[Elecraft] KX3 I/Q Sidetone with NaP3

2012-09-15 Thread Jim - W6VAR
I've noticed that the CW sidetone always comes in above the VFO frequency or
the VFO +- the CW pitch by the amount of the pitch.

For instance, if the VFO is set to 7.040.000 and the pitch is set to 600 on
the KX3 and in the Options tab of NaP3, the sidetone shows in the waterfall
at 7.040.600. If I adjust the pitch in NaP3 up say, 2K, the grey bar
indicating where NaP3 is tuned moves up 2K, but the sidetone now shows at
7.042.600 and is not in the NaP3 audio.

I've tried setting to auto as well, but it appears no different.

Does anyone know if:
1. This is a NaP3 bug
2. The KX3 is injecting the sidetone into the I/Q off frequency by the pitch
3. The unthinkable, I'm thinking about his all wrong and this is precisely
the way it is supposed to be :)

Tnx,

Jim



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q Sidetone with NaP3

2012-09-15 Thread Matt Maguire
It's option 3 :-)

When you select CW mode, the KX3 will not set the frequency of its local 
oscillator to be the same as what it displays on the screen, but will offset it 
by an amount corresponding to your preferred sidetone pitch (eg. 600Hz). This 
way, when a CW signal at the frequency shown on the display is mixed with the 
local oscillator, you get a 600Hz tone.

On transmit, the KX3 will generate a signal equal to the frequency shown on the 
display.

So, in order to zero beat a signal, you tune the incoming signal so that it 
has the same pitch as your sidetone. On the waterfall, the signal will be 
offset from centre by the pitch of your sidetone.

73, Matt VK2ACL

On 16/09/2012, at 4:26 AM, Jim - W6VAR w6...@comcast.net wrote:

 I've noticed that the CW sidetone always comes in above the VFO frequency or
 the VFO +- the CW pitch by the amount of the pitch.
 
 For instance, if the VFO is set to 7.040.000 and the pitch is set to 600 on
 the KX3 and in the Options tab of NaP3, the sidetone shows in the waterfall
 at 7.040.600. If I adjust the pitch in NaP3 up say, 2K, the grey bar
 indicating where NaP3 is tuned moves up 2K, but the sidetone now shows at
 7.042.600 and is not in the NaP3 audio.
 
 I've tried setting to auto as well, but it appears no different.
 
 Does anyone know if:
 1. This is a NaP3 bug
 2. The KX3 is injecting the sidetone into the I/Q off frequency by the pitch
 3. The unthinkable, I'm thinking about his all wrong and this is precisely
 the way it is supposed to be :)
 
 Tnx,
 
 Jim
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 I/Q Sidetone with NaP3

2012-09-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Matt,

While what you say is the way it operates, NaP3 should indicate the 
carrier at the same frequency as the KX3 display.

I have not yet used NaP3 with the KX3, but it is correct for the K3.  So 
maybe there should be an update (and additional transceiver selection) 
for the KX3.  I have not seen posts from Pete in several weeks, so I 
don't know the support status of NaP3.

There are others - TRX-Pan, PowerSDR-IF, HPSDR as starters for the 
list.  Maybe one of those do it better for the KX3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/15/2012 6:24 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:
 It's option 3 :-)

 When you select CW mode, the KX3 will not set the frequency of its local 
 oscillator to be the same as what it displays on the screen, but will offset 
 it by an amount corresponding to your preferred sidetone pitch (eg. 600Hz). 
 This way, when a CW signal at the frequency shown on the display is mixed 
 with the local oscillator, you get a 600Hz tone.

 On transmit, the KX3 will generate a signal equal to the frequency shown on 
 the display.

 So, in order to zero beat a signal, you tune the incoming signal so that it 
 has the same pitch as your sidetone. On the waterfall, the signal will be 
 offset from centre by the pitch of your sidetone.

 73, Matt VK2ACL


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