complete amp with power supply back to
California. All they need is the RF deck. This saves lots on shipping.

Mark Musick, WB9CIF

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Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much older.

John KK9A

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread Harlan Sherriff
John,
All I can say is my P3 is sn 2397 and the invoice shows a date of 11/21/2012.

Harlan 
K4HES

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 5, 2016, at 3:11 PM, "j...@kk9a.com"  wrote:
> 
> I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
> give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
> The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
> older.
> 
> John KK9A
> 
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[Elecraft] KPA500 age

2016-07-05 Thread j...@kk9a.com
I hate to bother Elecraft with this question, I am hoping someone here can
give me an age estimate of a KPA500 with a serial number in the low 1300s.
The seller claims that it is a year old and I suspect that it is much
older.

John KK9A

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