Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Hjalmar Duklæt]

I built my K1 when it was still possible to get the 4-band module which for me, 
covers 40, 30, 20 & 15. As I would like to have 80m also to work my Norwegian 
hams, I built a 2-band board with 80 & 20. 20m is a band that's normally always 
open some part of the day and a band you can use for dx, even qrp. I would 
suggest 20m as one of the bands and 80, 40 or 30 for the other one. 40m is a 
very crowdy band which makes it difficult for qrp.

73 de Hal/LA4XX

On 17-01-25 21:10, Mike Morrow   wrote:
> 
> 
> > What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
> > My first thoughts are 40 and 15,
> 
> There are only six bands that Elecraft supports with KFL1-2 band parts: 80m, 
> 40m, 30m, 20m, 17m, 15m. Some have customized their own boards for other 
> bands, notably 160m and 10m.
> 
> When I built a K1 in 2000, only two-band filter boardz were available. I 
> built two filter boards, one for 40m/20m, and one for 30m/15m. I used those 
> until the KFL1-4 four-band board for all four of those bands was available. I 
> converted the 40m/20m KFL1-2 to 80m/17m.
> 
> Without any doubt or question, if I were limited to one two-band board, 
> 40m/20m would easily be my choice even as we head further into a long 
> (perhaps very long) period of minimal solar activity.
> 
> Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Hm  80 & 40 ..





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From: Jack Brindle <jackbrin...@me.com> 
Date: 2017-01-25  10:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Harry Yingst <hlyin...@yahoo.com> 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? 

At this point in the solar cycle, we are already seeing the MUF drop below both 
40 and 80 meters at night. Of course that is in the winter time,
and things should get a bit better as we get closer to summer. Still, for the 
near future the higher bands won’t be very effective. During the
(rather lengthy) low parts of the last cycle the MUF dropped below 80 meters 
for long periods of time at night, and even 20m wasn’t very
effective during the day.

I would consider some combination that includes 80 meters if you plan on 
operating at night. It is the higher band that would give me trouble
deciding, with 40, 30 and even 20m providing interesting possibilities. I kind 
of like K9YC’s suggestion of 30 meters where CW shines so well.

In any case, make a decision and enjoy it. Operating CW on the bands is always 
a lot of fun.

- Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
> <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> Thanks all who responded
> It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on
> 
> 40 and 20 look to be in the lead
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Thank you
I've built a K2 in the past so I figured a K1 would be a fun rig to build (for 
me much of the fun is in building).
 40 is typically good here but I also see less on 30. The bright side is that I 
can always buy another filter board.



 Original message 
From: HankP <pfizenma...@q.com> 
Date: 2017-01-25  10:31 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Harry Yingst <hlyin...@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? 

p { margin: 0; }Thanks all who responded
It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on

40 and 20 look to be in the lead



  Hi Harry - I had lost your original message - and I had a draft I was going 
to send to you - but couldnot find your original message . So here is a paste 
of  it  . FWIW- and I had concluded exactly your first line . 
The guy who just was talking about 80 and MUF has some thoughts 
dunno - here  in Phoenix - ther are quite a few W6 guys to chew the fat with 
inthe winter - but summers are  just no fun.. 

Guess I live in a 30 meter hole - Most times I  find nothing 
on 30 other than special event or DXpedition stations 
and the W0ERE 2 watt beacon . Once in a while a random rag chew .

Yes almost always some digital but we are talking CW I think . 

Then big pileups on a DX station and it all goes away when the DX quits .

Contrast that to 40 Cw and virtually always something to work. 

So I would suggest if you have a receiver - listen to 30 and 40 and 20 
at the times you will mostly operate and see whats best in your area. 

RE the 200 watts   On the P3 I have watched  guys turn
on their amps  - once I sent "turn off ur amp" and got a HI HI back .

Just saying ---

73 Hank K7HP  

   
   

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Jack Brindle]

At this point in the solar cycle, we are already seeing the MUF drop below both 
40 and 80 meters at night. Of course that is in the winter time,
and things should get a bit better as we get closer to summer. Still, for the 
near future the higher bands won’t be very effective. During the
(rather lengthy) low parts of the last cycle the MUF dropped below 80 meters 
for long periods of time at night, and even 20m wasn’t very
effective during the day.

