Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks for the info!
I'll look for Terry at Dayton next week.
This looks like exactly what I'm looking to do.
Dave
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:10 PM Dana Shtun  wrote:

> Dave
> I came across this from Terry K8ZN o
> f Directiv
> e Systems , and the Grid Pirates.
> This was the “missing link” for VHF UHF!
> The elecraft external band switch is ALSO very capable and will work on HF
> or VHF/UHF, but it requires more hardware, which you can
> buy online, it just gets messy…
>
> With a bit of modification Terry’s board talks to the K3 via the RS232
> port - the original design was computer driven via RS232.
> This was featured in the World Above in QST in 2008 (attached) and here is
> the link
> to the Grid Pirates web… http://www.k8gp.net/station-equipment/moasu or e
> mail Terry. He may have boards and parts left.It is capable of switching
> 12 bands…but the K3 can only handle 10 if memory serves.
>
> I drive 2x24 V rotary switches from the board, one switches the 28 MHz IF
> from the K3 for 222 and 432, and the other uses the 144 Mhz IF for my
> microwave transverters, plus 144 and 50
> as well there are on board relays that move a Demi 4 port sequencer from
> band to band via a set of 3 phono plugs per band, on the back.
> Ive also modified it to provide 12 and 24 V switched output for relays and
> also integrated a G4FRE / WW2R band decoder board into it just to give me
> a full frequency display… ie 2304.1000 rather than 304.1000 on the K3.
>
> It all works great, I can jump from 50 through 2304 just by switching
> bands on the K3.
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
>
>
> On May 8, 2017, at 14:49, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:
>
> Dana, I would be interested in learning more about your transverter
> switching arrangement. Right now I have the K3 plus the Elecraft
> transverters for 144, 222, and 432, using split IF and the Elecraft Aux
> bus. Each transverter drives a power amp. That works fantastic for
> contesting, but I want to add a couple bands. That means adding
> non-Elecraft transverters, and some kind of switching setup.
> 73 de W0ZF
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:19 PM Dana Shtun  wrote:
>
>
>
> If you look at the schematic for the internal transverter there appear  to
> be available pins for “stacking” tranverters and switching the IF around…
> similar to what exists with the external transverters.
>
> Which means if there were transverters you could add them internally…222,
> 432, 902, 1296…
> The biggest feature would be band specific sequencing and lines to
> sequence amps, and preamps...
>
> Sure would make my life easier… but I’m using the "Mother of All Switch
> Units" to control all my transverters and sequencing.
> This talks directly to the K3. Makes VHF contesting so easy but its rack
> mounted, would look better in a Elecraft style cabinet! jo
>
> If I took out the 100 w module there would be room to fill the box with
> transverters….but a K3SVU would be nice eh?
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
> FN03
>
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I suspect he meant Power Amplifier (PA) not PS. Such is the danger of acronyms. 
They can start wars! 

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nr4c
Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2017 6:53 PM
To: Clay Autery
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

What PS?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 6, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> wrote:
> 
> Nice idea  Once the 15dB limit is removed, you can use the 10 watt 
> to drive the KPA1500 or (gain limit modded) any amp you choose...
> 
> If you found a dead 100W K3 PS, you could use the bracketing, back 
> panel, et al as needed...  Lot of room if you dump the PS...
> 
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> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 5/5/2017 7:23 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> At one point I considered taking a K3/10 and installing Transverters where 
>> the PA deck would go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com>
>> To: Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com>; Elecraft 
>> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>> 
>> Phil,
>> 
>> Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into 
>> VHF, UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of 
>> engineers, also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may 
>> eventually take hold.  I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF 
>> based on the Elecraft design features to include features such as full 
>> duplex, etc.  I don't know what the market for such equipment might be, but 
>> they might wish to respond to our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment 
>> and they could allow space for modules to be added which would include even 
>> higher freq stuff for those who wanted it. 
>> 
>> 72 & 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>> Phil Hystad
>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
>> To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>> 
>> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
>> but thought to ask this question instead.
>> 
>> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
>> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
>> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of 
>> possibly a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 
>> 1240-1300 MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that 
>> is necessary (IMO).
>> 
>> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in 
>> common as

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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Clay Autery]

Sorry...  brain slipped a tooth or two

Not PS...  K3 100 W amp  a dead KPA3A...  though I realize finding
one may well be an exercise in futility...

