Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-12 Thread Barry
In case you haven't noticed, the sun died.  It's even going to go dark across
the US in about 9 days  :-)

Seriously though, I use N0HR's Propfire Firefox add-on.  On the bar at the
bottom of the browser, I see current SFI, A and K at all times.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Barry

Tony,
I do not recommend VOACAP to the uninitiated. It does require some 
knowledge of what it does and how it does it. Interpretation can be 
difficult if you haven't had a course in probability and statistics. 
Some of the other sites that have been suggested might be a better 
choice as the presentations are already interpreted.


Frank, W3LPL, makes some good points. I'm typing this and looking at 
40 meters at the same time. I can assure all that there is a lot of 
activity on the band, and I'm running an S6 noise level right now, with 
my preamp off. However, I am running a center fed inverted L cut for 80 
meters and fed with ladder line. A quiet location would be superb, but I 
live in an urban environment. I can operate just about anytime I want 
because I am careful about what antennas I put up and how I feed them. 
My attitude has been to make an antenna that is ground independent, put 
up as high as you can, and if a little wire is good, more would be 
better. Shortened and loaded antennas work, but you do pay a penalty for 
their convenience.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Sent: 8/11/2017 3:43:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions


Whenever the topic of HF propagation comes up I remind everyone of this
site:

http://www.voacap.com/area/index.html

You set your QTH, choose your band, antenna, and power. Then a single 
click

will show you the probabilities of various-quality propagation to every
spot in the world. You can save the values you've entered so that every
time you bring up the site it is all ready for you.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Tony Estep
Whenever the topic of HF propagation comes up I remind everyone of this
site:

http://www.voacap.com/area/index.html

You set your QTH, choose your band, antenna, and power. Then a single click
will show you the probabilities of various-quality propagation to every
spot in the world. You can save the values you've entered so that every
time you bring up the site it is all ready for you.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread donovanf

Hi Keith, 


The internet is a fantastic tool for real time propagation reporting . 
By far my favorite site is: 


https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html 


>From left to right at the top of the page, select: 
- the band you're interested in, or all bands 
- signals 
- sent by 
- grid square 
- your two character grid field (e.g. FM) 
- all modes 
- then click GO 


Who says propagation is bad from the Pacific Northwest (Grid Field DN)? 
There a hundreds of 20 meter propagation reports in just the last minute. 
Most of the transmitters are running less than 50 watts to simple antennas. 


Enjoy! 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 





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From: "Keith Hutt" <keith.h...@virgin.net> 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:54:07 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions 

Personally i find the best way to turn on the radio spin the VFO and put out 
a few calls. 

Far more accurate than the so called "Band Propagation" tools. 

Many times the internet has said Band conditions Useless, take up knitting 
or something, 
when in actual fact the bands are open. 

How on earth did we manage before the internet to see what conditions were 
like? 

So many operators seem to be of the attitude "The internet says bands are 
poor" it must be so. 

Maybe I'm a dinosaur but no internet in my shack its 60 yds from the house 
and you know what i still make contacts every day. 
Despite hearing comments of, i could not survive without high speed internet 
etc etc in the shack it tells me when bands are open 
shows me who I'm working etc etc. 

Regards 

Keith G0TSH 


-Original Message- 
From: F5vjc 
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:59 PM 
To: volker.de...@t-online.de 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions 

There are so many useful propagation tools available today, use them! 

http://www.bandconditions.com/ 

73, F5VJC 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Keith Hutt
Personally i find the best way to turn on the radio spin the VFO and put out 
a few calls.


Far more accurate than the so called "Band Propagation" tools.

Many times the internet has said Band conditions Useless, take up knitting 
or something,

when in actual fact the bands are open.

How on earth did we manage before the internet to see what conditions were 
like?


So many operators seem to be of the attitude "The internet says bands are 
poor" it must be so.


Maybe I'm a dinosaur but no internet in my shack its 60 yds from the house 
and you know what i still make contacts every day.
Despite hearing comments of, i could not survive without high speed internet 
etc etc in the shack it tells me when bands are open

shows me who I'm working etc etc.

