[Elecraft] RIT behavior when computer controlled / Possible Feature Request

2013-04-29 Thread K7MJG
Hello,

I'm curious if RIT on the KX3 should behave the way it does when under
computer control. (CAT commands.)

As a basis for comparison, this workflow does exactly what I would expect.

1. Tune to a CW transmit frequency.
2. Press and hold the [OFS/VFO B] button to clear RIT.
3. Press the [RIT] button to enable RIT.
4. Call CQ, operator responds off frequency.
5. Adjust the [OFS/VFO B] button to get the receive frequency close.
6. Press the [SPOT] button to zero in on the precise receive frequency.  

(Transmit frequency remains as it was originally.)

Steps 5 and 6 work fine, although precious seconds are gone during this
process, and, depending on how close I get with step 5 (and the filter
setting), the SPOT could hunt for additional seconds.  During the SPOT
process, the RIT offset adjustments are continuously displayed in the VFO B
screen area.  This works, but is time-inefficient.  (I will probably miss
their call sign.)

My particular (preferred) scenario:

I am 100% a CW operator. I use CW Skimmer, basically as my panadapter. CW
Skimmer, using CAT commands, can snap the KX3 to a precise receive frequency
with a mouse click. (Basically the same effect as SPOT, but quicker.)

Assume that steps 1 through 4 are the same as above.  Instead of steps 5 and
6, I would like to be able to click on a the operator's off-frequency
response within CW Skimmer and have the KX3 behave the same as the [SPOT]
button. After all, they are essentially the same thing, one just happens to
be driven remotely (CAT Command), the other using a local button press (SPOT
button).  However, the KX3 changes the receive frequency, but does not
adjust the RIT offset.  So what that means is the new receive frequency is
now the transmit frequency.  Not what I would expect with RIT in effect.

Is there a setting to get the behavior that I want?  If not, I would like to
kindly put in an enhancement request.

73, 
Mark
K7MJG




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Re: [Elecraft] RIT behavior when computer controlled / Possible Feature Request

2013-04-29 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mark,

I believe the results of what you are seeing is dependent on the 
commands issued by CW Skimmer.  The KX3 can do as you request if it is 
given the correct commands (in the correct order).  You might want to 
ask the CW Skimmer folks to implement your request.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/29/2013 8:24 PM, K7MJG wrote:

Hello,

I'm curious if RIT on the KX3 should behave the way it does when under
computer control. (CAT commands.)

As a basis for comparison, this workflow does exactly what I would expect.

1. Tune to a CW transmit frequency.
2. Press and hold the [OFS/VFO B] button to clear RIT.
3. Press the [RIT] button to enable RIT.
4. Call CQ, operator responds off frequency.
5. Adjust the [OFS/VFO B] button to get the receive frequency close.
6. Press the [SPOT] button to zero in on the precise receive frequency.

(Transmit frequency remains as it was originally.)

Steps 5 and 6 work fine, although precious seconds are gone during this
process, and, depending on how close I get with step 5 (and the filter
setting), the SPOT could hunt for additional seconds.  During the SPOT
process, the RIT offset adjustments are continuously displayed in the VFO B
screen area.  This works, but is time-inefficient.  (I will probably miss
their call sign.)

My particular (preferred) scenario:

I am 100% a CW operator. I use CW Skimmer, basically as my panadapter. CW
Skimmer, using CAT commands, can snap the KX3 to a precise receive frequency
with a mouse click. (Basically the same effect as SPOT, but quicker.)

Assume that steps 1 through 4 are the same as above.  Instead of steps 5 and
6, I would like to be able to click on a the operator's off-frequency
response within CW Skimmer and have the KX3 behave the same as the [SPOT]
button. After all, they are essentially the same thing, one just happens to
be driven remotely (CAT Command), the other using a local button press (SPOT
button).  However, the KX3 changes the receive frequency, but does not
adjust the RIT offset.  So what that means is the new receive frequency is
now the transmit frequency.  Not what I would expect with RIT in effect.

Is there a setting to get the behavior that I want?  If not, I would like to
kindly put in an enhancement request.



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Re: [Elecraft] RIT behavior when computer controlled / Possible Feature Request

2013-04-29 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Hi Mark,

The KX3 is doing exactly what it's being told to do - i.e. change its
VFO A frequency to whatever you clicked on. CW Skimmer assumes that
you will be listening to the audio that it decodes from the I/F, and
not the audio coming from the radio's receiver. If you want CW Skimmer
to attempt to manipulate the KX3's RIT, you'd have to request that
from VE3NEA (CW Skimmer author), but I can't see it happening.

As a workaround, you could turn on Split and set VFO B to the same as
A (AB), then when you click on an off-frequency caller, your receive
frequency will change but your transmit will not.

73,

~iain / N6ML



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM, K7MJG mgl...@cox.net wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm curious if RIT on the KX3 should behave the way it does when under
 computer control. (CAT commands.)

 As a basis for comparison, this workflow does exactly what I would expect.