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On 5/6/2017 8:52 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> What PS?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On May 6, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:
>>
>> Nice idea  Once the 15dB limit is removed, you can use the 10 watt
>> to drive the KPA1500 or (gain limit modded) any amp you choose...
>>
>> If you found a dead 100W K3 PS, you could use the bracketing, back
>> panel, et al as needed...  Lot of room if you dump the PS...
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Nr4c]

What PS?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On May 6, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Clay Autery <caut...@montac.com> wrote:
> 
> Nice idea  Once the 15dB limit is removed, you can use the 10 watt
> to drive the KPA1500 or (gain limit modded) any amp you choose...
> 
> If you found a dead 100W K3 PS, you could use the bracketing, back
> panel, et al as needed...  Lot of room if you dump the PS...
> 
> __
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
> 
>> On 5/5/2017 7:23 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> At one point I considered taking a K3/10 and installing Transverters where 
>> the PA deck would go.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com>
>> To: Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com>; Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>> 
>> Phil,
>> 
>> Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into 
>> VHF, UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of 
>> engineers, also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may 
>> eventually take hold.  I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF 
>> based on the Elecraft design features to include features such as full 
>> duplex, etc.  I don't know what the market for such equipment might be, but 
>> they might wish to respond to our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment 
>> and they could allow space for modules to be added which would include even 
>> higher freq stuff for those who wanted it. 
>> 
>> 72 & 73,
>> Bill
>> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
>> Hystad
>> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
>> To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>> 
>> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
>> but thought to ask this question instead.
>> 
>> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
>> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
>> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of 
>> possibly a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 
>> 1240-1300 MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that 
>> is necessary (IMO).
>> 
>> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as

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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Clay Autery]

Nice idea  Once the 15dB limit is removed, you can use the 10 watt
to drive the KPA1500 or (gain limit modded) any amp you choose...

If you found a dead 100W K3 PS, you could use the bracketing, back
panel, et al as needed...  Lot of room if you dump the PS...

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On 5/5/2017 7:23 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> At one point I considered taking a K3/10 and installing Transverters where 
> the PA deck would go.
>
>
>
>   From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com>
>  To: Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com>; Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
>  Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:17 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>
> Phil,
>
> Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into 
> VHF, UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of 
> engineers, also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may eventually 
> take hold.  I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF based on the 
> Elecraft design features to include features such as full duplex, etc.  I 
> don't know what the market for such equipment might be, but they might wish 
> to respond to our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment and they could 
> allow space for modules to be added which would include even higher freq 
> stuff for those who wanted it. 
>
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
> Hystad
> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
> To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
>
> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
> but thought to ask this question instead.
>
> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly 
> a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
> MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is 
> necessary (IMO).
>
> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
> far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
> hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
> for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[kevino z]

I asked Eric and David once about the idea of a sat radio. I believe their 
response was that Elecraft was great at HF, and HF was where they were 
concentrating on. 

That being said, not sure why, out of the blue, after 10 years, they decided to 
resurrect the 1500 W amp project and see it to fruition.

I know one thing, anything Elecraft does is done with careful thought. If the 
day comes when elecraft makes a satellite all-mode, full-duplex rig, it will be 
a home run. Linear, digital, and FM satellites with an Elecraft in my hands... 
One can dream...

