Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-11 Thread Paul Van Dyke
Ya got to watch for the staples!!

  Grinning

Paul KB9AVO

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 8:08 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 9/11/2020 1:48 PM, Ed Pflueger wrote:
> > What am I going to take to the outhouse to read?
>
> Back is WV where I grew up it was known as "the catalog department,"
> where the older (and less desirable ) catalogs served a function other
> than reading.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-11 Thread Jim Brown

On 9/11/2020 1:48 PM, Ed Pflueger wrote:

What am I going to take to the outhouse to read?


Back is WV where I grew up it was known as "the catalog department," 
where the older (and less desirable ) catalogs served a function other 
than reading.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-11 Thread Ed Pflueger
Does that mean there will be no hard bound manual?  The last Ice storm we
had in W. KY we had no internet for 28 days at least at my house and others
was longer.  What am I going to take to the outhouse to read?  LOL

Ed.. AB4IQ

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Subject: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the
bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen,
but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.

There are three major documents in the works:

1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual

This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external
monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the
lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.

For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late
next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going
through 60 pages of text, trying every link. 

In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct
hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST
CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with
the last operation performed.

2. K4 Owner's Manual 

Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual
will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed
.pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have
been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations.

The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual,
so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed.

3. K4 Programmer's Reference

An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few
developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for
the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're
trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can
take advantage of all of the new features.

* * *

If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't
answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly
(though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than
usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).

As usual, thanks for your patience. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-11 Thread Rich NE1EE
On 2020-09-10 20:08:-0700, you wrote:
>All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software.
>
>Wayne
>N6KR

Will you preserve historical versions for those who don't have upgrades? I 
haven't looked on the Elecraft website to see if there are version-specific 
manuals for other products.

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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
Definitely.

Wayne


> On Sep 10, 2020, at 8:15 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> I would like to see the use of change bars, highlighted text, or at least a 
> change summary in each new release of the online manual--at least after the 
> early rapid changes settle down.  
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
> 
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 8:10 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I  wrote:
> > 
> > Wayne,
> > 
> > When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now 
> > include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most 
> > current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that 
> > rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware.
> > 
> > 73, stay safe,
> > Rick NK7I
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> >> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm 
> >> the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, 
> >> but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
> >> 
> >> There are three major documents in the works:
> >> 
> >> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual
> >> 
> >> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external 
> >> monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the 
> >> lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.
> >> 
> >> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, 
> >> late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind 
> >> going through 60 pages of text, trying every link.
> >> 
> >> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct 
> >> hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST 
> >> CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated 
> >> with the last operation performed.
> >> 
> >> 2. K4 Owner's Manual
> >> 
> >> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual 
> >> will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and 
> >> indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 
> >> users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same 
> >> illustrations.
> >> 
> >> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's 
> >> manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is 
> >> blessed.
> >> 
> >> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference
> >> 
> >> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few 
> >> developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for 
> >> the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're 
> >> trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can 
> >> take advantage of all of the new features.
> >> 
> >> * * *
> >> 
> >> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't 
> >> answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly 
> >> (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than 
> >> usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).
> >> 
> >> As usual, thanks for your patience.
> >> 
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Eric Norris
I would like to see the use of change bars, highlighted text, or at least a
change summary in each new release of the online manual--at least after the
early rapid changes settle down.

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 8:10 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I  wrote:
> >
> > Wayne,
> >
> > When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now
> include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most
> current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that
> rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware.
> >
> > 73, stay safe,
> > Rick NK7I
> >
> >
> > On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> >> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic.
> I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to
> happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
> >>
> >> There are three major documents in the works:
> >>
> >> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual
> >>
> >> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external
> monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the
> lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.
> >>
> >> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact,
> late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind
> going through 60 pages of text, trying every link.
> >>
> >> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct
> hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST
> CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated
> with the last operation performed.
> >>
> >> 2. K4 Owner's Manual
> >>
> >> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's
> manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and
> indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4
> users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same
> illustrations.
> >>
> >> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's
> manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is
> blessed.
> >>
> >> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference
> >>
> >> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few
> developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for
> the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're
> trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can
> take advantage of all of the new features.
> >>
> >> * * *
> >>
> >> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't
> answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly
> (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than
> usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).
> >>
> >> As usual, thanks for your patience.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software.

