Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation with a K3/0 and PTT

[Gerry Hull]

Hey Serge,

Long time no talk.

Check the I/O settings on the Remote RRC web page.
You have to assign one of them correctly for the 1/8" PTT
to work correctly.

73, Gerry W1VE / VE1RM

Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
Member: ARRL, YCCC, YCCCN, CW Ops
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On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Serge_VA3SB  wrote:

> Hello to the group.
>
> I have a remote setup using Remote rig boxes along with a K3s, KAT500 and
> KPA500.
> All seems to be playing well.
> I have a question regarding the use of a foot switch with the K3/0. I am
> not
> able to figure out how to use a foot switch for SSB operation rather than
> VOX. I am using a Heil Pro Set headset. I would prefer to use the foot
> switch if at all possible.
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you
>
> Serge
> VA3SB
>
>
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[Elecraft] Remote operation with a K3/0 and PTT

[Serge_VA3SB]

Hello to the group. 

I have a remote setup using Remote rig boxes along with a K3s, KAT500 and
KPA500. 
All seems to be playing well. 
I have a question regarding the use of a foot switch with the K3/0. I am not
able to figure out how to use a foot switch for SSB operation rather than
VOX. I am using a Heil Pro Set headset. I would prefer to use the foot
switch if at all possible. 
Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
Thank you

Serge
VA3SB



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[Elecraft] Remote operation of a K3

[W0WFH Bill]

Hi all;

I would like to remote my K3 station via the internet.  With out spend lots of 
money.

I know there are several programs available that clam remote operation but they 

don't tell you what else you got to buy.  


Back in the 90's I used a program called PC anywhere to access my office 
computer
from any where it worked fairly well.  An I see it still available is anyone 
using it to
access your host computer in your shack?  


I am open to suggestion from anyone who has a K3 up and running,  


One more thing I am disabled an right now I can get out to my shack via a 
wheelchair,  But
I done know when I will be confined to my bed most of the time,  An before that
happens I would like to get the K3 station remoted. 


Please all suggestion keep off the reflector and answer me direct at 
w0...@yahoo.com .
Thanks
Bill W0WFH
Linn, Mo
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of a K3

[PKA]

I have sent a description of my low cost set-up to Bill.
Recently I have added the two-Winkeyer solution so I can operate remotely using 
a paddle. I can recommend it.
Write to me off-list if you want the short description.

OZ4UN
Poul-Erik

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Fra: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] 
På vegne af W0WFH Bill
Sendt: 8. april 2014 10:30
Til: elecraft forum
Emne: [Elecraft] Remote operation of a K3

Hi all;

I would like to remote my K3 station via the internet.  With out spend lots of 
money.

I know there are several programs available that clam remote operation but they 

don't tell you what else you got to buy.  


Back in the 90's I used a program called PC anywhere to access my office 
computer from any where it worked fairly well.  An I see it still available is 
anyone using it to access your host computer in your shack?  


I am open to suggestion from anyone who has a K3 up and running,  


One more thing I am disabled an right now I can get out to my shack via a 
wheelchair,  But I done know when I will be confined to my bed most of the 
time,  An before that happens I would like to get the K3 station remoted. 


Please all suggestion keep off the reflector and answer me direct at 
w0...@yahoo.com .
Thanks
Bill W0WFH
Linn, Mo
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[Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

[Dick Diddams]

 

Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely outside
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.  

 

Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)

 

The questions asked K3 Support: 

Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB. 

 

 

Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable

 

 

Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles.

 

 

Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?

 

 

The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service. 

 

As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?

 

My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.

 

If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there used Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?

 

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Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net

 

PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

[Josh Fiden]

Hi Dick,

200 ft is not a long distance at HF. If you're already going to run a 
cable from the operating position to near the antenna anyway, why not 
just use a low loss feedline? LMR400 or equiv is only around -1.5dB at 
10m. If that's unacceptable, you can find 1/2 hardline for much less 
than your proposed solutions.


73,
Josh W6XU

On 3/9/2013 8:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:
  


Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely outside
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.

  


Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)

  


The questions asked K3 Support:

Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB.

  

  


Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable

  

  


Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles.

  

  


Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?

  

  


The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service.

  


As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?

