Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-05 Thread Grant Youngman
That was quick :)

And yes, I AM enjoying the PX3. 

Many thanks, Paul!

Grant NQ5T

> On May 5, 2016, at 9:24 AM, Paul Saffren N6HZ  wrote:
> 
> Hi Grant, 
> 
> Glad you are enjoying your PX3.   The PX3's display driver hardware limits
> the maximum size of the waterfall window.  The text display window, when
> active, uses part of the waterfall window.   In the next revision of PX3
> firmware you'll see that I added support to keep track of the waterfall
> heights with regards to the different modes.   This feature and others
> including alternate keys for scratchpad, will be available in the next beta
> release.  
> 
> Very 73, 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-05 Thread Paul Saffren N6HZ
Hi Grant, 

Glad you are enjoying your PX3.   The PX3's display driver hardware limits
the maximum size of the waterfall window.  The text display window, when
active, uses part of the waterfall window.   In the next revision of PX3
firmware you'll see that I added support to keep track of the waterfall
heights with regards to the different modes.   This feature and others
including alternate keys for scratchpad, will be available in the next beta
release.  

Very 73, 

Paul 





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Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-03 Thread kf5wbo
Hi Grant,
Yes, that's what I meant by "...  maintaining / deriving the capped Waterfall 
local variable separately / independently."  I'm sure Paul will acknowledge it 
as a bug and fix it.
JoeKF5WBO
  From: GRANT YOUNGMAN 
 To: wickedbeernut  
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42
   
Sounds rational.  It does seem to me that the most logical approach, presuming 
all of this is the case, would be to always pull the Waterfall height from 
EEPROM, cap it when necessary in text decode mode, and otherwise leave it the 
stored value.  That would solve it.

Thanks … Grant NQ5T


> 
> 
> You're pointing out that if text decode is turned off, the Text menu /
> Waterfall value is not restored (i.e., not re-read from the EEPROM).
> 
> If you power the PX3 off and on, the Text menu / Waterfall value is re-read
> from the EEPROM.  If text decode is off, the Waterfall local variable is not
> capped.  The Waterfall local variable is 139.
> 


  
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-03 Thread wickedbeernut
Holding the MENU / LABELS switch toggles between 0 (FN key labels off), 1 (FN
key labels on) and 2 (text decode on).

Tapping the DISP / AVERAGE switch toggles between 0 (spectrum only) and 1
(spectrum + waterfall).

With text decode off, the Waterfall window height range is 20 - 139.

With text decode on, the Waterfall window height range depends on the Text
menu / Txt Font,

  5x7:  20 - 130
7x11:  20 - 100
9x14:  20 - 80

I assume the Text menu / Waterfall value is read from the EEPROM into a
"local variable" at the time the PX3 is powered on.  With text decode on,
the Waterfall local variable is (potentially) "capped" based on the Text
menu / Txt Font.  Note:  This doesn't change the Text menu / Waterfall value
stored in the EEPROM.  For example, if the Text menu / Waterfall value is
139, Text menu / Txt Font is 7x11 and text decode is on,  the Waterfall
local variable is capped at 100.

You're pointing out that if text decode is turned off, the Text menu /
Waterfall value is not restored (i.e., not re-read from the EEPROM).

If you power the PX3 off and on, the Text menu / Waterfall value is re-read
from the EEPROM.  If text decode is off, the Waterfall local variable is not
capped.  The Waterfall local variable is 139.

Paul can address whether the Text menu / Waterfall value can be re-read from
the EEPROM in turning text decode off or possibly maintaining / deriving the
capped Waterfall local variable separately / independently.

Joe
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Grant,

The reason it limits the waterfall to 100 in mode 3 is to make more room 
for the text decode.


Why the maximum value does not go back to 139 when you cycle around to 
1) again is not something I can make any statements about.  Perhaps Paul 
S will comment (bug or 'feature').


Finding things of this nature is what the beta version is all about.  
You might want to email Paul directly pauls at you-know-where dot com 
with your report in case he is not monitoring the reflector at this time.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/3/2016 6:37 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:

I haven’t tried this on previous firmware versions, but it does exist in the 
current beta.  Looked through Nabble and didn’t see anything related, but might 
have missed it.  Just started playing with digi modes so haven’t haven’t had a 
need to look at this previously.

A long press on the MENU button will toggle between the three display modes (1) 
Spectrum/Waterfall, (2) Spectrum/Waterfall/Button-Menu, (3) 
Spectrum/Waterfall/Text.

When in mode (1) above, the maximum Waterfall height can be adjusted to 139.  
Same in mode (2) above.  However, in mode (3) above the Waterfall height can 
only be set to a maximum of 100 (which is still a reasonable display, but does 
not follow the pattern).

However … let’s say we set the Waterfall to 139 in mode (1).  If I toggle to 
mode (2), the Waterfall height remains at 139.  If I toggle to mode (3), the 
Waterfall height reverts to 100.  And then the next toggle, which goes back to 
mode (1), RESETS the Waterfall height to 100 instead of holding it at the 
previously set 139.

If I then POWER OFF the KX3, and power it back on, the Waterfall height in mode 
(1) RETURNS TO 139.  Until I cycle around the options again …




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[Elecraft] PX3: Apparent "bug" fw 1.42

2016-05-03 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN
I haven’t tried this on previous firmware versions, but it does exist in the 
current beta.  Looked through Nabble and didn’t see anything related, but might 
have missed it.  Just started playing with digi modes so haven’t haven’t had a 
need to look at this previously.

A long press on the MENU button will toggle between the three display modes (1) 
Spectrum/Waterfall, (2) Spectrum/Waterfall/Button-Menu, (3) 
Spectrum/Waterfall/Text.

When in mode (1) above, the maximum Waterfall height can be adjusted to 139.  
Same in mode (2) above.  However, in mode (3) above the Waterfall height can 
only be set to a maximum of 100 (which is still a reasonable display, but does 
not follow the pattern).

However … let’s say we set the Waterfall to 139 in mode (1).  If I toggle to 
mode (2), the Waterfall height remains at 139.  If I toggle to mode (3), the 
Waterfall height reverts to 100.  And then the next toggle, which goes back to 
mode (1), RESETS the Waterfall height to 100 instead of holding it at the 
previously set 139.

If I then POWER OFF the KX3, and power it back on, the Waterfall height in mode 
(1) RETURNS TO 139.  Until I cycle around the options again … 

Something isn’t working right … a setting is getting lost or reset 
inadvertently.

Can anyone else verify this behavior?  Any input from the PX3 folks?  Is this a 
bug, or am I missing something?

Thanks … 


Grant NQ5T
K3 #2091, KX3 #8342




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