Regards

Keith G0TSH


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From: F5vjc

Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 6:59 PM
To: volker.de...@t-online.de
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

There are so many useful propagation tools available today, use them!

http://www.bandconditions.com/

73, F5VJC


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Ron Polityka
Hello,

 I am making contacts every day with either my K2 or K1 at 5 watts. Worked
9A1JSB two days ago.

73
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL

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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...

I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on WWV.
Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a pretty good
idea of what to expect.

HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare activity,
both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.

Compromise antennas don't help, either.

Your browser is your friend 

73

Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread volker . debus
 And hopefully so many other forums/ reflectors for OT

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CC: Barry LaZar <k3...@comcast.net <mailto:k3...@comcast.net> >, Ken G Kopp 
<kengk...@gmail.com <mailto:kengk...@gmail.com> >, Elecraft Reflector <
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There are so many useful propagation tools available today, use them!

 http://www.bandconditions.com/ <http://www.bandconditions.com/>

73, F5VJC

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  I suggest something like this:

  http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html <http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html> .
  It tells you A and K values SFI and
  solar wind values. Additionally, there is a plug in for a number of
  browsers from N0HR that shows you SFI, A and K values in a corner of
  your browser.


  73,
  Barry
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  Sent: 8/11/2017 1:01:01 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

  >For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...
  >
  >I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on
  >WWV. Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a
  >pretty
  >good idea of what to expect.
  >
  >HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare
  >activity, both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.
  >
  >Compromise antennas don't help, either.
  >
  >Your browser is your friend 
  >
  >73
  >
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread F5vjc
There are so many useful propagation tools available today, use them!

 http://www.bandconditions.com/

73, F5VJC

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> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions
> Datum: 11.08.2017, 19:16 Uhr
> An: Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com <mailto:kengk...@gmail.com> >, Elecraft
> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >
>
> I suggest something like this:
>
> http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html. It tells you A and K values SFI and
> solar wind values. Additionally, there is a plug in for a number of
> browsers from N0HR that shows you SFI, A and K values in a corner of
> your browser.
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>
> 73,
> Barry
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> To: "Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: 8/11/2017 1:01:01 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions
>
> >For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...
> >
> >I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on
> >WWV. Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a
> >pretty
> >good idea of what to expect.
> >
> >HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare
> >activity, both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.
> >
> >Compromise antennas don't help, either.
> >
> >Your browser is your friend 
> >
> >73
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

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Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions
Datum: 11.08.2017, 19:16 Uhr
An: Ken G Kopp <kengk...@gmail.com <mailto:kengk...@gmail.com> >, Elecraft 
<elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >

I suggest something like this:

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html. It tells you A and K values SFI and
solar wind values. Additionally, there is a plug in for a number of
browsers from N0HR that shows you SFI, A and K values in a corner of
your browser.


73,
Barry
K3NDM

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To: "Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 8/11/2017 1:01:01 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

>For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...
>
>I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on
>WWV. Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a
>pretty
>good idea of what to expect.
>
>HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare
>activity, both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.
>
>Compromise antennas don't help, either.
>
>Your browser is your friend 
>
>73
>
>Ken - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Barry

I suggest something like this:

http://www.hamqsl.com/solar3.html. It tells you A and K values SFI and 
solar wind values. Additionally, there is a plug in for a number of 
browsers from N0HR that shows you SFI, A and K values in a corner of 
your browser.



73,
Barry
K3NDM

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To: "Elecraft" <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: 8/11/2017 1:01:01 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions


For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...

I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on
WWV. Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a 
pretty

good idea of what to expect.

HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare
activity, both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.

Compromise antennas don't help, either.

Your browser is your friend 

73

Ken - K0PP
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[Elecraft] OT: Poor band conditions

2017-08-11 Thread Ken G Kopp
For those wondering if your receivers are functioning OK ...

I suggest you learn about and check the hourly propagation forecasts on
WWV. Learn about the A and K index numbers, too. They'll give you a pretty
good idea of what to expect.

HF band conditions are directly related to sunspot and solar flare
activity, both of which fluctuate at an eleven year rate.

Compromise antennas don't help, either.

Your browser is your friend 

73

Ken - K0PP
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