Re: [Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-04 Thread Michael Babineau
Ken : 

I am still in the process of building my K2 but I have used the CUP36 13.5V / 
2.4 A Switching supply
sold by Morse Express on both my K1 and KX1 and it works very well with no 
generated noise.
Very convenient when operating from hotel rooms etc. 

http://www.mtechnologies.com/cup/

Michael VE3WMB / VA2NB 
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[Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-03 Thread Kenneth Moorman
I would like to hear from anyone who has attempted to use one of the small
external PC AC adapter power supplies with a K2.  They are, of course,
switchers, so I am not very hopeful.  I have found a couple of possible
candidates, one a Meanwell P40A-4PSJ rated at 13.8 volts at 2.66 amps and
the other an APS AD-740U-1138, rated at 13.8 volts at 2.8 amps.  They seem
to have somewhat comparable specs as to regulation, ripple, and protection.
I suspect they would be pretty bad on RFI, so even though they can be had
cheaply, they may not be worth the grief.  My fallback position would likely
be the little unit from Gamma Research, HPS-1a, but that will be twice as
heavy and probably ten times more expensivebut from what I've read about
it, it is not very noisy electrically.  I would really appreciate any
thoughts, especially those with first hand experience.  This would only be
for portable operation, not normal use.  Thanks.

73,

Ken Moorman, NU4I 

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Re: [Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-03 Thread John Ragle
  Ken...

 The general subject of RFI/switching power supplies has been 
bruited about on this list server several times. I personally have had 
excellent experience with the several that I use. These include a 20 
amp, 13.8 V supply from pyramid and two 25 amp, 13.8 volt supplies from 
Radio Shack. These supplies sit within inches of my K3/100 and my ICOM 
910H and cause no interference that I can detect.

 On the other hand, I have a circline fluorescent lamp with a 
magnifier that I transplanted from my workbench to my operating site, 
about which I made the following discovery. The lamp itself runs off a 
power supply at the base of the tensor arms. Turning the lamp on and 
off produces no change in interference, but unplugging the lamp from the 
wall outlet reduces hash noise on 20 meters by about 3 S units !!!. The 
wall-wart-like power supply in the base of this lamp is very noisy, and 
the lamp has accordingly been banished to a less sensitive site.

 My summary comment would be that power supplies run the gamut wrt 
RFI problems, and that one might well have to proceed by 
trial-and-error. I have always rejected use of the PC-type power supply 
because they usually come with a spaghetti of different wires intended 
for different functions within the computer. The small Radio Shack 25 
amp supplies are about the same volume as a typical PC supply, and a 
great deal more congenial (cosmetically) than the latter.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 10/3/2010 1:47 PM, Kenneth Moorman wrote:
 I would like to hear from anyone who has attempted to use one of the small
 external PC AC adapter power supplies with a K2.  They are, of course,
 switchers, so I am not very hopeful.

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[Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-03 Thread Kenneth Moorman
Thanks John,

I should have stated that this would be the K2/10.  These little switchers
are the sort that powered laptops.  They are sealed units with single output
voltages, not the boxes that go into the desktop machines with multiple
output voltages.  I should have been clearer about this.

Ken, NU4I

   
 My summary comment would be that power supplies run the gamut wrt RFI
problems, and that one might well have to proceed by trial-and-error. I have
always rejected use of the PC-type power supply because they usually come
with a spaghetti of different wires intended for different functions within
the computer. The small Radio Shack 25 amp supplies are about the same
volume as a typical PC supply, and a great deal more congenial
(cosmetically) than the latter.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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Re: [Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
I have used the MFJ-4103 (13.8 v, 2.89 amps) with my K2 and haven't noticed any 
switching noise issues.

Bob, N7XY

On Oct 3, 2010, at 10:47 AM, Kenneth Moorman wrote:

 I would like to hear from anyone who has attempted to use one of the small
 external PC AC adapter power supplies with a K2.  They are, of course,
 switchers, so I am not very hopeful.  I have found a couple of possible
 candidates, one a Meanwell P40A-4PSJ rated at 13.8 volts at 2.66 amps and
 the other an APS AD-740U-1138, rated at 13.8 volts at 2.8 amps.  They seem
 to have somewhat comparable specs as to regulation, ripple, and protection.
 I suspect they would be pretty bad on RFI, so even though they can be had
 cheaply, they may not be worth the grief.  My fallback position would likely
 be the little unit from Gamma Research, HPS-1a, but that will be twice as
 heavy and probably ten times more expensivebut from what I've read about
 it, it is not very noisy electrically.  I would really appreciate any
 thoughts, especially those with first hand experience.  This would only be
 for portable operation, not normal use.  Thanks.

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[Elecraft] Use of PC power supplies with K2

2010-10-03 Thread W2bpi1
I have used the MFJ-4103 on my K1, K2, and mni other qrp rigs with no  
problems.  George/W2BPI
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