Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[hawley, charles j jr]

Ahh...just goes to show I don’t know much about that, what shoots a .223?

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> On Aug 31, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Gordon LaPoint  wrote:
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> Common bullet sizes!
> 
>> On 8/31/2020 13:05 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>> No.
>> 25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy
>> 
>> Chuck Jack Hawley
>> KE9UW
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>> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>> 
 On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Metric conversion hints:
>>> 
>>> Just remember,  9mm = .357",
>>>5.56mm = .223",
>>> 
>>> Now, wasn't that easy?
>>> 
>>> Charlie k3ICH
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Gordon LaPoint]

Common bullet sizes!

On 8/31/2020 13:05 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

No.
25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy

Chuck Jack Hawley
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On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T  wrote:

Metric conversion hints:

Just remember,  9mm = .357",
5.56mm = .223",

Now, wasn't that easy?

Charlie k3ICH






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[hawley, charles j jr]

No. 
25.4 mm = 1 inch is easy

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

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> On Aug 31, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Charlie T  wrote:
> 
> Metric conversion hints:
> 
> Just remember,  9mm = .357", 
>5.56mm = .223",
> 
> Now, wasn't that easy? 
> 
> Charlie k3ICH
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Charlie T]

Metric conversion hints:

Just remember,  9mm = .357", 
5.56mm = .223",

Now, wasn't that easy? 

Charlie k3ICH






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Nr4c]

There were several answers, many were just wrong (1/4-20. Or likely). 

But the absolute best answer was from Wayne of Elecraft who is sending out an 
envelope with a nut.  So who cares what size it is?

I think it might be 6X.75 (mm). 

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> On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:41 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
> 
> Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one
> answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter
> in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then
> measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch.  e.g. M6 x 1
> 
> John KK9A
> 
> 
> Mooneer K6AQ wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[john]

Well you had 20+ responses to your question however to my knowledge not one
answer. Since it's a metric thread it is quite easy to measure the diameter
in millimeters using a caliper (round up to the nearest size) and then
measure the distance between threads for the thread pitch.  e.g. M6 x 1

John KK9A


Mooneer K6AQ wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[David Christ]

We are way off topic but as long as we are there I pass this on. 


All  you old timers know about this.  The question is:  How do you bury a 
programmer?

For you youngsters the answer is :  Face down 9 edge first

David K0LUM
First started programming in 1960

> On Aug 29, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Wes  wrote:
> 
> Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.
> 
> I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran 
> IV course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our 
> coding, punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we 
> would come in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound 
> up dating one of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> 
> On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and 
>> Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of 
>> green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for 
>> everything else."
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all 
>> the chad from those cards?
>> 
>> On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>>> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
>>> 
 Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
 a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.
>>> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
>>> (*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
>>> Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
>>> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
>>> to have two different production lines,
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[rich hurd WC3T]

I’m going to request as a non-moderator that we draw a curtain of mercy
across this thread.  Between this and the endless musing on K4
availability/ship dates/etc.,  my Delete key is getting worn out...

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 19:25 Wes  wrote:

> Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.
>
>
>
> I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored
> Fortran IV
>
> course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our
> coding,
>
> punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would
> come
>
> in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound up dating
> one
>
> of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.
>
>
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
> > The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet
> and
>
> > Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes
> of
>
> > green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for
>
> > everything else."
>
> >
>
> > 73,
>
> >
>
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>
> > Sparks NV DM09dn
>
> > Washoe County
>
> >
>
> > PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with
> all the
>
> > chad from those cards?
>
> >
>
> > On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>
> >> On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
>
> >>> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.
>
> >> The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
>
> >> (*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
>
> >> Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
>
> >> the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
>
> >> to have two different production lines,
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Wes]

Not to forget winning WW1 and WWII.

I remember punch cards fondly.  At Hughes I took a company-sponsored Fortran IV 
course.  I was in Tucson and the main-frame was in CA.  We would do our coding, 
punch and submit our cards, the batch would be run overnight and we would come 
in the next morning to find out how many typos we made.  I wound up dating one 
of the key punch girls, and reduced my typos to zero.


Wes  N7WS


On 8/29/2020 3:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet and 
Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and boxes of 
green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good enough for 
everything else."


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with all the 
chad from those cards?


On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:


Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Fred Jensen]

The main reason Phil is that we went to the moon on International Feet 
and Pounds [and an uncountable number of 80-column punched cards and 
boxes of green-bar].  "If it got us to the moon, it has to be good 
enough for everything else."