-Kevin (KK4YEL) 


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> On May 5, 2017, at 19:17, Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com> wrote:
> 
> Phil,
> 
> Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into 
> VHF, UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of 
> engineers, also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may eventually 
> take hold.  I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF based on the 
> Elecraft design features to include features such as full duplex, etc.  I 
> don't know what the market for such equipment might be, but they might wish 
> to respond to our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment and they could 
> allow space for modules to be added which would include even higher freq 
> stuff for those who wanted it. 
> 
> 72 & 73,
> Bill
> K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
> Hystad
> Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
> To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
> 
> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
> but thought to ask this question instead.
> 
> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly 
> a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
> MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is 
> necessary (IMO).
> 
> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
> far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
> hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
> for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Andy McMullin]

I am one who would like to register interest too!

Regards
Andy, G8TQH 

> On 5 May 2017, at 18:50, Paul Stoetzer  wrote:
> 
> I would be interested and I know several others who would be as well!
> 
> 73,
> 
> Paul, N8HM
> 
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
>> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
>> but thought to ask this question instead.
>> 
>> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
>> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
>> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of 
>> possibly a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 
>> 1240-1300 MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that 
>> is necessary (IMO).
>> 
>> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common 
>> as far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I 
>> am hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would 
>> make for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

At one point I considered taking a K3/10 and installing Transverters where the 
PA deck would go.



  From: Bill Johnson <k9...@live.com>
 To: Phil Hystad <phys...@mac.com>; Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
 Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List
   
Phil,

Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into VHF, 
UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of engineers, 
also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may eventually take hold.  
I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF based on the Elecraft 
design features to include features such as full duplex, etc.  I don't know 
what the market for such equipment might be, but they might wish to respond to 
our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment and they could allow space for 
modules to be added which would include even higher freq stuff for those who 
wanted it. 

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
Hystad
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S but 
thought to ask this question instead.

Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from Wayne 
& Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF with 
satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly a 
three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is necessary 
(IMO).

There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).

73, phil, K7PEH
   
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Bill Johnson]

Phil,

Wayne and Eric are smart dudes, for sure.  I don't know that they are into VHF, 
UHF to the degree needed to do what you ask.  They do have a team of engineers, 
also very bright and HAM interested, so the request may eventually take hold.  
I would love a K2 or K3 style platform for VHF, UHF based on the Elecraft 
design features to include features such as full duplex, etc.  I don't know 
what the market for such equipment might be, but they might wish to respond to 
our interest?!  I would enjoy such equipment and they could allow space for 
modules to be added which would include even higher freq stuff for those who 
wanted it. 

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ, FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil 
Hystad
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 12:36 PM
To: Elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S but 
thought to ask this question instead.

Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from Wayne 
& Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF with 
satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly a 
three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is necessary 
(IMO).

There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Paul Stoetzer]

I would be interested and I know several others who would be as well!

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Phil Hystad  wrote:
> I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S 
> but thought to ask this question instead.
>
> Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from 
> Wayne & Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF 
> with satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly 
> a three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
> MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is 
> necessary (IMO).
>
> There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
> far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
> hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
> for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Phil Hystad]

I was planning to ask a question about the 2-meter option board for K3/K3S but 
thought to ask this question instead.

Has there ever been interest (by others of this forum) or discussion from Wayne 
& Eric about a new radio, one specifically dedicated to VHF and UHF with 
satellite comms (Doppler) and other features.  I am thinking of possibly a 
three band radio but at least two (2 meter, 70 cm) and optionally 1240-1300 
MHz.  All mode of course!  10 to 15 watts output would be all that is necessary 
(IMO).

There are other radios on the market but they all have one thing in common as 
far as I know — they are HF+VHF/UHF such as the Icom 9100 for example.  I am 
hoping that removing the HF support and the larger amplifier needs would make 
for a cheaper radio (even from Elecraft).

