Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
I have a TCM 55" led and its clean pretty good deal on Amazon under 400$. Get Outlook for Android On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 4:28 PM -0500, "bill steffey" wrote: never noticed any rfi from my LG oled, had it two years 80 dipole is about 60 feet away on axis ...up 30 feet./ My tower is 150 feet away ,.,,, bill --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
Do they even still sell Plasma TV's? I sprung for a regular LED illuminated, LCD screen LG 47 inch with 3D, which turned out to be a total bomb, about 5 years ago and have never heard a peep of RFI from it. I DO watch "John * Carter" in 3D every so often, but it's the ONLY movie I have in 3D. (The LG method is the same as used in movie theaters, with totally passive 3D glasses.) 73, Charlie k3ICH *Based on Edgar Rice Burroughs' very first published book in 1912, titled "A Princess of Mars" (Barsoom, to all you four armed Tharks out there.) -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Raymond Sills Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 1:59 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question Plasma TV sets are often big RFI generators. And, they have the annoying habit of developing burn-in... much like CRTs if a constant image is displayed. I used to work for a TV network that used plasma displays as part of studio set decorations, and they quickly discovered that using a plasma display for an identifying graphic (a logo or some such) resulted in major burn-in, in part because they pushed the brightness of the display, so that it could be picked up by studio cameras in a brightly lit set. RFI was not a big concern at the TV studio, but there have been many stories of neighbors who purchased a plasma TV set that happened to ruin their radio reception... as well as the HF activity of nearby amateurs. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Gary Smith To: Elecraft Sent: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 1:39 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question Jim, Ditch the Plasmas and be sure they leave your neighborhood. I've got one of those insanely oversize LG OLED TVs and it puts out zero RFI that I can see on the P3. I did a lot of testing during the free return period just to be sure I wasn't bringing a noise generator into the house, and it's excellent in all ways. Also, it uses so little power compared to a much smaller Vizio TV, The glass is cool to the touch and the processor compartment is slightly warm at most. OLED can produce a lot of brightness and power consumption relates to brightness so how you set it up matters energy-wise, but your Plasmas are multiples of the power the OLED uses. One very nice thing with OLED is you see genuine black, no backlit shade of gray, it takes awhile to get used to seeing very accurate color and shading when watching in a darkened room, we don't see that with the other kinds of TV. 73, Gary KA1J > We´ve got three plasma TVs in our home. One is a 9 year old Sony that > is small (by today´s standards) and causes zero RFI on my K3. > Another is a piece of $&$% Samsung that completely rips up 160, 80, > and 40 meters. The third (our main TV) is a Panasonic Viera that up > until tonight has not caused any RFI. But I guess the honeymoon is > over, as 40 meters tonight was unusable while the XYL was watching one > of her shows. > > So, if I can convince her to replace the Panasonic I´m wondering if > folks here have had any RFI issues with the new OLED TVs? We´ve > enjoyed the quality of the plasma TV´s but enough is enough. > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > g...@ka1j.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to pin...@erols.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
never noticed any rfi from my LG oled, had it two years 80 dipole is about 60 feet away on axis ...up 30 feet./ My tower is 150 feet away ,.,,, bill --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
We have a Panasonic plasma TV that was a hand-me-down from my father in law. Lovely picture, but it is like having a Russian jammer in the living room. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On Nov 7, 2018, at 10:47 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote: > > Thank you Gary, > > This tidbit is very helpful as I was about to head out and get one of > the large LG OLED and noise was a concern. > > I would add that this is also one place you cannot scrimp on cabling, > some (give away with the device) HDMI cables spew noise (and are quickly > cut up then tossed). > > If you spend thousands for a large screen OLED, do you really want to be > a miser on the cheap stuff? > > Rick NHC (enjoying the typical -122 dBm noise floor or quieter, in N ID). > > > On 11/7/2018 10:38 AM, Gary Smith wrote: >> I've got one of those insanely oversize LG >> OLED TVs and it puts out zero RFI that I >> can see on the P3. I did a lot of testing >> during the free return period just to be >> sure I wasn't bringing a noise generator >> into the house, and it's excellent in all >> ways. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wun...@wunderwood.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
