Re: [Elecraft] More fun with short linear loaded wires and

2005-05-07 Thread Michael Babineau

Dale wrote :
 Maybe you could try something like back-to-back telescoping antennas
 tied to the top of the wire, such that they balance out and remain
 somewhat horizontal.

Dale thanks for the comments. I have been thinking about trying to 
combine

both linear and capacitive end loading, although it gets to be a bit of
a mechanical challenge when using a lightweight fishing pole as a 
support.


I will try this in one of my next round of experiments.


Michael VE3WMB 


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[Elecraft] More fun with short linear loaded wires and the KXAT1

2005-05-06 Thread Michael Babineau

I have been doing some more experimentation with shortened linear loaded
wires in an attempt to find more practical lengths of end-fed wires for 
portable

and pedestrian mobile operations with my KX1.

Yesterday I used a 11 ft wire supported on a 10ft  fiberglass fishing 
pole and managed
to work KO0K in OH on 40M while trailing a 30 foot wire and running 
about 2.5W on
my KX1. As before, the linear loaded wire is made from 4 conductor 
computer ribbon
cable with the inner two conductors not connected (ie just used as 
spacers). I short
the outer two conductors at the top and install banana plugs on the two 
outer conductors
at the bottom end of the wire.  With no addedl loading other than the 
wire and the
KXAT1 I was able to get about a 2:1 match on 40M. This is not great but 
still within the
range of what the KX1 is ok with according to Wayne, N6KR. I am able to 
get better than

a 1.5:1 match on 30M and 20M with this setup as well.

Also, those of you familiar with the KXAT1 probably know that this 
tuner was optimized
for a 24 to 28 foot end-fed wire. I have been up until now using a 24 
footer with great
success, but when I hang it from the ubiquitous 20 ft SD-20 type 
fishing pole, the resulting
sloping configuration doesn't seem to lend itself to a great match on 
40M, so I have
been using a somewhat heavier and bulkier and more expensive 24 foot 
pole.
I tried using a 20 foot wire but that doesn't seem to make the tuner 
happy either.
So, yesterday, I tried a 20 foot linear loaded wire, with construction 
as above and
suspended it vertically from a 20 foot pole and  I  am happy to report 
that this loads
very nicely on all three bands covered by the KX1 using the internal 
KXAT1.


Since I am somewhat skeptical about the how well the insulation on the 
ribbon cable
actually functions at RF, I think that my next step will be to build 
what amounts to
a length of home-brew mini open wire line, using small gauge teflon 
coated wire
and some pieces of stiff plastic drinking straw as spacers. I'll 
probably try about
1/2  spacing and see how that works out and how much more, or less 
wind load

and weight that adds as compared to the ribbon cable antenna.

Too much fun ... too little time ...

Michael VE3WMB

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Re: [Elecraft] More fun with short linear loaded wires and the KXAT1

2005-05-06 Thread Dale Boresz

Hello Michael,

I've experimented quite a bit with linear loaded vertical dipoles, and 
found that placing capacitance hats at both ends helps a lot. Not only 
does it lower the resonant frequency for a given length of wire, but it 
also raises the radiation resistance so the antenna will be more efficient.


Maybe you could try something like back-to-back telescoping antennas 
tied to the top of the wire, such that they balance out and remain 
somewhat horizontal.


Have fun!

73, Dale WA8SRA

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