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

PS:  I wonder how many rolls of toilet paper could have been made with 
all the chad from those cards?


On 8/29/2020 1:06 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:


Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Fred Jensen]

And Len, there is a real society for exactly what you point out ... The 
Duodecimal Society of America [www.dozenal.org] that promotes changing 
the base of our number system to twelve for exactly the same reason.  
Not quite the same as the Flat Earth Society, but equally unlikely to 
make much headway.


I can think of several reasons why an invasion by our northern neighbors 
would be a positive and desirable occurrence. [;=)


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 7:51 PM, l...@ka7ftp.com wrote:

Actually...  not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades.  12 has more 
factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into divisible 
segments.

Also...  it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading.  Everytime they've tried 
they fall short of their destination.

;)



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Phil Kane]

On 8/29/2020 5:16 AM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

> Even that would be easier if the country just bit the bullet and set
> a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be on the same page.

The Metric Conversion Act goes back to the Ford administration in 1974
(*).  It is enforced slightly less than the Uniform Spitting on the
Sidewalk Act that predates it.  The main reason that we see it at all in
the US is than manufacturers dealing in world-wide markets do not want
to have two different production lines,

* My Ford sedan is built to metric standards...  :)

During my tenure, FCC rules and standards were rewritten to express
dimensions in metric, but the conversion from USCU wasn't smooth.  For
instance, one specification for certain antenna heights was "20 feet
above ground".  So what did the FCC do?  Changed it to "6.1 meters (20
feet) above ground".  Why not an even 6 meters??  Everyone still refers
to it as the "20 foot rule".

The neglected metric unit, although not past of the SI, is the gradian
(grad).  100 grads to a quadrant.  400 grads to a full circle. 1 grad =
0.9 degree.  It is used mainly in European surveying, but since May 2020
is legal for use in the US.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Steve Gray]

This is supposed to be addressed to the group, not Rich specifically, but on
this so-called "smart" 'phone, I cannot see how to do that, nor how to strip
out the miles (kilometres!) of duplicated commentary. Mea culpa my friends.
One day!

While I was still working, I used to build aircraft interior equipment,
specifically galleys and associated structures, and everything was in
imperial (actually decimal inches.) We used UNF and UNC attachment
fasteners. Even Airbus tolerated our decimal inch drawings and Boeing was a
given. I became completely conversant with imperial- both fractional and
decimal, but also metric. I routinely read fractional tape measures as a
decimal inch converted mentally on the fly. What I'm saying is it's only a
cocktail of laziness, stubborness and * to plough ahead with one
system completely in denial of another potentially better one. In my closing
years I did Q.A. and First Article Inspection. I wouldn't have survived with
Boeing or Airbus if I'd refused to be conversant in all systems.

While at college (I did Environmental Engineering) we were taught
dimensional analysis of equations. Everything is reduced to Length, Mass and
Time (ignoring wild cards like viscosity). When you see an equation
substantiated in this way, a light goes on in your head and the benefits of
the S.I. System are obvious. Until that is inculcated into your skull, you
take equations as something that is commited to memory but maybe never
stopping to consider why or who the heck figured that out? Sure you can
arrive at the same results using imperial units, but only if you remember
(without fail) to deploy empirical fudge factors so inches can be used
alongside ounces and so on.

That said, the S.I. unit is the metre. The recognised sub unit is the
millimetre. (not the centimetre). Suppose you want to cut something six feet
long (1,829 millimetres)? You pull out the tape measure and it happens to be
upside down. Enough times for it to be a lurking threat you measure (eg)
1,819 instead of 1.829 by mistake. It's your own fault, but for humans
interacting with the world I submit that feet and inches are a better way,
but for engineers (or anyone that likes to think of themselves as such.) The
S.I. System is a far better way to do things. I also think that the evolved
usage of centimetres is a tacit admission that inches were better than
millimetres. $0.02 of course.

Steve, G4VRR.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Rich NE1EE]

I enjoy cooking and baking. All my recipes are in metric, and based on mass 
where ever I can, to get away from "cups", etc.
I am an amateur woodworker, and all my work is metric. A while back I completed 
a table with nearly 100 unique angles (trust me, it looks fine ;-)...all the 
while being told that a) I couldn't do it at all, and b) if I could, not in 
metric!!!
I had a guy at the place where I buy wood remark that wood was coming in 
"weird" dimensions! When I got home, I measured it and found that it was exact 
metric dimensions.
Mixing shellac is way easier in metric. You should see the hoops that you jump 
through using USCU.
My ham buddies are constantly remarking "oh, yeah, you use that metric stuff" 
when I mention that my antenna is a 40m EF. Doesn't that make more sense when I 
think of the bands it might work on?

