Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
How long was your coax? Chances are that the feedline was doing most of the radiating, especially on 40m/80m. 73, Dave AB7E On 7/2/2020 2:12 PM, Lyn Norstad wrote: Shortly after I was first licensed, in 1969, we did a lot of camping and I built an L tuner that would literally match anything. My favorite was folding aluminum lawn chairs hanging from ... whatever you could find. Actually the chaise lounge worked even better on 40 and 80. I was a regular check-in on MidCars with that from campgrounds in the Dakotas and Northern Minnesota. 73 Lyn, W0LEN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
Shortly after I was first licensed, in 1969, we did a lot of camping and I built an L tuner that would literally match anything. My favorite was folding aluminum lawn chairs hanging from ... whatever you could find. Actually the chaise lounge worked even better on 40 and 80. I was a regular check-in on MidCars with that from campgrounds in the Dakotas and Northern Minnesota. 73 Lyn, W0LEN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Sheldon Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 2:36 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios Something else that worked real well with my KX2 at a hotel in Branson, MO a couple years ago (OzarkCon QRP convention) was the hotel’s rain gutter. I ran a short wire out my ground floor room window to a screw holding a bottom section on. KX2’s tuner clicked a couple times, 1:1 SWR and I was able to work all over the US on 40 and 80 meters in the evenings. Beat having to try getting a vertical up exposed in the parking lot and probably worked much better anyway. Jim, W0EB Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Can't report on snow, seasoned or otherwise, but never underestimate the > usefulness of a barbed wire fence. I took my K2 to our Cal QSO Party > expedition in Alpine County one year and use an old, falling down fence > behind our camp connected directly to the BNC antenna connector through a > short length of RG-58 and the ATU didn't even run more than a second or so. > Made a number of CW Q's from 8,550 ft. We also used that fence as the > counterpoise for a 160 Inv-L a couple of times. > > 73, > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > >> On 7/2/2020 6:36 AM, Jan Timmers wrote: >> Regards; >> John Timmers >> >> Hehe - lightly salted snow. Nice one >> >> 73.5 de VE7JBT :-) >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:36 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> >>> - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match >>> anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. >>> >>> Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. >>> >>> 73.5, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to l...@lnainc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
Something else that worked real well with my KX2 at a hotel in Branson, MO a couple years ago (OzarkCon QRP convention) was the hotel’s rain gutter. I ran a short wire out my ground floor room window to a screw holding a bottom section on. KX2’s tuner clicked a couple times, 1:1 SWR and I was able to work all over the US on 40 and 80 meters in the evenings. Beat having to try getting a vertical up exposed in the parking lot and probably worked much better anyway. Jim, W0EB Sent from my iPad > On Jul 2, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: > > Can't report on snow, seasoned or otherwise, but never underestimate the > usefulness of a barbed wire fence. I took my K2 to our Cal QSO Party > expedition in Alpine County one year and use an old, falling down fence > behind our camp connected directly to the BNC antenna connector through a > short length of RG-58 and the ATU didn't even run more than a second or so. > Made a number of CW Q's from 8,550 ft. We also used that fence as the > counterpoise for a 160 Inv-L a couple of times. > > 73, > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW > Sparks NV DM09dn > Washoe County > >> On 7/2/2020 6:36 AM, Jan Timmers wrote: >> Regards; >> John Timmers >> >> Hehe - lightly salted snow. Nice one >> >> 73.5 de VE7JBT :-) >> >> >>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:36 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> >>> - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match >>> anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. >>> >>> Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. >>> >>> 73.5, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
Can't report on snow, seasoned or otherwise, but never underestimate the usefulness of a barbed wire fence. I took my K2 to our Cal QSO Party expedition in Alpine County one year and use an old, falling down fence behind our camp connected directly to the BNC antenna connector through a short length of RG-58 and the ATU didn't even run more than a second or so. Made a number of CW Q's from 8,550 ft. We also used that fence as the counterpoise for a 160 Inv-L a couple of times. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 7/2/2020 6:36 AM, Jan Timmers wrote: Regards; John Timmers Hehe - lightly salted snow. Nice one 73.5 de VE7JBT :-) On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:36 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. 73.5, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
Regards; John Timmers Hehe - lightly salted snow. Nice one 73.5 de VE7JBT :-) On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 6:36 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > > > - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match > anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. > > Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. > > 73.5, > Wayne > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to jau...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
The KX2 has a “Built-In Electronic Keyer” and optional “Attachable Paddles”. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 2, 2020, at 6:35 AM, K9ZTV wrote: > > You’re a victim of a run-on sentence. He meant the rig has a built-in > microphone and a keyer paddle which is attachable (not “built-in”). > > Where he came up with “lightly salted snow” I haven’t a clue, but it’s the > quote of the year in my opinion. > > 73.5 also bears scrutiny. > > 73, > > Kent K9ZTV > >>> On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:28 AM, Thorsten Fricke wrote: >>> Am 02.07.20 um 03:34 schrieb Wayne Burdick: >>> >> ... >> >>> - includes a built-in mic and keyer paddle >>> >> >> A built-in keyer paddle? I must have overseen that in the handbook... >> Ok, I am learning CW with a Palm micro paddle, but a built in one, >> how/where can this be found? >> >> ... >>> ...and perhaps most important: >>> >>> - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match >>> anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. >>> >> >> "... lightly salted snow..." THANKS, that just made my day! And just to >> confirm, I am sure, that the KX2 ATU will really do this! >> >>> SOTA and POTA and casual users alike have told us that these are the >>> factors that matter most in a portable rig. Those who also need VHF/UHF >>> capability typically carry an inexpensive dual-band HT for that purpose. >>> >>> Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. >>> >>> 73.5, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >> >> Thanks >> Thossi >> DH4FT >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to k9...@socket.net > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to n...@widomaker.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
