Re: [Elecraft] MAST HOLE FOAM FILLERS

2019-04-29 Thread Lee Ormiston
Kent,

Suggest you read and perform the calculations in Calculating the Required
Mast Strength section of *ARRL Antenna Book.  *You will also want to search
NWS.gov web site for Maximum Recorded Wind Gust speed at weather reporting
stations nearest you.

NORRL Lee

On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:47 PM Bill  wrote:

> A PVC mast 3' into the ground will easily break off - use 2" galvanized
> pipe and allow several feet above the grass level. This will allow you
> to connect the 50' mast to same. Best to make a swivel mount several
> feet off the grass level to allow for putting it up and down. You must
> guy this tower every 10 feet or it will do the dance in the wind. For a
> light weight installation that is well guyed you can use post setting
> mix. You should use a tube and make a mushroom at the bottom to keep
> frost heaving at bay.
>
> Guying is very important - you will gain most of your wind resistance
> strength from it. It will not survive even modest winds without guying.
>
> I do something similar with a 25' piece of 2" aluminum pipe fastened at
> the grass level to an 8' T-post driven in 4'. The tower is guyed at 12'
> and the top. Guys go to T-posts and are tied off above 4' to provide for
> easy mowing. T-posts must be the heavy cast types - rolled are just junk
> and will easily fold under any load.
>
> My NVIS wire antennas (75 and 40 meters) have survived in excess of 70
> MPH winds with no problems at all. My system has been up for about 10
> years without any failures.
>
> Just remember, 50' is about four times more of a problem than my 25'.
> Also, aluminum pipe, although more expensive, will be much more solid
> than any plastic tube.
>
> Bill W2BLC
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] MAST HOLE FOAM FILLERS

2019-04-29 Thread Bill
A PVC mast 3' into the ground will easily break off - use 2" galvanized 
pipe and allow several feet above the grass level. This will allow you 
to connect the 50' mast to same. Best to make a swivel mount several 
feet off the grass level to allow for putting it up and down. You must 
guy this tower every 10 feet or it will do the dance in the wind. For a 
light weight installation that is well guyed you can use post setting 
mix. You should use a tube and make a mushroom at the bottom to keep 
frost heaving at bay.


Guying is very important - you will gain most of your wind resistance 
strength from it. It will not survive even modest winds without guying.


I do something similar with a 25' piece of 2" aluminum pipe fastened at 
the grass level to an 8' T-post driven in 4'. The tower is guyed at 12' 
and the top. Guys go to T-posts and are tied off above 4' to provide for 
easy mowing. T-posts must be the heavy cast types - rolled are just junk 
and will easily fold under any load.


My NVIS wire antennas (75 and 40 meters) have survived in excess of 70 
MPH winds with no problems at all. My system has been up for about 10 
years without any failures.


Just remember, 50' is about four times more of a problem than my 25'. 
Also, aluminum pipe, although more expensive, will be much more solid 
than any plastic tube.


Bill W2BLC


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[Elecraft] MAST HOLE FOAM FILLERS

2019-04-29 Thread KENT TRIMBLE
There are a number of polyurethane-type foam post-hole fillers on the 
market (Sika, Rainbow, Secure Set, Poly-Set, Postloc,etc.).  I would 
appreciate a brief discussion (10 replies maximum) from knowledgeable 
construction people as to what might be best for the following application.


I'm wanting to anchor a 50-foot Max-Gain Systems MK-8-HD fiberglass 
push-up mast weighing 24 pounds which will support a 5-inch plastic 
center-insulator bearing 16-gauge open-wire feed-line and ~130 feet of 
16-gauge radiator wire.


The foam will surround a 3-inch o.d. Schedule-40 PVC pipe in a 3-foot 
deep hole.


I'm prepared to further stabilize the mast above ground with T-posts.

Product-knowledgeable replies only, please, especially from utility 
company personnel who anchor utility poles with this stuff.


73,

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
Jefferson City, Missouri




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