Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

2006-03-24 Thread Dick Ballard
I use a method similar to my home installation of a 100 foot spool of
#16 insulated "primary" wire hanging from a limb high up in a big fir
tree. At home it drops from a 70 foot branch at a 45° angle. The
copper plumbing system in the crawl space is the "ground" half of the
system.

When camping I use the Hyperdog sling shot with mason's line and a 6
oz lead fishing weight to get my 100 foot wire as high as possible
into an available tree. I have another similar spool of wire which
could be the other half of a dipole if another tree is available. But
usually I just string it along the ground somewhere under the first
wire to act as a sort of radial.

I've used this method with my Icom703 and an MFJ-945C antenna tuner.
When camping, I use a short coax between the tuner and a binding post
adapter for the wires. That adapter ends up being quite low on a short
pole with only about 10-15 feet of coax from the tuner (which also
keeps losses at bay with the higher SWR's in this arrangement).

I set up the MFJ in the middle of a band (without the 703 tuner
engaged) and then use the 703 tuner to refine the match when I move
within the band. The MFJ settings are recorded so I can quickly switch
between bands. The resulting angles of this type of antenna produce a
mix of pattern and propagation characteristics of both horizontal and
vertical antennas.

Dick Ballard W7AND
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beaverton OR (near Portland)


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:09:20 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>Wow, What a support Group  Thanks to all the oldsters out there who 
>responded to my cataract problem (surgery went well yesterday by the way).
>   
>  Now my next question is what kind of antennas to use (mostly for 20 meters) 
> when out camping. Here in Northeastern Illinois, most campsites have only one 
> tree to hang a dipole on which would leave the ends to droop to the ground 
> etc.
>  What do most of you guys use when camping?
>   
>  Next question in line will be Power Supplies for the K1.
>   
>  Dick Powers WB9PWQ / AFA3DP


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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

2006-03-24 Thread Daniel Reynolds
Along those same lines - back about 10 years ago while trying to participate in
field day with a group of local hams at a cabin in the U.P. of Michigan, I
ended up stringing an 80m dipole up about 6-10 feet off the ground, and made
dozens of contacts within 500 miles (MI, WI, MN, IA, IL, IN). I don't think I
was QRP (I believe it was a TenTec Scout at 50W), but it worked well, and I had
alot of fun.

Daniel AA0NI
Oklahoma City

--- Robert Tellefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dick
> Don't let just a single tree in a campsite hold you back.
> Use it and have fun.  Drooping dipoles work just fine.
> 
> When the xyl and I were camping in Oregon, there were only some
> rose bushes by our campsite and no trees.  So I laid out my
> 40m dipole over the bushes, about 4 ft above ground, fired
> up my old HW-8 and had a number of nice QSOs.  Great time,
> sitting at the picnic table with my lantern and a 12v lantern
> battery for the HW-8.
> 
> Good luck and 73
> Bob N6WG
> The Little Station with Attitude
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Richard Powers
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:09 AM
> To: Elecraft
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas
> 
> 
> Wow, What a support Group  Thanks to all the oldsters out there who
> responded to my cataract problem (surgery went well yesterday by the way).
> 
>   Now my next question is what kind of antennas to use (mostly for 20
> meters) when out camping. Here in Northeastern Illinois, most campsites have
> only one tree to hang a dipole on which would leave the ends to droop to the
> ground etc.
>   What do most of you guys use when camping?
> 
>   Next question in line will be Power Supplies for the K1.
> 
>   Dick Powers WB9PWQ / AFA3DP
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

2006-03-24 Thread james1787
I have a portable dipole that I use for camping. I bought it off ebay. 
The doublets each roll up in a plastic wind-up contraption. It's kind 
of like a yo yo tenna deluxe (not made by the same company). The center 
insulator has two screw terminals that I connect my 300 ohm ladder line 
to.


I've found it's easy to set it up as an inverted vee. I really only 
have to get the center up as high as I can. Getting the end of the 
doublets up semi-high is no big deal. It's alot less time and less 
aggravation then trying to set it up in a true dipole configuration 
with both ends being up. From NJ running 5 watts into the antenna I 
worked Switzerland with no problem.


73,

James KB2FCV

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From: Robert Tellefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Richard Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Elecraft 


Sent: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:45:31 -0800
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

Dick
Don't let just a single tree in a campsite hold you back.
Use it and have fun.  Drooping dipoles work just fine.

When the xyl and I were camping in Oregon, there were only some
rose bushes by our campsite and no trees.  So I laid out my
40m dipole over the bushes, about 4 ft above ground, fired
up my old HW-8 and had a number of nice QSOs.  Great time,
sitting at the picnic table with my lantern and a 12v lantern
battery for the HW-8.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
The Little Station with Attitude

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Richard Powers
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:09 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas


Wow, What a support Group  Thanks to all the oldsters out there who
responded to my cataract problem (surgery went well yesterday by the 
way).


 Now my next question is what kind of antennas to use (mostly for 20
meters) when out camping. Here in Northeastern Illinois, most campsites 
have
only one tree to hang a dipole on which would leave the ends to droop 
to the

ground etc.
 What do most of you guys use when camping?

 Next question in line will be Power Supplies for the K1.

 Dick Powers WB9PWQ / AFA3DP
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RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

2006-03-24 Thread Robert Tellefsen
Dick
Don't let just a single tree in a campsite hold you back.
Use it and have fun.  Drooping dipoles work just fine.

When the xyl and I were camping in Oregon, there were only some
rose bushes by our campsite and no trees.  So I laid out my
40m dipole over the bushes, about 4 ft above ground, fired
up my old HW-8 and had a number of nice QSOs.  Great time,
sitting at the picnic table with my lantern and a 12v lantern
battery for the HW-8.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
The Little Station with Attitude

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Richard Powers
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:09 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas


Wow, What a support Group  Thanks to all the oldsters out there who
responded to my cataract problem (surgery went well yesterday by the way).

  Now my next question is what kind of antennas to use (mostly for 20
meters) when out camping. Here in Northeastern Illinois, most campsites have
only one tree to hang a dipole on which would leave the ends to droop to the
ground etc.
  What do most of you guys use when camping?

  Next question in line will be Power Supplies for the K1.

  Dick Powers WB9PWQ / AFA3DP
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K1-20 - - Now Camping - Antennas

2006-03-24 Thread Bob Towers
I use one of these 8 foot long two-piece magmount verticals for 20 metres. I 
just put it on top of the car - or a sheet of metal if I don't have the car - 
and it works a treat. Doesn't even need an ATU.

I've managed the States and Japan miles from here with 4 watts RTTY no problem.

73

Bob
2M0KDZ
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