You’re a victim of a run-on sentence. He meant the rig has a built-in microphone and a keyer paddle which is attachable (not “built-in”). Where he came up with “lightly salted snow” I haven’t a clue, but it’s the quote of the year in my opinion. 73.5 also bears scrutiny. 73, Kent K9ZTV > On Jul 2, 2020, at 3:28 AM, Thorsten Fricke wrote: > >> Am 02.07.20 um 03:34 schrieb Wayne Burdick: >> > ... > >> - includes a built-in mic and keyer paddle >> > > A built-in keyer paddle? I must have overseen that in the handbook... > Ok, I am learning CW with a Palm micro paddle, but a built in one, > how/where can this be found? > > ... >> ...and perhaps most important: >> >> - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match >> anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. >> > > "... lightly salted snow..." THANKS, that just made my day! And just to > confirm, I am sure, that the KX2 ATU will really do this! > >> SOTA and POTA and casual users alike have told us that these are the factors >> that matter most in a portable rig. Those who also need VHF/UHF capability >> typically carry an inexpensive dual-band HT for that purpose. >> >> Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. >> >> 73.5, >> Wayne >> N6KR > > Thanks > Thossi > DH4FT > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9...@socket.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
Am 02.07.20 um 03:34 schrieb Wayne Burdick: ... - includes a built-in mic and keyer paddle A built-in keyer paddle? I must have overseen that in the handbook... Ok, I am learning CW with a Palm micro paddle, but a built in one, how/where can this be found? ... ...and perhaps most important: - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. "... lightly salted snow..." THANKS, that just made my day! And just to confirm, I am sure, that the KX2 ATU will really do this! SOTA and POTA and casual users alike have told us that these are the factors that matter most in a portable rig. Those who also need VHF/UHF capability typically carry an inexpensive dual-band HT for that purpose. Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. 73.5, Wayne N6KR Thanks Thossi DH4FT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
I frankly don't understand the appeal of the IC-705. It sounds like it's a '7300 except at QRP levels, for about the same price. Am I wrong about that? Because that doesn't sound nearly as portable as a even a KX3. And it doesn't even come with an automagic antenna tuner. FWIW, even though I'm not very active of late, I still love my KX3! And my K2, even if the K2 is still sort of packed away from an aborted move. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 9:34 PM To: Eric Norris Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios > Eric Norris wrote: > > I know Elecraft is very busy finalizing the K4, but I wonder if they have a > secret Tiger Team working on a response to the IC--705? Perhaps a KX4? Hi Eric, I can't comment on any mythical beasts one way or the other. But I think the existing KX line holds its own against the most likely competition, both old and new. Take the KX2. Relative to either of the Other Radios: - it's 60% lighter / 50% smaller (i.e., it really *is* an HF HT) - on battery power, it draws only 150 mA in RX mode vs. 400-700 mA - has an internal battery with over twice the capacity (watt-hours) - includes a built-in mic and keyer paddle - provides nearly the same DSP feature set as the K3S, including text decode/encode/display in multiple modes - has an extremely high-contrast LCD easily readable in bright sunlight (The Others wash out -- ask me how I know...) ...and perhaps most important: - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. SOTA and POTA and casual users alike have told us that these are the factors that matter most in a portable rig. Those who also need VHF/UHF capability typically carry an inexpensive dual-band HT for that purpose. Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. 73.5, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to bu...@brannan.name __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
I can testify to this statement. I have learned that when my KX3 takes a long time getting a match, with lots of clicking etc. that I should check to make sure the antenna is actually connected and that the coax isn't shorted. 73 Bill AE6JV On 7/1/20 at 9:34 PM, n...@elecraft.com (Wayne Burdick) wrote: - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. --- Bill Frantz| "I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the 408-348-7900 | intelligence. There's a knob called "brightness", but www.pwpconsult.com | it doesn't work. -- Gallagher __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Other Radios
> Eric Norris wrote: > > I know Elecraft is very busy finalizing the K4, but I wonder if they have a > secret Tiger Team working on a response to the IC--705? Perhaps a KX4? Hi Eric, I can't comment on any mythical beasts one way or the other. But I think the existing KX line holds its own against the most likely competition, both old and new. Take the KX2. Relative to either of the Other Radios: - it's 60% lighter / 50% smaller (i.e., it really *is* an HF HT) - on battery power, it draws only 150 mA in RX mode vs. 400-700 mA - has an internal battery with over twice the capacity (watt-hours) - includes a built-in mic and keyer paddle - provides nearly the same DSP feature set as the K3S, including text decode/encode/display in multiple modes - has an extremely high-contrast LCD easily readable in bright sunlight (The Others wash out -- ask me how I know...) ...and perhaps most important: - the KX2, like the KX3, has a built-in wide range ATU that will match anything from barbed wire fences to lightly salted snow. SOTA and POTA and casual users alike have told us that these are the factors that matter most in a portable rig. Those who also need VHF/UHF capability typically carry an inexpensive dual-band HT for that purpose. Disclaimer: IMHO. YMMV. 73.5, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
