Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread David Gilbert


That was needlessly snide and nit picky.

Dave   AB7E


On 02/06/2023 11:36 AM Lee Hiers  wrote:


CW = continuous wave, an unmodulated carrier

CW <> Morse code, although many take it to mean that these days.  One doesn't "learn 
CW", one "learns Morse code".



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread JEROME SODUS
Please disregard my post as I have "re-found" the answer.
Long story short...I started this activity some six months ago and had to stop 
for personal reasons.
I had simply forgotten that Ray K2ULR had provided the answer back then.
When I realized it, I tried to stop my post but Keith WE6R emailed me that 
there is no way to do that.
Apologies for taking up the bandwidth.
88 jerry km3k


> On 02/06/2023 11:36 AM Lee Hiers  wrote:
> 
> 
> CW = continuous wave, an unmodulated carrier
> 
> CW <> Morse code, although many take it to mean that these days.  One 
> doesn't "learn CW", one "learns Morse code".
> 
> Do you have a watt meter between the KX3 and the loop?
> 
> 73 de Lee, AA4GA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:14 AM JEROME SODUS  mailto:jso...@comcast.net > wrote:
> 
> > > Hello,
> > 
> > My question is about the "TUNE" selection (half second hold of the 
> > XMIT button).
> > 
> > The manual's wording is
> > "TUNE is used to put out a CW signal at the power level selected by 
> > the __ PWR control.".
> > 
> > Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
> > But, in this instance, am I correct in thinking it stands for 
> > "continuous wave" or, in other words, an unmodulated FM signal (constant 
> > carrier and
> > amplitude)?
> > 
> > The reason for my email is
> > I am setting up a Magnetic-Loop-Antenna that has a "remote tuning" 
> > capability and that "remote tuning" set-up is not going very well for me.
> > If the KX3 is putting out a continuous wave, then there is a 
> > serious problem with the "remote tuning" box.
> > 
> > TIA for any reply.
> > 73 jerry km3k
> > KX3 #6088
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread Jim Brown

On 2/6/2023 9:47 AM, K9ZTV wrote:

CW never means Morse Code.   It means continuous wave or carrier wave (used 
interchangeably).

Morse-type Code occurs only when a continuous wave is turned on and off to 
represent letters, numbers, and punctuation according to a given language's 
agreed upon chart of correlation.


Kent,

You're technically correct, but for the 67 years I've been a ham, "CW" 
has meant Morse code on the ham bands. This has, indeed, led to 
misunderstandings about the bandwidth of Morse transmission. A constant 
carrier has near zero bandwidth. Morse transmission occupies hundreds of 
Hz in a GOOD transmitter.


And Morse operation on the ham bands is 100% amplitude modulation of a 
carrier by a train of rectangular waves, which in poorly designed rigs 
produces intermodulation distortion in the RF signal chain, sidebands 
that are heard as key clicks. In general, the strength of sidebands is 
proportional to the speed of the transitions from on to off and off to 
on -- the faster the transition, the stronger the clicks. One of the 
many virtues of Elecraft rigs beginning with the original K3 is that 
these transitions are carefully shaped to minimize clicks while 
maximizing readability.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread K9ZTV
Let's get our nomenclature right ...

CW never means Morse Code.   It means continuous wave or carrier wave (used 
interchangeably).

Morse-type Code occurs only when a continuous wave is turned on and off to 
represent letters, numbers, and punctuation according to a given language's 
agreed upon chart of correlation.

CW is a mode of transmission.  Morse Code is an application using that mode.

73,
Kent
K9ZTV



> On Feb 6, 2023, at 10:15 AM, an Amateur Extra wrote:
> 
> Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread Mike Dodd

On 2/4/2023 1:46 PM, JEROME SODUS wrote:


Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
But, in this instance, am I correct in thinking it stands for "continuous wave" 
or, in other words, an unmodulated FM signal (constant carrier and
amplitude)?


Yes; "CONTINUOUS wave."

It's not really an unmodulated "FM" signal; it's an unmodulated carrier. 
There's no reason to assign an arbitrary modulation designation -- why 
not say it's an unmodulated FSK or PSK signal?


--- Mike N4CF

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread Walter Underwood
You are correct, it puts out a plain carrier, CW with the key held down.

wunder
K6WRU
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CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)

> On Feb 4, 2023, at 10:46 AM, JEROME SODUS  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My question is about the "TUNE" selection (half second hold of the XMIT 
> button).
> 
> The manual's wording is
> "TUNE is used to put out a CW signal at the power level selected by the __ 
> PWR control.".
> 
> Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
> But, in this instance, am I correct in thinking it stands for "continuous 
> wave" or, in other words, an unmodulated FM signal (constant carrier and
> amplitude)?
> 
> The reason for my email is
> I am setting up a Magnetic-Loop-Antenna that has a "remote tuning" capability 
> and that "remote tuning" set-up is not going very well for me.
> If the KX3 is putting out a continuous wave, then there is a serious problem 
> with the "remote tuning" box.
> 
> TIA for any reply.
> 73 jerry km3k
> KX3 #6088
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread Lee Hiers
CW = continuous wave, an unmodulated carrier

CW <> Morse code, although many take it to mean that these days.  One
doesn't "learn CW", one "learns Morse code".