Plasma TV sets are often big RFI generators. And, they have the annoying habit of developing burn-in... much like CRTs if a constant image is displayed. I used to work for a TV network that used plasma displays as part of studio set decorations, and they quickly discovered that using a plasma display for an identifying graphic (a logo or some such) resulted in major burn-in, in part because they pushed the brightness of the display, so that it could be picked up by studio cameras in a brightly lit set. RFI was not a big concern at the TV studio, but there have been many stories of neighbors who purchased a plasma TV set that happened to ruin their radio reception... as well as the HF activity of nearby amateurs. 73 de Ray K2ULR KX3 #211 -Original Message- From: Gary Smith To: Elecraft Sent: Wed, Nov 7, 2018 1:39 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question Jim, Ditch the Plasmas and be sure they leave your neighborhood. I've got one of those insanely oversize LG OLED TVs and it puts out zero RFI that I can see on the P3. I did a lot of testing during the free return period just to be sure I wasn't bringing a noise generator into the house, and it's excellent in all ways. Also, it uses so little power compared to a much smaller Vizio TV, The glass is cool to the touch and the processor compartment is slightly warm at most. OLED can produce a lot of brightness and power consumption relates to brightness so how you set it up matters energy-wise, but your Plasmas are multiples of the power the OLED uses. One very nice thing with OLED is you see genuine black, no backlit shade of gray, it takes awhile to get used to seeing very accurate color and shading when watching in a darkened room, we don't see that with the other kinds of TV. 73, Gary KA1J > We´ve got three plasma TVs in our home. One is a 9 year old Sony > that is small (by today´s standards) and causes zero RFI on my K3. > Another is a piece of $&$% Samsung that completely rips up 160, 80, > and 40 meters. The third (our main TV) is a Panasonic Viera that up > until tonight has not caused any RFI. But I guess the honeymoon is > over, as 40 meters tonight was unusable while the XYL was watching one > of her shows. > > So, if I can convince her to replace the Panasonic I´m wondering if > folks here have had any RFI issues with the new OLED TVs? We´ve > enjoyed the quality of the plasma TV´s but enough is enough. > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to raysil...@verizon.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
On 11/7/2018 12:38, Gary Smith wrote: Ditch the Plasmas and be sure they leave your neighborhood. I'll second that. I had to buy a neighbor a new TV just to get the plasma one out of the neighborhood. 73, Scott K9MA -- Scott K9MA k...@sdellington.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
Jim, Ditch the Plasmas and be sure they leave your neighborhood. I've got one of those insanely oversize LG OLED TVs and it puts out zero RFI that I can see on the P3. I did a lot of testing during the free return period just to be sure I wasn't bringing a noise generator into the house, and it's excellent in all ways. Also, it uses so little power compared to a much smaller Vizio TV, The glass is cool to the touch and the processor compartment is slightly warm at most. OLED can produce a lot of brightness and power consumption relates to brightness so how you set it up matters energy-wise, but your Plasmas are multiples of the power the OLED uses. One very nice thing with OLED is you see genuine black, no backlit shade of gray, it takes awhile to get used to seeing very accurate color and shading when watching in a darkened room, we don't see that with the other kinds of TV. 73, Gary KA1J > We´ve got three plasma TVs in our home. One is a 9 year old Sony > that is small (by today´s standards) and causes zero RFI on my K3. > Another is a piece of $&$% Samsung that completely rips up 160, 80, > and 40 meters. The third (our main TV) is a Panasonic Viera that up > until tonight has not caused any RFI. But I guess the honeymoon is > over, as 40 meters tonight was unusable while the XYL was watching one > of her shows. > > So, if I can convince her to replace the Panasonic I´m wondering if > folks here have had any RFI issues with the new OLED TVs? We´ve > enjoyed the quality of the plasma TV´s but enough is enough. > > Jim Bennett / W6JHB > Folsom, CA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
Hi Jim, I've never heard any RFI from my 60 inch LG OLED TV. 73 Frank W3LPL - Original Message - From: "James Bennett via Elecraft" To: "Elecraft Reflector Reflector" Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2018 4:03:57 AM Subject: [Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question We’ve got three plasma TVs in our home. One is a 9 year old Sony that is small (by today’s standards) and causes zero RFI on my K3. Another is a piece of $&$% Samsung that completely rips up 160, 80, and 40 meters. The third (our main TV) is a Panasonic Viera that up until tonight has not caused any RFI. But I guess the honeymoon is over, as 40 meters tonight was unusable while the XYL was watching one of her shows. So, if I can convince her to replace the Panasonic I’m wondering if folks here have had any RFI issues with the new OLED TVs? We’ve enjoyed the quality of the plasma TV’s but enough is enough. Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donov...@starpower.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT: TV RFI Question
We’ve got three plasma TVs in our home. One is a 9 year old Sony that is small (by today’s standards) and causes zero RFI on my K3. Another is a piece of $&$% Samsung that completely rips up 160, 80, and 40 meters. The third (our main TV) is a Panasonic Viera that up until tonight has not caused any RFI. But I guess the honeymoon is over, as 40 meters tonight was unusable while the XYL was watching one of her shows. So, if I can convince her to replace the Panasonic I’m wondering if folks here have had any RFI issues with the new OLED TVs? We’ve enjoyed the quality of the plasma TV’s but enough is enough. Jim Bennett / W6JHB Folsom, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
