Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread David Cole 
That is exactly how I got V73D as well...  Watching him on the P3 work
people, and pre-positioning myself in front of him...
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 07:09 -0700, Mike K2MK wrote:
> Hi Dave,
> 
> As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
> working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
> spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
> station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
> QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.
> 
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
> 
> 
> 
> dyarnes-2 wrote
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> > the 
> > 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
> > difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
> > every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
> > really 
> > help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
> > changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
> > "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! 
> > Hi. 
> > By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> > easy 
> > thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
> > the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
> > working DX is your goal.
> > 
> > Dave W7AQK 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread Bill Frantz 

On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, w7...@cox.net (w7aqk) wrote:

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it 
without using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 
2nd RX always seems to be the difference.


I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first 
place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX 
pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station 
transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the 
ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting). 
I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open 
place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.


OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was 
wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button 
hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI


73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread David Cole 
Then just wait for some poor person to transmit on top of the DX, in
error, and look for all the band cops sending UP UP UP, and you can find
the DX frequency as well.  :)
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On Wed, 2015-10-14 at 10:03 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote:
> On 10/14/15 at 6:27 AM, w7...@cox.net (w7aqk) wrote:
> 
> >I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it 
> >without using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 
> >2nd RX always seems to be the difference.
> 
> I find the P3 is really good for finding the DX in the first 
> place. (I am frequently in places with no Internet access.) A DX 
> pileup has a special look on the P3 with one (weak) station 
> transmitting and then the pileup coming back (except for the 
> ones who aren't listening to the DX and are just transmitting). 
> I agree with Mike that the P3 is also good for finding an open 
> place to transmit, particularly valuable when doing RTTY.
> 
> OTOH, I have a brand new 2nd receiver and diversity was 
> wonderful in the California QSO party. It beats the REV button 
> hands down. I would go with the P3 first. HIHI
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
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> CA 95032
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread Ken 
I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming 
that it can pick out the call signs.  Of course that would only work for 
CW DX.


Ken WA8JXM

On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:
I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without 
using the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always 
seems to be the difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly 
after just about every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The 
DX clusters don't really help that much.  By the time you see the 
split indicated, it has probably changed a good bit.  If I didn't have 
the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force, 
neither of which is a strong suit here!  Hi. By the way, my QSO's with 
the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy thanks to the 2nd 
RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding the 2nd RX 
first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if working DX 
is your goal. 


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread F5vjc 
Of course that would only work for CW DX.

Is there any other?

73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 14 October 2015 at 22:39, Ken  wrote:

> I wonder if a CW skimmer would work as well or even better, assuming that
> it can pick out the call signs.  Of course that would only work for CW DX.
>
> Ken WA8JXM
>
> On 10/14/15 9:27 AM, w7aqk wrote:
>
>> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
>> the 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be
>> the difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about
>> every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
>> really help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has
>> probably changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be
>> dependent on "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong
>> suit here!  Hi. By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and
>> relatively easy thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I
>> suggest adding the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at
>> least if working DX is your goal.
>>
>
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[Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread w7aqk 

Hi All,

I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using the 
2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't really 
help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
"outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here!  Hi. 
By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively easy 
thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
working DX is your goal.


Dave W7AQK 


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Vs. 2nd RX

2015-10-14 Thread Mike K2MK 
Hi Dave,

As you described, having both a Sub RX and a P3 are a great asset for
working split operations. One area where the P3 excels is finding a quiet
spot to transmit. It's not always as obvious with the Sub RX. With a modest
station it may not be beneficial to jump on the exact frequency of the last
QSO. A clear frequency can be a better choice.

73,
Mike K2MK



dyarnes-2 wrote
> Hi All,
> 
> I just worked V73D, but not sure how I would have done it without using
> the 
> 2nd RX.  I love my P3, but for DX stuff the 2nd RX always seems to be the 
> difference.  In this case, V73D was moving up slightly after just about 
> every QSO, and not sure the P3 tells you that!  The DX clusters don't
> really 
> help that much.  By the time you see the split indicated, it has probably 
> changed a good bit.  If I didn't have the 2nd RX, I would be dependent on 
> "outhouse luck" or brute force, neither of which is a strong suit here! 
> Hi. 
> By the way, my QSO's with the TX3X gang were also quick and relatively
> easy 
> thanks to the 2nd RX.  Anyway, both tools are great, but I suggest adding 
> the 2nd RX first, if only one can be added at the moment--at least if 
> working DX is your goal.
> 
> Dave W7AQK 





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