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF

[WILLIS COOKE]

How big is the check you are willing to send?  I have no inside track on 
pricing, but as an engineer, and estimating the size of the market, and what 
you are asking I don't think that 10 grand would be unreasonable.  Would you 
still want to jump in line at that price, maybe higher?  Or are you looking to 
get one at a bargain price?
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke, TDXS DX Chairman
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2014 7:22 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF
 

I'd love to have a K3 size VHF/UHF radio covering 2 Meters through 1296,  
all mode.  When do I send my check?

73, Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF

[Jim Lowman]

At least for 1296, that's not possible at the moment.
DEM is redesigning their transverters for this band.
No idea when it will be available.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 2/3/2014 7:47 PM, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:

to down east microwave
Bob K3DJC


On Mon, 3 Feb 2014 20:22:40 -0500 (EST) dbellw...@aol.com writes:

I'd love to have a K3 size VHF/UHF radio covering 2 Meters through
1296,
all mode.  When do I send my check?
  
73, Dave




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[Elecraft] VHF/UHF

[DBellW6AQ]

I'd love to have a K3 size VHF/UHF radio covering 2 Meters through 1296,  
all mode.  When do I send my check?
 
73, Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF

[riese-k3djc]

to down east microwave
Bob K3DJC


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 I'd love to have a K3 size VHF/UHF radio covering 2 Meters through 
 1296,  
 all mode.  When do I send my check?
  
 73, Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF

[george fritkin]

They exist 

George, W6GF



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I'd love to have a K3 size VHF/UHF radio covering 2 Meters through 1296,  
all mode.  When do I send my check?
 
73, Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF coverage

[Jim Lowman]

What the heck, since everyone is making wishes.  Has there been any
consideration of an all-mode 222-MHz option?  That would really make
Elecraft stand out in the field even more.

Yes, I know that they offer an external transverter.  I might consider that
if there is a low-level output to drive it with the KX3.  I have a K2 
but not
the 60m/transverter interface.

Oddly, from my research, there is precious little 222 MHz activity in the
greater Los Angeles/Orange County area except during contests, and quite
a bit of that is FM simplex.  Thus, it's an expensive option, 
considering the
need for an antenna as well.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 12/30/2011 8:59 PM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
 Since Wayne indicates they're open to the possibility of 70cm,
 eventually, and some subsequent comments consider a couple approaches:

 Since there is room for both 20w HF tuner and 2m module, perhaps the
 70cm module could occupy the space for the tuner to provide 2m/70cm, or

 Perhaps a combo 2m/70cm dual-band transverter as single package, or

 A dual-band transverter as a separate piggy-back package that would
 clamp-on to the back of the KX3, thus allowing the 20w HF tuner in
 addition.  That would provide more space to obtain full 10w output for both.

 I do get the objective to have everything inside the KX3, but there
 are simply limitations to what will fit.

 Finally, a comment about the FT-817.  I was amazed to get HF-to-light
 in the FT-847 and then two years later they shrink it into a 5w
 version, wow!  It was a good radio, for its time, but did not
 encompass DSP in the initial unit.  Now the age of SDR is finally
 coming into full swing!  I am amazed to find that I will own three
 SDR once the KX3 arrives:  2007 SDR-IQ, 2009-K3, 2012-KX3.  Simply amazing!


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Re: [Elecraft] VHF/UHF coverage

[Edward R. Cole]

Jim,

Adding VHF+ frequencies to a HF/6m radio has nearly always been some 
kind of transverter.  Afterall most modern receivers (transceivers) 
are based on the superhetrodyne design, which mixes down to a low 
enough IF for proper filtering/detection of the signal.  A 
transceiver is just a single stage of mixing up/down (usually).

Then all of a sudden we are making direct-conversions radios, 
again, only they also do conversion to digital and we call them SDR's 
(because filtering, noise reduction, and demodulation is done better 
in the digital world).  I would say the KX3 IS that all the way to 
54-MHz? (since I have to guess - not seeing a block diagram).  A the 
present state of the art operating higher in frequency requires 
conversion (mixing) down the base SDR frequency (aka 50-54).  It 
won't be long until direct conversion SDR will operate to 1296 (does 
anyone remember 8-MHz cpu clocks?).