 1. Tune to a CW transmit frequency.
 2. Press and hold the [OFS/VFO B] button to clear RIT.
 3. Press the [RIT] button to enable RIT.
 4. Call CQ, operator responds off frequency.
 5. Adjust the [OFS/VFO B] button to get the receive frequency close.
 6. Press the [SPOT] button to zero in on the precise receive frequency.

 (Transmit frequency remains as it was originally.)

 Steps 5 and 6 work fine, although precious seconds are gone during this
 process, and, depending on how close I get with step 5 (and the filter
 setting), the SPOT could hunt for additional seconds.  During the SPOT
 process, the RIT offset adjustments are continuously displayed in the VFO B
 screen area.  This works, but is time-inefficient.  (I will probably miss
 their call sign.)

 My particular (preferred) scenario:

 I am 100% a CW operator. I use CW Skimmer, basically as my panadapter. CW
 Skimmer, using CAT commands, can snap the KX3 to a precise receive frequency
 with a mouse click. (Basically the same effect as SPOT, but quicker.)

 Assume that steps 1 through 4 are the same as above.  Instead of steps 5 and
 6, I would like to be able to click on a the operator's off-frequency
 response within CW Skimmer and have the KX3 behave the same as the [SPOT]
 button. After all, they are essentially the same thing, one just happens to
 be driven remotely (CAT Command), the other using a local button press (SPOT
 button).  However, the KX3 changes the receive frequency, but does not
 adjust the RIT offset.  So what that means is the new receive frequency is
 now the transmit frequency.  Not what I would expect with RIT in effect.

 Is there a setting to get the behavior that I want?  If not, I would like to
 kindly put in an enhancement request.

 73,
 Mark
 K7MJG




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Re: [Elecraft] RIT behavior when computer controlled / Possible Feature Request

2013-04-29 Thread K7MJG
Iain,

 

Thank you!   SPLIT is the perfect solution for my scenario and much better than
what I was trying to get RIT to do. 

 

73,

Mark

K7MJG

 

From: Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2 [via Elecraft]
[mailto:ml-node+s365791n7573250...@n2.nabble.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:48 PM
To: K7MJG
Subject: Re: RIT behavior when computer controlled / Possible Feature Request

 

Hi Mark, 

The KX3 is doing exactly what it's being told to do - i.e. change its 
VFO A frequency to whatever you clicked on. CW Skimmer assumes that 
you will be listening to the audio that it decodes from the I/F, and 
not the audio coming from the radio's receiver. If you want CW Skimmer 
to attempt to manipulate the KX3's RIT, you'd have to request that 
from VE3NEA (CW Skimmer author), but I can't see it happening. 

As a workaround, you could turn on Split and set VFO B to the same as 
A (AB), then when you click on an off-frequency caller, your receive 
frequency will change but your transmit will not. 

73, 

~iain / N6ML 



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:24 PM, K7MJG [hidden email] wrote: 


 Hello, 
 
 I'm curious if RIT on the KX3 should behave the way it does when under 
 computer control. (CAT commands.) 
 
 As a basis for comparison, this workflow does exactly what I would expect. 
 
 1. Tune to a CW transmit frequency. 
 2. Press and hold the [OFS/VFO B] button to clear RIT. 
 3. Press the [RIT] button to enable RIT. 
 4. Call CQ, operator responds off frequency. 
 5. Adjust the [OFS/VFO B] button to get the receive frequency close. 
 6. Press the [SPOT] button to zero in on the precise receive frequency. 
 
 (Transmit frequency remains as it was originally.) 
 
 Steps 5 and 6 work fine, although precious seconds are gone during this 
 process, and, depending on how close I get with step 5 (and the filter 
 setting), the SPOT could hunt for additional seconds.  During the SPOT 
 process, the RIT offset adjustments are continuously displayed in the VFO B 
 screen area.  This works, but is time-inefficient.  (I will probably miss 
 their call sign.) 
 
 My particular (preferred) scenario: 
 
 I am 100% a CW operator. I use CW Skimmer, basically as my panadapter. CW 
 Skimmer, using CAT commands, can snap the KX3 to a precise receive frequency 
 with a mouse click. (Basically the same effect as SPOT, but quicker.) 
 
 Assume that steps 1 through 4 are the same as above.  Instead of steps 5 and 
 6, I would like to be able to click on a the operator's off-frequency 
 response within CW Skimmer and have the KX3 behave the same as the [SPOT] 
 button. After all, they are essentially the same thing, one just happens to 
 be driven remotely (CAT Command), the other using a local button press (SPOT 
 button).  However, the KX3 changes the receive frequency, but does not 
 adjust the RIT offset.  So what that means is the new receive frequency is 
 now the transmit frequency.  Not what I would expect with RIT in effect. 
 
 Is there a setting to get the behavior that I want?  If not, I would like to 
 kindly put in an enhancement request. 
 
 73, 
 Mark 
 K7MJG 
 
 
 
 
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