Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Nr4c 
My question want meant for a single person, but to all. I was asking how to 
connect it all together. I’m hoping for an iOS app. 
And I have used a Z”Pig thingy” to connect to my KX3. Worked rather well. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Nov 8, 2019, at 10:40 AM, Barry Baines  wrote:
> 
> Bill:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
>> 
>> How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
>> thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad. 
> 
> 
> Is your question direct at me?  in your reply,   I’m the ’to’ addressee and 
> Howard is the ‘info’ addressee so I’m presuming that your query is meant for 
> me. 
> 
> As I indicated, there isn’t a way to connect the iPad directly to an Elecraft 
> device.  The only examples I provided are 1) adding a web interface to the 
> KAT500 in order to control it through the RR-1216H and 2) using an iPad App 
> that interacts with a PC.  Of course, there are other ways to control a PC 
> remotely with an iPAD such as by using TeamViewer or VNCViewer. 
> 
> I can’t speak for Howard, but his query is presumably based upon a desired 
> result without necessarily coming up with a solution on how it would be done. 
>  I’d be thrilled if Remote Rig offered more options for the RR-1216H to 
> control the KAT500 or even the K3.  A web interface attached to the device in 
> question through RS-232 gets around a number of issues, including 
> serial-to-ethernet conversion, avoiding the need to run Windows PC programs 
> (Elecraft utilities of various flavors), and opens the door for using 
> smartphones, tablets, MacOS computers, etc. to access Elecraft devices. Given 
> that I run my HF station remotely for the vast amount of time that I use it, 
> making it easier to access it without having to run Windows either in the 
> shack or where I’m located significantly enhances and simplifies the 
> management of my remote system.  The K3/IO-mini certainly enhances the remote 
> capability of controlling a K3, but it is only one part of the station 
> architecture that an operator has to manage for full remote functionality.
> 
> I’m presuming that when the K4 is released that it will be the start of a 
> pathway for Elecraft to provide simplified remote access as well.  That said, 
> there are presumably scads of existing Elecraft devices in service that their 
> owners would benefit from new product offerings that provide a web interface. 
>  
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Barry, WD4ASW
> Keller, TX
> 
> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
 On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Howard:
>>> 
>>> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  
>>> If you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at 
>>> a program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in 
>>> turn accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a 
>>> year and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
>>> 
>>> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
>>> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
>>> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
>>> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
>>> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
>>> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H 
>>> can be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, 
>>> Android, etc.
>>> 
>>> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
>>> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
>>> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ 
>>> may develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and 
>>> associated equipment.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
>>> Keller, TX
>>> 
 On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
 
 Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
 the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Grant Youngman 
They’ve already demonstrated wifi K4 control from a pad computer — might have 
been a WIndows thingy, but I’m pretty sure Elecraft indicated there would be an 
iOS version.  Everything is just “a few lines of code”, as they say ..  :-) :-)

But a question I have is whether at some point the K4 will have an integrated 
wireless adapter .. so I can connect it to my existing network (without a cable 
connection to my router which isn’t in the radio room), and run it from my Mac 
in the living room.  That would be ideal ...

Grant NQ5T

> On Nov 8, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:
> 
> With a linux computer built into the K4, the door is open for wifi (or 
> bluetooth) access to an iOS device (or a standard computer).  Unless Elecraft 
> designed their own motherboard, it's likely already available on the board 
> they're using and if they did roll their own, it may be in the chip set 
> chosen for the wired access.  Wayne and team aren't ignorant in this want and 
> have done a good job of looking forward when designing.
> 
> I expect a developer to step up at some point to make this 'simple' BUT it 
> may only allow K4 access, not logbook, rotator, tuner, amplifier (etc) 
> control.  That would mean more non-wired access.
> 
> The the K3 line, I use TeamViewer to access the computer controlling the 
> station from any platform I have at hand (and Skype for audio, if CW or 
> phone).  This includes my iOS devices. Sometimes the most direct path is the 
> simplest.
> 
> 73,
> Rick nk7i
> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Rick Bates, NK7I 
With a linux computer built into the K4, the door is open for wifi (or 
bluetooth) access to an iOS device (or a standard computer).  Unless 
Elecraft designed their own motherboard, it's likely already available 
on the board they're using and if they did roll their own, it may be in 
the chip set chosen for the wired access.  Wayne and team aren't 
ignorant in this want and have done a good job of looking forward when 
designing.


I expect a developer to step up at some point to make this 'simple' BUT 
it may only allow K4 access, not logbook, rotator, tuner, amplifier 
(etc) control.  That would mean more non-wired access.


The the K3 line, I use TeamViewer to access the computer controlling the 
station from any platform I have at hand (and Skype for audio, if CW or 
phone).  This includes my iOS devices. Sometimes the most direct path is 
the simplest.


73,
Rick nk7i


On 11/8/2019 1:17 AM, Nr4c wrote:

How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF 
Bill, USB is possible, if you buy the Apple adapters - you need the lighting to 
the old style (30 pin) connector and then the SD card reader, which comes with 
a USB adapter, which both have 30 pin connectors.

It is (or was) then possible to run some apps to control rigs, but I don’t know 
if a Elecraft compatible protocol is available.