  


My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.

  


If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there used Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?

  


When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
Approximately once each day, the Junk Folder will be viewed and your
address will be added to the Address Book.

  


Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net

  


PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

  


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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above

 questions - possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

The internet did not provide any answers to the above questions
because the configuration proposed is not feasible.  The P3
requires access via RS-232 to the K3 CAT commands and access via
the KXV3 or KXV3A to the receiver IF.  This means the P3 must be
collocated with the K3.  However, the display (and controls) is not 
remoteable nor is there a slave P3/0 equivalent to a K3/0.


There are, to the best of my knowledge, no off the shelf internet
remote operating systems that support the P3.

The standard solution for your needs - used my many many amateurs -
is to locate the equipment at the control point and use a large
diameter (7/8 or 1 5/8) hardline with a remote antenna switch
(generally with N+1 control lines where N=number of antenna ports).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2013 11:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:



Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely outside
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.



Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)



The questions asked K3 Support:

Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB.





Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable





Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles.





Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?





The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service.



As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?



My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.



If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there used Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?



When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
Approximately once each day, the Junk Folder will be viewed and your
address will be added to the Address Book.



Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net



PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!



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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

[Walter Underwood]

That was my thought. Put the amplifier at the remote spot, run coax to it, and 
use an RS-232 extender for the control lines, if needed.

wunder
K6WRU

On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Josh Fiden wrote:

 Hi Dick,
 
 200 ft is not a long distance at HF. If you're already going to run a cable 
 from the operating position to near the antenna anyway, why not just use a 
 low loss feedline? LMR400 or equiv is only around -1.5dB at 10m. If that's 
 unacceptable, you can find 1/2 hardline for much less than your proposed 
 solutions.
 
 73,
 Josh W6XU
 
 On 3/9/2013 8:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:
  
 Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
 application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely outside
 the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.
 
  
 Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
 needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)
 
  
 The questions asked K3 Support:
 
 Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
 application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
 distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB.
 
  
  
 Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
 operation via cable
 
  
  
 Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
 direction where to locate articles.
 
  
  
 Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
 regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?
 
  
  
 The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
 about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
 controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
 240-volt service.
 
  
 As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
 Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
 to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
 to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
 remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
 when operating remote?
 
  
 My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
 for the remote operation.
 
  
 If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
 operation, are there used Remote Internet System readily available and
 what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
 price?
 
  
 When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
 communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
 until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
 Approximately once each day, the Junk Folder will be viewed and your
 address will be added to the Address Book.
 
  
 Regards, Dick - W7QHE
 
 dickdiddams at earthlink.net
 
  
 PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
 possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Hi Dick,

Which address did you write to at support and when were the emails sent? We try 
to respond to --all- support emails. (Though it can take a day or more if we 
are receiving a lot of emails and calls.) Sometimes there is a typo in the 
support address used by the user which can also block it from getting to us. 
Other times we have seen our replies get caught in the customer's spam filter. 

Also, if anyone emails support and does not get a response, please email 
sa...@elecraft.com to let them know. You can also call us on the phone is all 
else fails. We're here to help.
In any case, I'll talk to our support team about this Monday.

Regards,

Eric
elecraft.com
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On Mar 9, 2013, at 8:54 AM, Dick Diddams dickdidd...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
 application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely outside
 the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.  
 
 
 
 Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
 needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)
 
 
 
 The questions asked K3 Support: 
 
 Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
 application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
 distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB. 
 
 
 
 
 
 Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
 operation via cable
 
 
 
 
 
 Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
 direction where to locate articles.
 
 
 
 
 
 Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
 regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?
 
 
 
 
 
 The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
 about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
 controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
 240-volt service. 
 
 
 
 As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
 Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
 to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
 to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
 remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
 when operating remote?
 
 
 
 My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
 for the remote operation.
 
 
 
 If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
 operation, are there used Remote Internet System readily available and
 what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
 price?
 
 
 
 When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
 communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
 until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
 Approximately once each day, the Junk Folder will be viewed and your
 address will be added to the Address Book.
 
 
 
 Regards, Dick - W7QHE
 
 dickdiddams at earthlink.net
 
 
 
 PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
 possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!
 
 
 
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