Fwd: [Elecraft] ATU vs. External Tuner - Please

2008-10-26 Thread k4tmc


All of the suggestions so far are good; however, it sure would be great 
if Elecraft would offer a true remote tuner that can be mounted at the 
antenna feedpoint.  This might even alleviate the need for some of us 
to consider a KPA800, etc.


As an alternate, maybe a kit to make the existing KAT3 remoteable would 
be good.


73,
Henry - K4TMC
K3/100 #98


-Original Message-
From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ATU vs. External Tuner


Frank MacDonell wrote:


I have a k3 with internal antenna tuner connected to a 40 meter dipole
in the attic. Will the internal ATU work for me visiting other bands
or would I be better off installing a tuner between the rig and the
antenna? Is an auto tuner more preferred than automatic? Thanks to all
for your time.

That depends on what antennas you will be using on other bands and what 
the

SWR will be.

Although the KAT3 will match a wider range of loads than the internal 
ATUs
in most non-Elecraft radios, the SWR still exists between the output of 
the

tuner and the antenna, and and can result in considerable signal loss if
coaxial cable is used (see http://www.g4ilo.com/antenna.html).

I used a KAT2 to tune a non-resonant loop in my attic for several 
years, but
my shack is in the room directly below the attic and the length of the 
coax
was only about 8 feet. If you are a much longer distance from your 
antenna
feed point then you would be better off either using open wire feed and 
an
external balanced tuner, or else using a battery powered remote 
automatic
ATU in the attic at the feed point so you use a coax feeder without 
undue

loss.

If you will be trying to use your 40m dipole on other bands then the
mismatch will be quite considerable on most of them and you should 
consider

one or other of the options stated above. If on the other hand you add
resonant lengths for other bands to the same feed point, creating a fan
dipole, then you should be able to get a good match on those bands and 
you

will be able to use the KAT3 without worrying about feeder loss.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
http://www.g4ilo.com/ G4ILO's Shack   http://www.ham-directory.com/ Ham
Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and 
K3

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Re: Fwd: [Elecraft] ATU vs. External Tuner - Please

2008-10-26 Thread Bill NY9H

At 12:47 PM 10/26/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

All of the suggestions so far are good; however, it sure would be 
great if Elecraft would offer a true remote tuner that can be 
mounted at the antenna feedpoint.  This might even alleviate the 
need for some of us to consider a KPA800, etc.


or does it illuminate a need for two remote tuners100 watt   and 
later a 2 killerwatt  for the kpa1500..


both viable worldwide marketsfor all brands of stuff ...
 and small enough not to be factory builtKITS   YEA !!!


bill

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