73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)

> On 8 Nov 2019, at 09:17, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
> thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft 
>> mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Howard:
>> 
>> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
>> you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
>> program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
>> accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year 
>> and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
>> 
>> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
>> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
>> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
>> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
>> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
>> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can 
>> be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, 
>> etc.
>> 
>> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
>> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
>> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may 
>> develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated 
>> equipment.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
>> Keller, TX
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
>>> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Barry Baines via Elecraft 
Bill:



> On Nov 8, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
> thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad. 


Is your question direct at me?  in your reply,   I’m the ’to’ addressee and 
Howard is the ‘info’ addressee so I’m presuming that your query is meant for 
me. 

As I indicated, there isn’t a way to connect the iPad directly to an Elecraft 
device.  The only examples I provided are 1) adding a web interface to the 
KAT500 in order to control it through the RR-1216H and 2) using an iPad App 
that interacts with a PC.  Of course, there are other ways to control a PC 
remotely with an iPAD such as by using TeamViewer or VNCViewer. 

I can’t speak for Howard, but his query is presumably based upon a desired 
result without necessarily coming up with a solution on how it would be done.  
I’d be thrilled if Remote Rig offered more options for the RR-1216H to control 
the KAT500 or even the K3.  A web interface attached to the device in question 
through RS-232 gets around a number of issues, including serial-to-ethernet 
conversion, avoiding the need to run Windows PC programs (Elecraft utilities of 
various flavors), and opens the door for using smartphones, tablets, MacOS 
computers, etc. to access Elecraft devices. Given that I run my HF station 
remotely for the vast amount of time that I use it, making it easier to access 
it without having to run Windows either in the shack or where I’m located 
significantly enhances and simplifies the management of my remote system.  The 
K3/IO-mini certainly enhances the remote capability of controlling a K3, but it 
is only one part of the station architecture that an operator has to manage for 
full remote functionality.

I’m presuming that when the K4 is released that it will be the start of a 
pathway for Elecraft to provide simplified remote access as well.  That said, 
there are presumably scads of existing Elecraft devices in service that their 
owners would benefit from new product offerings that provide a web interface.  


73,

Barry, WD4ASW
Keller, TX


> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Howard:
>> 
>> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
>> you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
>> program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
>> accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year 
>> and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
>> 
>> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
>> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
>> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
>> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
>> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
>> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can 
>> be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, 
>> etc.
>> 
>> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
>> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
>> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may 
>> develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated 
>> equipment.
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
>> Keller, TX
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
>>> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Tox 
For K4, Eric was hoping an iOS dev would come forth to do a client for
them, as he doesn't have time to do it. The "iPad" in the k4 remote
demos is sadly actually a Surface.

Scott
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On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:06 PM Barry Baines via Elecraft
 wrote:
>
> Howard:
>
> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
> you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
> program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
> accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year 
> and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
>
> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can 
> be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, 
> etc.
>
> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may 
> develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated 
> equipment.
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
> Keller, TX
>
> > On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
> >
> > Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
> > the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-08 Thread Nr4c 
How do you plan to connect the iPad to the radio?  The K3 typically connects 
thru a RS232 or USB port.  Neither are available on an iPad. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Nov 7, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Barry Baines via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Howard:
> 
> I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
> you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
> program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
> accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year 
> and it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.
> 
> In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
> RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
> RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 
> and a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating 
> remotely.  The RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as 
> far as I know there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can 
> be accessed with any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, 
> etc.
> 
> At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
> amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their 
> PGXL amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may 
> develop a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated 
> equipment.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Barry Baines, WD4ASW
> Keller, TX
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
>> 
>> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
>> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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Re: [Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-07 Thread Barry Baines via Elecraft 
Howard:

I’m not aware of a iOS program that manages Elecraft equipment directly.  If 
you do a search on the App Store app found on the iPad, you can look at a 
program developed by KS7D that apparently interfaces with a PC that in turn 
accesses the Elecraft gear.  However, it hasn’t been updated in over a year and 
it isn’t clear to me how compatible it is with iOS13.x.

In the case of the KPA500, an alternative might be to use the Remote Rig 
RR-1216H to attach to the serial port of the KPA500 and then access the 
RR-1216H through a web interface.  I use the RR-1216H to manage the KPA500 and 
a second one to manage my Green Heron controller while operating remotely.  The 
RR-1216H has a configuration specifically for the KPA500; as far as I know 
there isn’t a configuration for the KPA-1500. The RR-1216H can be accessed with 
any web browser platform such as the iPhone, iPad, Android, etc.

At this point the only ’true’ iPad app for controlling a transceiver and 
amplifier remotely is SmartSDR for IOS for the Flex-6000 series and their PGXL 
amplifier.  I would expect that after the K4 is released, ’someone’ may develop 
a similar capability for the new Elecraft transceiver and associated equipment.


Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Keller, TX

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Howard Sherer  wrote:
> 
> Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
> the new Apple Ipad os ?
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[Elecraft] will utility programs run on Apple Ipad os ?

2019-11-07 Thread Howard Sherer 
Will any of the K3, KPA and KAT utility programs and remote programs run on
the new Apple Ipad os ?
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