Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[d...@lightstream.net]

Hi Steve,

I agree that a dot or small vertical line at the bottom of the screen
would work great for this purpose.

The bottom white 'frame' already has small vertical 'tic' marks on it. I
think adding a small tic or dot just beneath that bottom frame would do
the trick. That way, the active part of the screen isn't being painted.

73,
Dale WA8SRA

> All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we
> can
> line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a
> translucent line.
> The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the
> desired signal is headed anyway.
> Great minds at Elecraft can do this!
> Steve N4LQ
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren  wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware.  The P3's
>> hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but
>> it
>> does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not
>> found
>> on traditional SDR systems.   There's really no way to draw a
>> translucent
>> line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a
>> reasonable
>> speed.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> paul
>>
>> Paul Saffren - N6HZ
>> Project Manager
>> Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com
>>
>> On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:
>>
>> Paul et al
>> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?
>>
>> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is
>> half
>> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
>> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or
>> try
>> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
>> other than a rough guess.
>>
>> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
>> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
>> just looking at a locked up system!
>>
>> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
>> mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
>> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
>> configuration?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve N4LQ
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the
>>> bottom
>>> of
>>> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn
>>> averaging
>>> on
>>> to slow the screen updates and provide more history.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Hajo Dezelski]

Hi,

I use 50 Khz or more span only to get an overview. Normally i only use 10
khz and never had problems turning the marker to the waterfall trace, so
that I could catch the station next time it came up.

​73 de ​

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[Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Steve Ellington]

Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works?

I have the P3's waterfall marker turned on. The "marker" slowly crawls down
the screen toward the bottom. Moving the Select knob drags the top of the
marker and the rest slowly follows drawing a snake. Cute but...huh?

Question: What good is this? The reason I would want the marker is to
quickly set it on a signal that has already progressed down the screen. I
can't because basically there's no marker. If I just wait for it, desired
signal is gone.

Why can't the marker in the waterfall just be an extension of the one in
the spectrum so you can use it? Is there some technical reason?

I'm used to using software for this and none of them work like this.

Am I missing a setting somewhere? I've looked hard.


Thanks for listening;

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

Hi Steve, 

That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom of
the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging on
to slow the screen updates and provide more history.  

Kind regards, 

Paul





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Steve Ellington]

Paul et al
"Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?

When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half
way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try
calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
other than a rough guess.

At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
just looking at a locked up system!

The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
configuration?

Thanks
Steve N4LQ

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom
> of
> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging
> on
> to slow the screen updates and provide more history.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Steve Glickstein]

Try Fixed/Tracking and see if that helps.

73, Steve W4FMD


On 11/4/2015 12:32 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:

Paul et al
"Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?

When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half
way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try
calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
other than a rough guess.

At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
just looking at a locked up system!

The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
configuration?

Thanks
Steve N4LQ

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
wrote:


Hi Steve,

That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom
of
the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging
on
to slow the screen updates and provide more history.

Kind regards,

Paul





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Al Lorona]

I think what Steve is asking for is a dot (non-line) marker at the *bottom* of 
the waterfall and that doesn't have persistence (doesn't "leave a trail"), so 
that he can line it up with a scrolling signal and then QSY to it before it 
disappears off the bottom of the screen. It's actually not too bad an idea, 
considering that signals are always heading to the bottom of the waterfall, but 
currently the marker's latest position is at the top of the waterfall.



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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO]

I can usually get close enough to hear the station by eye without a 
marker, either on the P3 or on a 24" VGA.


73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
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On 4 Nov 2015 20:14, Steve Ellington wrote:

All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can
line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a
translucent line.
The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the
desired signal is headed anyway.
Great minds at Elecraft can do this!
Steve N4LQ

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren  wrote:


Hi Steve,

It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware.  The P3's
hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but it
does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not found
on traditional SDR systems.   There's really no way to draw a translucent
line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a reasonable
speed.

Kind regards,

paul

Paul Saffren - N6HZ
Project Manager
Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com

On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:

Paul et al
"Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?

When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half
way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try
calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
other than a rough guess.

At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
just looking at a locked up system!

The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
configuration?

Thanks
Steve N4LQ

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Steve Ellington]

All that's needed is a dot, pointer...something to act as a guide so we can
line up the waterfall with the spectrum's marker. It doesn't need to be a
translucent line.
The dot could be at the bottom of the waterfall since that's where the
desired signal is headed anyway.
Great minds at Elecraft can do this!
Steve N4LQ

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Paul Saffren  wrote:

> Hi Steve,
>
> It's pretty hard to do what you want with the P3 hardware.  The P3's
> hardware is nowhere close to what you can get with a standalone PC, but it
> does alright for a standalone panadapter and offers some features not found
> on traditional SDR systems.   There's really no way to draw a translucent
> line down the waterfall display and still have the P3 run at a reasonable
> speed.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> paul
>
> Paul Saffren - N6HZ
> Project Manager
> Elecraft Inc. 831-763-4211 x122www.elecraft.com
>
> On 11/4/2015 9:32 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:
>
> Paul et al
> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?
>
> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half
> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try
> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
> other than a rough guess.
>
> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
> just looking at a locked up system!
>
> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
> mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
> configuration?
>
> Thanks
> Steve N4LQ
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom
>> of
>> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging
>> on
>> to slow the screen updates and provide more history.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker?

[Steve Ellington]

I always used fixed mode. Nope doesn't help.
There needs to be a marker at least at the bottom of the waterfall so you
can mark the signal before it disappears and shift frequency to it.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Steve Glickstein 
wrote:

> Try Fixed/Tracking and see if that helps.
>
> 73, Steve W4FMD
>
>
> On 11/4/2015 12:32 PM, Steve Ellington wrote:
>
>> Paul et al
>> "Freeze" locks up everything including the marker so how does that help?
>>
>> When searching for signals we might see one on the waterfall that is half
>> way down the screen. We want to mark, click or do something to get us
>> exactly on frequency so we can either wait for the signal to return or try
>> calling QRZ however there doesn't seem to be a way to get on frequency
>> other than a rough guess.
>>
>> At first when you mentioned "freeze" I was excited but now I find that
>> using freeze makes the situation even worse since nothing responds. I'm
>> just looking at a locked up system!
>>
>> The marker needs to be independent of the displayed materialLike a
>> mouse on virtually any other SDR software.
>> Is that something Elecraft can do or is it impossible with this hardware
>> configuration?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Steve N4LQ
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> That's how it works.  If you don't want the signal to roll off the bottom
>>> of
>>> the screen, use Freeze to stop the screen from updating or turn averaging
>>> on
>>> to slow the screen updates and provide more history.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Elecraft] P3 - Waterfall Marker Question

[Steve]

Am I doing something wrong or is this just how it works?

I have the P3's waterfall marker turned on. The "marker" slowly crawls 
down the screen toward the bottom. Moving the Select knob drags the top 
of the marker and the rest slowly follows drawing a snake. Cute but...huh?


Question: What good is this? The reason I would want the marker is to 
quickly set it on a signal that has already progressed down the screen. 
I can't because basically there's no marker. If I just wait for it, 
desired signal is gone.


Why can't the marker in the waterfall just be an extension of the one in 
the spectrum so you can use it? Is there some technical reason?


I'm used to using software for this and none of them work like this.

Am I missing a setting somewhere? I've looked hard.


Thanks for listening;

Steve N4LQ
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