Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem

2009-05-17 Thread Mike Harris
Cascading IPs maybe if you're running an intermediate amp to drive the big 
one.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem


|I don't see 10 watts as a problem.  How many 2 meter amps do you have on 
the
| shelf just waiting to be used again?  40 w 15 years old ($90 new then), 
two
| converted police amps (ugly but they work well) both run over 85 watts
| continuous with 5 watts in ($50) at hamfests if there any still around) 
and
| a 140 w that takes 2 watts drive for full power and the other is a 160 w
| that runs full output at 35 watts and over half of that from an ht 
(don't
| remember exactly how much).  10 watts a problem? - i just don't see it.
|
| Lots of external amps out there.
| 73, Jim KG0KP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem

2009-05-17 Thread Erik N Basilier
Exactly. On 144 the weak signals are so weak that TX cleanness as well as RX 
dynamic range become a very difficult problems. You want a minimum number of 
TX stages to mess up the signal, and minimum phase noise. Most solid state 
amp's that might be available in the shack may not be clean enough to drive 
the big one. Hmmm years ago I was looking at a 144 legal limit amp 
project described in the 1988 ARRL Handbook. It uses a tetrode and produces 
full output with just 10W in. That one is now back on my list of dreams

73,
Erik K7TV

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From: Mike Harris mike.har...@horizon.co.fk
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Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem


 Cascading IPs maybe if you're running an intermediate amp to drive the big
 one.

 Regards,

 Mike VP8NO

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 From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net
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 Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:33 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem


 |I don't see 10 watts as a problem.  How many 2 meter amps do you have on
 the


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power - 10 watts not a problem

2009-05-16 Thread Jim Miller KG0KP
I don't see 10 watts as a problem.  How many 2 meter amps do you have on the 
shelf just waiting to be used again?  40 w 15 years old ($90 new then), two 
converted police amps (ugly but they work well) both run over 85 watts 
continuous with 5 watts in ($50) at hamfests if there any still around) and 
a 140 w that takes 2 watts drive for full power and the other is a 160 w 
that runs full output at 35 watts and over half of that from an ht (don't 
remember exactly how much).  10 watts a problem? - i just don't see it.

Lots of external amps out there.
73, Jim KG0KP

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From: K3JPS k3jps@gmail.com
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power


 One could always purchase or build there own external 2m linear as an
 option.

 73 de James

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
 m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 That's what it says - I doublt the KPA3 is designed to handle 2m and
 the module has it's own Ant. socket.
 --
 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice,
 but in practice there is.

 On 14 May 2009, at 15:55, Rick Braun wrote:

  Is the 144 mhz module limited to 10 watts, even in a K3/100?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power

2009-05-14 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
That's what it says - I doublt the KPA3 is designed to handle 2m and  
the module has it's own Ant. socket.
-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice,
but in practice there is.

On 14 May 2009, at 15:55, Rick Braun wrote:

 Is the 144 mhz module limited to 10 watts, even in a K3/100?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 144mhz power

2009-05-14 Thread K3JPS
One could always purchase or build there own external 2m linear as an
option.

73 de James

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:58 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF 
m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote:

 That's what it says - I doublt the KPA3 is designed to handle 2m and
 the module has it's own Ant. socket.
 --
 In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice,
 but in practice there is.

 On 14 May 2009, at 15:55, Rick Braun wrote:

  Is the 144 mhz module limited to 10 watts, even in a K3/100?

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