***It's just a difficulty making the transition...then it's easier. I'll bet 
you could get everyone in the US to criticise the use of pounds, shilling, 
pence, and so on, when compared to the dollar in base 10...but turn the 
discussion to a general one of metric, and I get "but it's so confusing" all 
the time...is it really easier to remember conversions of feet and inches to 
metric for antennas? I was calculating an antenna dimension the other day, and 
it came to 1780mm...which is 1.78m...no fancy math involved. Imagine me 
calculating that in feet, and then converting to some precise measurement...I 
don't have a tape measure marked in decimal feet.

I bought a 30m tape that winds up into a case. It has been working fine for 
many years.

With regard to "12 has more factors than 10" in another post, I suggest that 
this is a matter of habit. Being able to divide 12 so many ways doesn't 
necessarily make it more useful, I opine, just more familiar. In grammar 
school, I had to learn a bunch of yard-foot-mile-etc conversions, but in SI, 
it's all base ten. I can divide 1780mm any way I want. In fact, a friend of 
mine who is a builder came to me for help one day calculating distances to do 
with an unusual roof angle. Showing him how to use his calculator to do the 
calcs was the easy part...the hard part was translating 20 feet 3 3/16 inches 
to decimal so that he could do the math, then convert that back to feet and 
inches. There are, I hear, calculators specifically designed to do this sort of 
math. Talk about a niche product.

I too a piece of heavy glass (amateur photographer equipment) to a glass place 
to be split in 2. You should have seen the effort to measure in USCU and divide 
accurately by 2, without decimals. A snap in metric.

0C as a freezing point makes so much more sense than 32F. And yes all my house 
temperatures report in C. And I use ISO dates -mm-dd, and 24hr time. Can't 
tell you the number of times there was confusion because someone was not sure 
if a time for some event  was 8am or pm, when the context could go either way.

***I don't say that converting our brains is easy, especially when we have 
learned something so fundamental as distance and volume in our youth...drilled 
into us, as it were. But the effort is so well worth it. I completely empathize 
with those who are still USCU, and find it a struggle to move to metric. The 
hardest unit for me is big distances. I still feel more comfortable estimating 
some distance as 3 miles than as 5km. Even that would be easier if the country 
just bit the bullet and set a time limit on moving to metric. Then we'd all be 
on the same page.

There are some illusions. Say I know that I need to go 15 miles, and I can do 
it at 60 mph. Neat, right? But what if I need to go 13 miles at 45 mph? (OK, 
those of us who do math estimating easily in our heads find this trivial.) But 
we fall into the habit of creating such shortcuts. I am much more likely to 
estimate a 13 or 14 mile trip as 15, so the math is easier. And 60 mph is a 
mile/minute, also convenient. But I could as easily get used to doing 100kph, 
and then saying that 50k will take 30 minutes. Driving around metric countries, 
it doesn't take long to see that all the speeds are in metric-friendly units, 
not something like 96.6 kph.

I do a lot of my own work, such as maintaining my motorcycles and such...so I 
have 2 sets of tools. Sigh. there was a time when I could get metric items more 
easily at HD, but several years ago they switched to carrying far fewer metric 
items.

On 2020-08-28 19:12:-0700, Fred Jensen wrote:

>In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur 
>radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, 
>cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew 
>up with.�  We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4".�  We measured nails 
>in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how 
>it was.�  Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and 
>over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, 

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[len]

Actually...  not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades.  12 has more 
factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into 
divisible segments.

Also...  it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading.  Everytime they've tried 
they fall short of their destination.

;)

 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 8:13 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur 
radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, cups, 
teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew up 
with.  We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4".  We measured nails in 
pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it 
was.  Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and over 
time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal.  
I came home ... 
they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid.  It would be 
great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of my 
lifetime.  But, I'm not holding my breath.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
> Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I 
> got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape 
> measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.
>
> Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and 
> metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not 
> hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that 
> are close, but I have not stumbled across them.
>
> On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
>> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>>
>>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
>> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch 
>> :)
>>
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>>

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Bill Frantz]

On 8/28/20 at 9:14 PM, 73.de.ne...@gmail.com (Rich NE1EE) wrote:

Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of 
sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few 
Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to 
Canada...could not find one in the US at all.


