Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
I use EaseUS. It's a complete package with options for scheduled full backup, incremental backups, continuous backup, disk image, etc. Also can be used to clone disks. Acronis is a very popular backup package for Windows. I used to use it but had several mishaps, including not being able to read old backups. Haven't tried it in a long time. I have EaseUS setup to do a full backup on each disk in my system on the first day of the month, and incremental backups on each disk once a day. The backups are written to a hard drive in a USB dock. I have a set of five of these disks and rotate to the next drive after the last incremental backup of the month. Whenever I visit my safe deposit box, I put one of the disks in the box and retrieve the one that I put in the box last time. That way, I have an offsite backup in case of disaster. It might be a little old, but better than nothing. Further, I have Windows 10 on and SSD and all of my critical data on a separate SSD, including work files, spreadsheets, Quicken data, all my ham radio data (e.g., contest logs), and so forth. This data is continuously copied to the cloud and synced with all my devices so that I have multiple copies of it, including the versions in the hard drive backup rotation. There are many cloud services that can be used for this, but I use Microsoft OneDrive because I get 1 TB of storage free with my subscription to Office 365. It helps to have very high speed internet with fast upload speed (75/15 here, but usually it's more like 90/20.) When apps allow it, I configure them to keep user-specific data on my user data drive. I also try to get them to save their configuration data to my data drive. Unfortunately, some apps don't let you change their data and/or configuration locations. These days it's often in C:\Users\\AppData. I have to be content with that data being backed up to local hard drives only. I've also configured Windows to do a scheduled System Restore Point each day, but it doesn't always work. Typically it's done when updates are applied and sometimes when apps are installed. When I remember, I do one manually. These restore points can be crucial if your system gets messed up by a hardware failure or problem with a Windows update. As you can tell, I'm a proponent of belt-and-suspenders backups. I've been burned many times, going back as far as 1972. First casualty was a term paper, back when most college students used typewriters and virtually no one would have tried to type a paper into a computer. The professor didn't believe me when I told him that a poor design in the syntax of the user interface caused me to accidentally erase the paper. He looked at me like I'd told him my dog ate my homework. 73, Dick WC1M -Original Message- From: John Saxon Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:05 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] OT - backup software I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. 73,JohnK5ENQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
On 2018-09-29 04:09 PM, Grant Youngman wrote: Whatever you use, you need a complete .. e.g., 100 % clone of your hard drive that is BOOTABLE. (USB, firewire, plug-in, Thunderbolt, whatever). Doesn’t matter whether it’s an external drive, a thumb thingie, or whatever. It just has to be bootable. I'm using rsync to do backups. I keep bootable CD's and USB memory sticks containing Linux so I can use them to start up the computer from "bare metal" should the hard drives fail. For anyone using backup programs that aren't stock with their Linux distro I would suggest keeping a backup of the backup program so you can easily reinstall it if/when you use a bootable media to bring up the computer in order to restore drive contents after a failure. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ | "Nerds make the shiny things that https://www.patreon.com/KevinCozens | distract the mouth-breathers, and | that's why we're powerful" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | #include | --Chris Hardwick __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
The fundamental problem with a question like this is that there may be as many answers as there are belly buttons, and since everyone has one … I’ve found that without specific criteria, you can’t always rely on the recommendations you’ll get to solve your problem(s). Whatever you use, you need a complete .. e.g., 100 % clone of your hard drive that is BOOTABLE. (USB, firewire, plug-in, Thunderbolt, whatever). Doesn’t matter whether it’s an external drive, a thumb thingie, or whatever. It just has to be bootable. You didn’t say what your specific concerns are with whatever you’re currently using. It would help to know what you dislike about it or problems it is causing for you. Otherwise, every specific software recommendation is just a shot in the dark and may leave you no better off. Grant NQ5T K3 #2091 KX3 #8342 >> >> >> >> a >>> I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any >>> recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. >>> 73,JohnK5ENQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
