Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Osborn
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:43:02 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>All the daylight savings transition dates are chizeled into Windows.  I'll bet 
>Bill Gates is sponsoring this legislation to sell the next decendant of XP.

Its a table stored in the Windows registry; very easy to change. I've
made the change myself for a customer in Australia where Microsoft had
it wrong.
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread rrennard
All the daylight savings transition dates are chizeled into Windows.  I'll bet 
Bill Gates is sponsoring this legislation to sell the next decendant of XP.
N7WY
> 
> From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/05 Mon AM 11:28:31 EDT
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
> 
> The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says 
> daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring 
> and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second 
> Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in 
> November...Starting in 2007...;^)
> 
> Jerry, wa2dkg
> 
> > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
> > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
> > know about this?
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Larry Cahoon

At 07:21 PM 9/5/2005 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:

Fred,

 Windows Xp has a registry entry that keeps all the time zone
information.  All Microsoft has to do is update that entry; it should
be a very simple change.


My PC is on GMT year round - no problem here.

73 de Larry...WD3P in MD
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Osborn
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:26:59 +0100, G8IFF/KC8NHF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>So with these new changes, Indiana will get really confused.

Not anymore, Indiana decided to change to DST last April.

"Until April 2005, when Indiana passed a law agreeing to observe
daylight saving time, the Hoosier state had its own unique and complex
time system. Not only is the state split between two time zones, but
until recently, only some parts of the state observed daylight saving
time while the majority did not"

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread ron
 It's probably nothing to worry about because all the computers runs on 
DAYlight saving time.


I'm not sure what runs on DATlight saving (smile).

Ron wb1hga
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread G8IFF/KC8NHF
GMT doesn't rule here and we invented it!!

So with these new changes, Indiana will get really confused.

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:13, Fred Jensen wrote:

> 
> So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many 
> distractions.  Why can't GMT rule?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Hurrah! for Europe - the chaos in the US will be best observed from the 
safety of the old continent :-)


I just wonder how many people will start to complain when my software shows 
the wrong time :-(


It will actually be very easy to solve Windows-related problems.

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From the horse's mouth:

"On August 8, 2005, President George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy Act 
of 2005. This Act changed the time change dates in the U.S. Beginning in 
2007, DST will begin on the second Sunday of March, and end the first 
Sunday of November. Note that the Secretary shall report to Congress on 
the impact of this change. Congress retains the right to revert the 
Daylight Saving Time back to the 2005 time schedules once the Department 
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 9/5/05 9:49:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> There are LOTS of devices with clocks  
> that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the  
> 70s. Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think  
> of your favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will  
> get to replace them all.
> 
> 

Heck, even older operating systems like Win95 and Win98...

Of course there are work-arounds, like lying to the computer for a couple of 
weeks a year.

I'm not going to replace anything. Because sooner or later they'll probably 
change back!

73 de Jim, N2EY
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Tim N9PUZ

Jack Brindle wrote:
This one will be a real pain. There are LOTS of devices with clocks  
that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the  70s. 
Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think  of your 
favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will  get to 
replace them all.


...or just reset the time like I do with my old Timex analog pocket watch.

Tim N9PUZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Jack Brindle
This one will be a real pain. There are LOTS of devices with clocks  
that use the time change algorithm that has been in use since the  
70s. Every one of those devices will become obsolete. So, just think  
of your favorite devices, such as VCRs, wrist watches, etc. You will  
get to replace them all.


We have a year to get our legislators to reverse this situation and  
bring sanity back...


On Sep 5, 2005, at 5:13 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

What next will my Government complicate for us and how?  I have to  
get the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even  
figure out how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are  
another issue ... I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and  
my truck (he says hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ...  
what about the 2.5 and 5 GHz cordless phones we have in the house.   
Surely they can't expect us to find the manuals ... can they?   
(Actually, did they check about that or care?)  What is XP going to  
do?  (OK, that may be an idle question ... I do wonder if Microsoft  
knows what it is going to do, but whatever it does will surely be  
billed as a 'feature')


So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many  
distractions.  Why can't GMT rule?


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Jack Brindle wrote:

Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October,  
you  will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three  
weeks.  Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST  
Sunday in  October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC...

On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:

HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.   
If  it is to
end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is  
a  FULL

month more in the fall.  ?

Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.

Milt, N5IA

- Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving




The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper  
clipping  and says



daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month  
in the
spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks  
earlier,  on the

second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
November...Starting in 2007...;^)




Jerry, wa2dkg




I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
know about this?



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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Matt Osborn
Fred,

 Windows Xp has a registry entry that keeps all the time zone
information.  All Microsoft has to do is update that entry; it should
be a very simple change.

Only a politician would think he could change the length of a day by
passing a law...