Companies like Forestry Suppliers have tapes in both Metric and 
US measures. I particularly like the Metric/Feet and 1/10 - 
1/100 tapes. You can do the arithmetic without converting to 
1/12s of a foot. They are great for making wire antennas.




They also have longer tapes up to 100M.

And I agree with Skip about metric vs US. Please tell me which 
is bigger in diameter, a number 35 drill or a number 27? How 
about a number 4 knitting needle or a number 8?


True trivia: The book, "Measuring America" says that at the time 
of the American Revolution there were over 100,000 measurement 
units in use in the colanies. Some of this came from the miller 
using different bushles for buying grain and selling flour. (The 
difference was his profit margin.)


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Byron Servies]

I agree 100%

Despite my scientific training, which was all metric, I have spent
ages adjusting my wet-ware to it. 5280ft / mi? WTF?

Indeed, just today, I thought, what is this space in millimeters? 60?
It was 65, and I was happy. The same with volumes and grams. It just
works.

But, I, too, am not holding my breath. When I called Festool a couple
of years ago for the metric scales for my saw and router (they
switched to Imperial for the US market), they told me I was the first
one to ask for them. They were free. Nevermind that sheet material is
actually make in metric even for our market and is only inch-like.

73, Byron N6NUL
p.s. Imperial units in the US have been officially defined in metric
for decades.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:14 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by
> amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds,
> gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of
> stupid measures I grew up with.  We had 2x4's, which actually were not
> 2" x 4".  We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason
> ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was.  Then, the US Military sent
> me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think
> metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal.  I came home ...
> they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid.  It would
> be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of
> my lifetime.  But, I'm not holding my breath.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
> > Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When 
> > I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape 
> > measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.
> >
> > Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US 
> > and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same 
> > does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be 
> > some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them.
> >
> > On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
> >> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch :)
> >>
> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> >>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Fred Jensen]

In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by 
amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, 
gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of 
stupid measures I grew up with.  We had 2x4's, which actually were not 
2" x 4".  We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason 
... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was.  Then, the US Military sent 
me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think 
metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal.  I came home ... 
they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid.  It would 
be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of 
my lifetime.  But, I'm not holding my breath.


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I 
got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape 
measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.

Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and 
metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not 
hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are 
close, but I have not stumbled across them.

On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:

On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:


Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?

Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Rich NE1EE]

Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I 
got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape 
measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.

Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and 
metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not 
hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are 
close, but I have not stumbled across them.

On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
>On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>
>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
>
>Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch :)
>
>73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Phil Kane]

On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?

Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch :)

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Nr4c]

You might try some Metric nuts. Like 6 mm. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Mooneer Salem  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Gary K9GS]

Or pick up the phone and call Elecraft.  See if they will tell you the nut size 
and thread.If you ask very nicely they would probably drop one in an envelope 
and send it to you.73,Gary K9GS
 Original message From: Phil Kane  Date: 
8/28/20  4:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote:> 
Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind> you, 
but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no> such 
luck.Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut.Then 
you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it.  Weall learn the 
hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that).73 de K2ASP - Phil KaneElecraft 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Phil Kane]

On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote:

> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.

Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut.
Then you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it.  We
all learn the hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that).

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[hawley, charles j jr]

Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?

Chuck Jack Hawley 
KE9UW

Sent from my iPhone, cjack 

> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Mooneer Salem  wrote:
> 
> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.
> 
> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able
> to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it
> past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
> potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
> to tighten it much further by hand, right?
> 
> -Mooneer K6AQ
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 1/4"-20  I think
>> 
>> Chuck Hawley
>> c-haw...@illinois.edu
>> 
>> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
>> 
>> --
>> *From:* elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
>> on behalf of Mooneer Salem 
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
>> *To:* Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io
>> 
>> *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
>> it.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Rose]

Most likely they’re metric 

73

K0PP

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 14:13 Mooneer Salem  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Mooneer Salem]

Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
such luck.

Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able
to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it
past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
to tighten it much further by hand, right?

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr 
wrote:

> 1/4"-20  I think
>
> Chuck Hawley
>  c-haw...@illinois.edu
>
>  Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>  aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
>
> --
> *From:* elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Mooneer Salem 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
> *To:* Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io
> 
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[hawley, charles j jr]

1/4"-20  I think

Chuck Hawley
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 Amateur Radio, KE9UW
 aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles


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Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector ; elecraft...@groups.io 

Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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[Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

[Mooneer Salem]

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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