I would consider some combination that includes 80 meters if you plan on 
operating at night. It is the higher band that would give me trouble
deciding, with 40, 30 and even 20m providing interesting possibilities. I kind 
of like K9YC’s suggestion of 30 meters where CW shines so well.

In any case, make a decision and enjoy it. Operating CW on the bands is always 
a lot of fun.

- Jack, W6FB


> On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all who responded
> It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on
> 
> 40 and 20 look to be in the lead
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Cameron Francey]

For me I have a K1 with bands 20 and 40.  Both work well QRP at home on the 
main antennas and QRP portable with a simple wire antenna (T2 and random wire/ 
short counterpoise)

I really like 30m but there's more people on 40m so more chance of getting a 
reply there over 30.  I'd be torn between 30 and 40 if I was to chose again.
If I could only have one lower cost radio a K1 with 30/40 would be my choice.

Cameron - AF7DK



From: Elecraft <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Bill Johnson 
<k9...@live.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:16 PM
To: 'Eric J'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

I agree with 40 and 30.  Much better luck having done QRP portable for
years.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric J
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:46 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our
current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40
for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had
better luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a
contact on 15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When
it's open, it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw.

20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind
of sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly
always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want.

Eric

KE6US

On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would
pick.

Thank you.

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

Thanks all who responded
It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on

40 and 20 look to be in the lead



  
   
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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Bill Johnson]

I agree with 40 and 30.  Much better luck having done QRP portable for
years.  

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Eric J
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:46 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our
current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40
for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had
better luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a
contact on 15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When
it's open, it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw.

20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind
of sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly
always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want.

Eric

KE6US

On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would
pick.

Thank you.

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Curt]

I have a K1 built sometime ago with filter boards for all of the bands. The 
4-band is 15,20,30,40  A 2-band for 80,17; another for 12,10.  75% of the time 
mine is used on 20M, the balance split between 30 and 40.

IMHO one of the bands should be 20M.  As the sun declines toward minimum, 
anything shorter isn't likely to be too useful.  My pick for the second band 
would be 30M, because of the DX opportunities,

GL 72, Curt KB5JO 

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Mike Morrow]

> What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
> My first thoughts are 40 and 15,

There are only six bands that Elecraft supports with KFL1-2 band parts:  80m, 
40m, 30m, 20m, 17m, 15m.  Some have customized their own boards for other 
bands, notably 160m and 10m.

When I built a K1 in 2000, only two-band filter boardz were available.  I built 
two filter boards, one for 40m/20m, and one for 30m/15m.  I used those until 
the KFL1-4 four-band board for all four of those bands was available.  I 
converted the 40m/20m KFL1-2 to 80m/17m.

Without any doubt or question, if I were limited to one two-band board, 40m/20m 
would easily be my choice even as we head further into a long (perhaps very 
long) period of minimal solar activity.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Jim Brown]

On Wed,1/25/2017 10:46 AM, Eric J wrote:

NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always scare up a contact below 
14.025 if I want.


I do a lot of QRP, especially in DX contests. I wouldn't dream of 
hanging out on "a QRP frequency," and I never sign /QRP. If I get into a 
chat, I will say that I'm running 5W.


I'll reinforce the recommendation of 30M as a great band. The 200W power 
limit and no voice modes is a major advantage for those with limited 
stations or running QRP, antennas are of more reasonable size, and 
propagation is often quite good.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Eric J]

I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our 
current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40 
for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had better 
luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a contact on 
15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When it's open, 
it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw.

20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind of 
sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always 
scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want.

Eric

KE6US

On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick.

Thank you.

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Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Charlie T, K3ICH]

This is an impossible question to answer because there are SO many variables
that are based strictly on personal preferences.
Many more on physical parameters (location, antenna availability, etc.)  and
even some on time (of day or, as in solar cycle ). 

As a start, make a list of all the possibilities or variables you can think
of and you'll see that no one can make that decision for you.

Some things you'll just have to decide for yourself.

73, Charlie k3ICH

 

> What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
> My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would
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[Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?

[Harry Yingst via Elecraft]

What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick.

Thank you.

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