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:13:22 -0700, Fred Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>What next will my Government complicate for us and how?  I have to get 
>the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even figure out 
>how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are another issue ... 
>I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and my truck (he says 
>hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ... what about the 2.5 and 5 
>GHz cordless phones we have in the house.  Surely they can't expect us 
>to find the manuals ... can they?  (Actually, did they check about that 
>or care?)  What is XP going to do?  (OK, that may be an idle question 
>... I do wonder if Microsoft knows what it is going to do, but whatever 
>it does will surely be billed as a 'feature')
>
>So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many 
>distractions.  Why can't GMT rule?
>
>Fred K6DGW
>Auburn CA CM98lw
>
>Jack Brindle wrote:
>> Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you  
>> will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks.  Current 
>> law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in  October. Well, 
>> except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC...
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:
>> 
>>> HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If  it 
>>> is to
>>> end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a  FULL
>>> month more in the fall.  ?
>>>
>>> Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.
>>>
>>> Milt, N5IA
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
>>>
>>>
>>>
 The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping  and 
 says

>>> daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the
>>> spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier,  
>>> on the
>>> second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
>>> November...Starting in 2007...;^)
>>>

 Jerry, wa2dkg


> I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
> late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
> know about this?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Fred Jensen
What next will my Government complicate for us and how?  I have to get 
the instruction manual, like I know where I put that, to even figure out 
how to set the clocks, and our multitude of phones are another issue ... 
I suppose Ubiquitel will set our cell phones and my truck (he says 
hopefully because otherwise, he is screwed) ... what about the 2.5 and 5 
GHz cordless phones we have in the house.  Surely they can't expect us 
to find the manuals ... can they?  (Actually, did they check about that 
or care?)  What is XP going to do?  (OK, that may be an idle question 
... I do wonder if Microsoft knows what it is going to do, but whatever 
it does will surely be billed as a 'feature')


So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many 
distractions.  Why can't GMT rule?


Fred K6DGW
Auburn CA CM98lw

Jack Brindle wrote:
Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you  
will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks.  Current 
law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in  October. Well, 
except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC...


On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:

HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If  it 
is to

end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a  FULL
month more in the fall.  ?

Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.

Milt, N5IA

- Original Message -
From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving



The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping  and 
says



daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the
spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier,  
on the

second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
November...Starting in 2007...;^)



Jerry, wa2dkg



I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
know about this?


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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Nielsen
Life was so much easier when I lived in Arizona!

73, Bob N7XY

On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 04:48:13PM -0700, Jack Brindle wrote:
> Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you  
> will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks.  
> Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in  
> October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC...
> 
> On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:
> 
> >HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If  
> >it is to
> >end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a  
> >FULL
> >month more in the fall.  ?
> >
> >Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.
> >
> >Milt, N5IA
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
> >Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
> >
> >
> >
> >>The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping  
> >>and says
> >>
> >daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the
> >spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier,  
> >on the
> >second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
> >November...Starting in 2007...;^)
> >
> >>
> >>Jerry, wa2dkg
> >>
> >>
> >>>I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
> >>>late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
> >>>know about this?
> >>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Jack Brindle
Milt, if you set your clocks back on the first Sunday in October, you  
will be out of sync with the rest of us for about three weeks.  
Current law has us setting the clocks back on the LAST Sunday in  
October. Well, except for the clocks we keep on GMT/UTC...


On Sep 5, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:

HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If  
it is to
end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a  
FULL

month more in the fall.  ?

Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.

Milt, N5IA

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From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving



The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping  
and says



daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the
spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier,  
on the

second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
November...Starting in 2007...;^)



Jerry, wa2dkg



I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
know about this?


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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread W2AGN

Milt Jensen, N5IA wrote:

HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If it is to
end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL
month more in the fall.  ?

Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.

Milt, N5IA



From the horse's mouth:

"On August 8, 2005, President George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy 
Act of 2005. This Act changed the time change dates in the U.S. 
Beginning in 2007, DST will begin on the second Sunday of March, and end 
the first Sunday of November. Note that the Secretary shall report to 
Congress on the impact of this change. Congress retains the right to 
revert the Daylight Saving Time back to the 2005 time schedules once the 
Department study is complete."


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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-05 Thread Milt Jensen, N5IA
HMMM   DST now terminates on the first Sunday in October.  If it is to
end the first Sunday in November beginning in 2007, then that is a FULL
month more in the fall.  ?

Clarification please, Jerry, from your XYL.

Milt, N5IA

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 8:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving


> The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says
daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the
spring and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the
second Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in
November...Starting in 2007...;^)
>
> Jerry, wa2dkg
>
> > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
> > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
> > know about this?
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