Before Eric ends the thread ;) I'll mention Backblaze. It works in the background and backs up to the cloud. And for one PC or Mac it's not expensive. And it stays out of your way and doesn't hurt performance. Other than that... keep your data organized so that it is easy to copy everything that matters periodically to an external drive (set up a calendar reminder). That software is free. 73 jeff wk6i On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Bill wrote: > I run Windows 10 and Linux Mint. I back up data daily to a USB-3 fast > thumb drive (by simple copying of specific directories). Once a week I > clone the drive to a spare drive. Then I use the cloned TO drive and place > the cloned FROM drive in my safe. I have three drives rotating clone > service. This prevents errors in the cloning process (I have never had a > problem). > > I use a device (from StarTech) and not software. My hard drive lives in a > plug-in bay on the computer (accessible from outside the case). > > Had many failures using software - no failures cloning. > > Bill W2BLC > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to wk6i.j...@gmail.com > -- Jeff Stai ~ WK6I ~ wk6i.j...@gmail.com Twisted Oak Winery ~ http://www.twistedoak.com/ Facebook ~ http://www.facebook.com/twistedoak RTTY op at W7RN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
I run Windows 10 and Linux Mint. I back up data daily to a USB-3 fast thumb drive (by simple copying of specific directories). Once a week I clone the drive to a spare drive. Then I use the cloned TO drive and place the cloned FROM drive in my safe. I have three drives rotating clone service. This prevents errors in the cloning process (I have never had a problem). I use a device (from StarTech) and not software. My hard drive lives in a plug-in bay on the computer (accessible from outside the case). Had many failures using software - no failures cloning. Bill W2BLC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
I second /Macrium Reflect/. They offer both a free version (with limited options), as well as 'paid' versions. I use it with Win10, but don't know if it is available for other OS. Dave W8OV On 9/29/2018 6:34 AM, Tim McDonough N9PUZ wrote: Macrium Reflect. Backups plus the ability to perform a "bare metal restore" if your drive goes sideways. Tim N9PUZ On 9/28/2018 8:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft wrote: I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. 73,JohnK5ENQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tim.n9...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dave.w...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
Macrium Reflect. Backups plus the ability to perform a "bare metal restore" if your drive goes sideways. Tim N9PUZ On 9/28/2018 8:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft wrote: I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. 73,JohnK5ENQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tim.n9...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
On my network I wrote a cron job to rsync various work folders. Once a day I sync my work to another drive on my main server. Once a week I sync to a drive on another server. It comes in handy to have a view one week backward in time. Good luck, Kevin. KD5ONS - On 09/28/2018 06:47 PM, Michael Blake via Elecraft wrote: Yes, knowing your OS would help. On my Mac I use Time Machine for hourly/daily backups and SuperDuper for bootable weekly disk images. Mike - K9JRI On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote: If you have a Mac, Carbon Copy Cloner. On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft wrote: I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. 73,JohnK5ENQ Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. cyaffeyno_s...@gmail.com 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k9...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kev...@coho.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
Yes, knowing your OS would help. On my Mac I use Time Machine for hourly/daily backups and SuperDuper for bootable weekly disk images. Mike - K9JRI > On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:36 PM, Carl Yaffey wrote: > > If you have a Mac, Carbon Copy Cloner. > > >> On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft >> wrote: >> >> I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations >> on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. >> 73,JohnK5ENQ >> > > > Carl Yaffey K8NU > Recording studio. > cyaffeyno_s...@gmail.com > 614 268 6353, Columbus OH > http://www.carl-yaffey.com > http://www.grassahol.com > http://www.bluesswing.com > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to k9...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
If you have a Mac, Carbon Copy Cloner. > On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft > wrote: > > I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations > on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. > 73,JohnK5ENQ > Carl Yaffey K8NU Recording studio. cyaffeyno_s...@gmail.com 614 268 6353, Columbus OH http://www.carl-yaffey.com http://www.grassahol.com http://www.bluesswing.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - backup software
It would probably help a lot if you let us know what platform you are using: Mac? Windows? Linux? Raspberry Pi? Jim / W6JHB > On Sep 28, 2018, at 6:04 PM, John Saxon via Elecraft > wrote: > > I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations > on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. > 73,JohnK5ENQ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT - backup software
I am not happy with my current backup software package. Any recommendations on backup software? Like it to be free, but not necessary. 73,JohnK5ENQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