Do you have a watt meter between the KX3 and the loop?

73 de Lee, AA4GA




On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 11:14 AM JEROME SODUS  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> My question is about the "TUNE" selection (half second hold of the XMIT
> button).
>
> The manual's wording is
> "TUNE is used to put out a CW signal at the power level selected by the __
> PWR control.".
>
> Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
> But, in this instance, am I correct in thinking it stands for "continuous
> wave" or, in other words, an unmodulated FM signal (constant carrier and
> amplitude)?
>
> The reason for my email is
> I am setting up a Magnetic-Loop-Antenna that has a "remote tuning"
> capability and that "remote tuning" set-up is not going very well for me.
> If the KX3 is putting out a continuous wave, then there is a serious
> problem with the "remote tuning" box.
>
> TIA for any reply.
> 73 jerry km3k
> KX3 #6088
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[Elecraft] KX3 manual page 14 regardincg "TUNE".

2023-02-06 Thread JEROME SODUS
Hello,

My question is about the "TUNE" selection (half second hold of the XMIT button).

The manual's wording is
"TUNE is used to put out a CW signal at the power level selected by the __ PWR 
control.".

Normally, "CW" means morse-code.
But, in this instance, am I correct in thinking it stands for "continuous wave" 
or, in other words, an unmodulated FM signal (constant carrier and
amplitude)?

The reason for my email is
I am setting up a Magnetic-Loop-Antenna that has a "remote tuning" capability 
and that "remote tuning" set-up is not going very well for me.
If the KX3 is putting out a continuous wave, then there is a serious problem 
with the "remote tuning" box.

TIA for any reply.
73 jerry km3k
KX3 #6088
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-10 Thread Bob N3MNT
The nice thing about the PDF manual is you can have it on your phone or
tablet and it is always with you.  Also you can search it.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-09 Thread K8TE
Actually, you can update the PDF version of Elecraft manuals.  This is a
great (IMHO) way to keep track of firmware changes.  I can carry all the
annotated manuals with me during portable/mobile expeditions for the
eventuality of a memory failure (mine, not the rigs').  It also saves a lot
of trees.  I always know where to find my PDF copies and really dislike most
paperwork, except for the awesome KE7X books.

I tried doing this with the IC-7610 manual, but it was not allowed.  I would
add this to the K3s vs. IC-7610 comparison chart as an Elecraft benefit. 
BTW, I have the 7610 manual to help a friend who bought one.  His radio is
back at Icom for what seems to be a common failure mode--suddenly no TX or
RX.  He would not drink the Elecraft Kool-Aid I tried to provide, even
though he's operated many a K3 at FD or contest sites with me.

73, Bill, K8TE (catching up on e-mail)

I download all the Elecraft manuals and print them on 3-hole paper
(pre-punched) and then keep them in a binder.  This way, I can add notes
here and there in the right spot merely by inserting another 3-hole punched
paper or punching printed e-mails or something myself. 

I think this is the absolute best way to manage the information you will
collect over the years on different things like suggested settings for
this-and-that and so on. 

73, phil, K7PEH 




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-08 Thread Harry Mueller
I'll second the KE7X manuals. They're fantastic and easy to understand. Smaller 
and more portable too.

73,
Harry, W1HMM
Durham NH

> On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:41, Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:40 Ken G Kopp  wrote:
> 
>> Also check KE7X website for his manuals covering Elecraft
>> 
>> 73!
>> 
>> K0PP
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:36 John Hiatt  wrote:
>> 
>>> They have replacement manuals on the order page for the K3S.  I don't see
>>> one listed for the KX3, but I'm sure they would sell you one if you call
>>> the sales department.
>>> http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> KC7DRI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>>> on behalf of Ronnie Hull 
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:38 AM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
>>> manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
>>> downloading the .PDF
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Ken G Kopp
On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:40 Ken G Kopp  wrote:

> Also check KE7X website for his manuals covering Elecraft
>
> 73!
>
> K0PP
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:36 John Hiatt  wrote:
>
>> They have replacement manuals on the order page for the K3S.  I don't see
>> one listed for the KX3, but I'm sure they would sell you one if you call
>> the sales department.
>> http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
>>
>>
>> John,
>> KC7DRI
>>
>> 
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>> on behalf of Ronnie Hull 
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:38 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual
>>
>>
>> I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
>> manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
>> downloading the .PDF
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> W5SUM
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Ken G Kopp
Also check KE7X website for his manuals covering Elecraft

73!