Whether the conversion (transverter) is done inside one case or an 
add-on it still is a transverter.

So all it really takes is the willingness to make one for whatever 
band, be it 144, 222, 432, or ...???

In fact it is really a business decision.  Is there a market?  Is 
there competition?  What is the return on investment (ROI)?
The 220 (and now 222-MHz) band has always been a orphan band 
because it is not a world-wide amateur radio allocation.  That means 
the market is smaller (ergo ROI is smaller).

It sort of like that decision we as hams make whether to spend money 
on equipment for a band with little activity!  What it the ROI for 
buying such?  How much fun per buck?

Well, I will say if we based all of our ham decisions totally on ROI, 
we would not have opened up the upper highs above 200m a century 
ago.  Someone has to be first, and hope that others will be 
interested in following.

I am just finishing my 222-28 transverter which will connect to the 
two 11-element 220 yagi's I put up in Nov. 2008.  This to talk to 
possibly a half-dozen stations 70-miles away (closest 222 
activity).  That amounts to about $60 per initial QSO (just on the 
transverter cost).  The total ham pop in Alaska is 3800 and over half 
only do HF.  Probably there are several times that in LA, alone!

I would guess Elecraft is forward looking enough that you may 
(eventually) get your wish for adding 222 to the KX3.  Look how quick 
they responded to desire for 144.

(BTW don't even ask me what my ROI is for the $8,000 dish I put up 
for 1296-eme; better one is the one contact on 10-GHz in AK).  In 
fact eme is the justification for my spending very much on such 
esoteric bands; I have the whole world to work.

PS:  My understanding is that the power level of the KX3 is 
adjustable down quite low making transverter interface possible.  It 
still might require adding attenuation on transmit.


---
What the heck, since everyone is making wishes.  Has there been any
consideration of an all-mode 222-MHz option?  That would really make
Elecraft stand out in the field even more.

Yes, I know that they offer an external transverter.  I might consider that
if there is a low-level output to drive it with the KX3.  I have a K2
but not
the 60m/transverter interface.

Oddly, from my research, there is precious little 222 MHz activity in the
greater Los Angeles/Orange County area except during contests, and quite
a bit of that is FM simplex.  Thus, it's an expensive option,
considering the
need for an antenna as well.

73 de Jim - AD6CW



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Re: [Elecraft] VHF UHF KX3

[Helmut Berka]

Hi,

Eric mentioned at Ham Radio in Germany a VHF-Transverter coming very 
soon .

It will be installed instead of the ATU (because you can use the T1 ATU 
from Elecraft externally for HF).



vy 73 de



Helmut - DL2MAJ 
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On 11.07.2011 00:40, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Maybe.  Wayne has mentioned 144 MHz, but I don't recall anything about
 the possibility of 432 MHz.
 The possibility of an internal transverter has been discussed, but it
 may have to displace some other internal option, like the internal tuner.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 7/10/2011 6:35 PM, RFC558 wrote:
 Will there be a VHF/UHF all mode option for the KX3?

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[Elecraft] VHF UHF KX3

[RFC558]

Will there be a VHF/UHF all mode option for the KX3?
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[Elecraft] VHF UHF KX3

[Bill Lee]

Will there be a VHF/UHF all mode option for the KX3?

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Re: [Elecraft] VHF UHF KX3

[Don Wilhelm]

  Maybe.  Wayne has mentioned 144 MHz, but I don't recall anything about 
the possibility of 432 MHz.
The possibility of an internal transverter has been discussed, but it 
may have to displace some other internal option, like the internal tuner.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/10/2011 6:35 PM, RFC558 wrote:
 Will there be a VHF/UHF all mode option for the KX3?

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