Wayne
N6KR

> On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I  wrote:
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now 
> include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most 
> current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that 
> rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware.
> 
> 73, stay safe,
> Rick NK7I
> 
> 
> On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the 
>> bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, 
>> but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
>> 
>> There are three major documents in the works:
>> 
>> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual
>> 
>> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external 
>> monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the 
>> lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.
>> 
>> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late 
>> next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going 
>> through 60 pages of text, trying every link.
>> 
>> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct 
>> hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST 
>> CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with 
>> the last operation performed.
>> 
>> 2. K4 Owner's Manual
>> 
>> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual 
>> will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed 
>> .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have 
>> been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations.
>> 
>> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, 
>> so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed.
>> 
>> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference
>> 
>> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few 
>> developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for 
>> the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're 
>> trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can 
>> take advantage of all of the new features.
>> 
>> * * *
>> 
>> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't 
>> answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly 
>> (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than 
>> usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).
>> 
>> As usual, thanks for your patience.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
100% manual completion is not a prerequisite to shipping. We're temporarily 
using the early versions, and working hard to get the finished versions ready.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:56 PM, David Box  wrote:
> 
> What manuals must be completed before hardware ships.
> My interpretation is hardware will not ship this month.
> 
> de Dave K5MWR 
> 
> On September 10, 2020 7:28:21 PM MDT, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the 
> bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, 
> but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
> 
> There are three major documents in the works:
> 
> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual
> 
> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external 
> monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the 
> lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.
> 
> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late 
> next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going 
> through 60 pages of text, trying every link. 
> 
> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct 
> hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" 
> button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last 
> operation performed.
> 
> 2. K4 Owner's Manual 
> 
> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will 
> be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf 
> file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been 
> using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations.
> 
> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, 
> so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed.
> 
> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference
> 
> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few 
> developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for 
> the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're 
> trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take 
> advantage of all of the new features.
> 
> * * *
> 
> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't 
> answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly 
> (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, 
> so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).
> 
> As usual, thanks for your patience. 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Rick NK7I

Wayne,

When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now 
include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most 
current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that 
rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware.


73, stay safe,
Rick NK7I


On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the 
bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, 
but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.

There are three major documents in the works:

1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual

This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to 
it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.

For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late 
next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going 
through 60 pages of text, trying every link.

In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached 
to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you 
directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed.

2. K4 Owner's Manual

Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will 
be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf 
file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using 
a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations.

The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so 
I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed.

3. K4 Programmer's Reference

An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few 
developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the 
K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to 
expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage 
of all of the new features.

* * *

If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer 
above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I 
have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't 
guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).

As usual, thanks for your patience.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread David Box
What manuals must be completed before hardware ships.
My interpretation is hardware will not ship this month.

de Dave K5MWR 

On September 10, 2020 7:28:21 PM MDT, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic.
>I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to
>happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
>
>There are three major documents in the works:
>
>1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual
>
>This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external
>monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the
>lower-left-hand corner of the LCD.
>
>For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact,
>late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't
>mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. 
>
>In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct
>hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST
>CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated
>with the last operation performed.
>
>2. K4 Owner's Manual 
>
>Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's
>manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable
>and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early
>K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the
>same illustrations.
>
>The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's
>manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former
>is blessed.
>
>3. K4 Programmer's Reference
>
>An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few
>developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available
>for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But
>we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so
>developers can take advantage of all of the new features.
>
>* * *
>
>If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't
>answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me
>directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more
>popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you
>instantly).
>
>As usual, thanks for your patience. 
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
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[Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals

2020-09-10 Thread Wayne Burdick
I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the 
bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, 
but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.

There are three major documents in the works:

1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual

This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. 
You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner 
of the LCD.

For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late 
next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going 
through 60 pages of text, trying every link. 

In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks 
attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that 
takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation 
performed.

2. K4 Owner's Manual 

Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will 
be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf 
file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using 
a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations.

The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so 
I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed.

3. K4 Programmer's Reference

An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few 
developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the 
K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to 
expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage 
of all of the new features.

* * *

If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer 
above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I 
have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't 
guarantee I'll get back to you instantly).

As usual, thanks for your patience. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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