K0PP

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 10:36 John Hiatt  wrote:

> They have replacement manuals on the order page for the K3S.  I don't see
> one listed for the KX3, but I'm sure they would sell you one if you call
> the sales department.  http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm
>
>
> John,
> KC7DRI
>
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Ronnie Hull 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:38 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual
>
>
> I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
> manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
> downloading the .PDF
>
> Thanks
>
> W5SUM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread John Hiatt
They have replacement manuals on the order page for the K3S.  I don't see one 
listed for the KX3, but I'm sure they would sell you one if you call the sales 
department.  http://www.elecraft.com/how_to_contact_elecraft.htm


John,
KC7DRI


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Ronnie Hull 
Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 5:38 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual


I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the 
manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in 
downloading the .PDF

Thanks

W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Rich

I agree, mine are full of notes and yellow highlights.

Rich


On 7/3/2018 9:54 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

I download all the Elecraft manuals and print them on 3-hole paper 
(pre-punched) and then keep them in a binder.  This way, I can add notes here 
and there in the right spot merely by inserting another 3-hole punched paper or 
punching printed e-mails or something myself.

I think this is the absolute best way to manage the information you will 
collect over the years on different things like suggested settings for 
this-and-that and so on.

73, phil, K7PEH



On Jul 3, 2018, at 6:49 AM, Rich  wrote:

If they do not sell it,  You could download the PDF and take it to a Kinkos and 
have them print it.

Rich


On 7/3/2018 9:43 AM, Rose wrote:

Suggest you call them and ask ...

73

K0PP

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 06:40 Ronnie Hull  wrote:


I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
downloading the .PDF

Thanks

W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Phil Hystad via Elecraft
I download all the Elecraft manuals and print them on 3-hole paper 
(pre-punched) and then keep them in a binder.  This way, I can add notes here 
and there in the right spot merely by inserting another 3-hole punched paper or 
punching printed e-mails or something myself.

I think this is the absolute best way to manage the information you will 
collect over the years on different things like suggested settings for 
this-and-that and so on.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Jul 3, 2018, at 6:49 AM, Rich  wrote:
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> If they do not sell it,  You could download the PDF and take it to a Kinkos 
> and have them print it.
> 
> Rich
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> 
> On 7/3/2018 9:43 AM, Rose wrote:
>> Suggest you call them and ask ...
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> K0PP
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 06:40 Ronnie Hull  wrote:
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>>> I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
>>> manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
>>> downloading the .PDF
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> W5SUM
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Rich
If they do not sell it,  You could download the PDF and take it to a 
Kinkos and have them print it.


Rich


On 7/3/2018 9:43 AM, Rose wrote:

Suggest you call them and ask ...

73

K0PP

On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 06:40 Ronnie Hull  wrote:


I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in
downloading the .PDF

Thanks

W5SUM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Rose
Suggest you call them and ask ...

73

K0PP

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> I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the
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> downloading the .PDF
>
> Thanks
>
> W5SUM
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[Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2018-07-03 Thread Ronnie Hull


I just purchased a KX3 from the original owner. It did NOT come with the 
manual. Does Elecraft sell the original Manuals? I am NOT interested in 
downloading the .PDF

Thanks

W5SUM 

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[Elecraft] KX3 manual information

2017-09-21 Thread Keith Hamilton
I would like to point out there is no errata for the KX3 owners manual
which was printed about 2 years ago according to the Elecraft website. Lots
of firmware changes in 2 years!  So an errata page does not solve my
problem. It is hard for me to believe there is no up-to-date information
available without going through 2 years worth of firmware updates and hand
writing them in my manual???

Still confused in Ohio!  Keith Hamilton, N8CEP
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[Elecraft] KX3 manual, CAT control, I-Q, and so forth

2012-03-04 Thread Tony Estep
Unless there's an unseen gotcha, it appears that one could plug the
I-Q into a stereo sound card, connect to your PC via CAT, and have a
complete SDR and/or Panadaptor display without any headaches. This is
possible with the K3 only by inserting something like a Softrock or
LP-Pan between the IF out and the soundcard in, but it looks as if
anybody who has such a setup going now could just plug the KX3 right
in, make an adjustment to the IF offset in the SDR program, and be
good to go. This is exactly what I've been hoping for since the early
discussions of the KX3. Even though I know it's not yet the middle of
March, I am watching out the window for the UPS guy.

Tony KTØNY


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[Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread John Cooper
Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to hold us 
over while we wait patiently for March?

WT5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Keith Heimbold
So the date is now March or was it always March. I am excited nevertheless. I 
can't wait to bring it on the babymoon in April. 

Keith
AG6AZ

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 Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to hold us 
 over while we wait patiently for March?
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
There will definitely be a February edition of the manual posted on  
our website. It's already in use by our field testers.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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 Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Manual

2012-02-15 Thread Bob
Anything available for those of us waiting for the P3SVGA add on?

73,
Bob
K2TK  ex KN2TKR (1956)  K2TKR

On 2/15/2012 9:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 There will definitely be a February edition of the manual posted on
 our website. It's already in use by our field testers.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


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 Will there be a preliminary .pdf manual released for the KX3 soon to
 hold us over while we wait patiently for March?

 WT5Y



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