Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR KEY - Continuous Keying

2009-04-09 Thread W0FK

Did you check your CW key and/or paddle? I have had that issue when the plug 
was slightly askew or if it was making contact. The error code indicates a 
closed connection somewhere. Also check the cables to your amplifier (if you 
ahve one in line).

Lou, W0FK 



My K3 display shows ERR KEY when I turn it on. It's been working flawlessly 
until now and no recent changes have been 
made.

1.No programs are running on the computer. ERR Key is displayed on the K3
2.If I shut down the computer the ERR Key turns off partway thru the 
Windows is Shutting Down screen.
3.If I turn on the computer with the K3 on, it keys the transmitter a few 
times then it keys on continuously after 
windows comes up.
4.I disconnected both the RS232 and ACCY cables from the K3 but 
surprisingly the K3 remained keyed with the same 
symptoms.

5.I disconnected the Line Out cable from the K3 and it unkeyed. However, it 
would periodically/intermittently key 
for about half a second on its own.
6.I reconnected the Line Out and the K3 again keyed continuously.
7.I disconnected the Line In cable from the K3 and the K3 unkeyed. However, 
it would periodically key for about half 
a second on its own.
8.I checked both Line In and line Out cables for continuity or shorts. Both 
are OK.
9.I checked the sound card for functionality using a second radio. It works 
properly for both Line In and Line Out.
10.  Both Line In and Line Out cables are stereo cables.
11.  If the K3 is on when windows starts up it goes into key down mode. If I 
start windows with the K3 off and then turn 
the K3 on the K3 displays the ERR Key diagnostic.

I don't understand what Line Out or Line In has to do with keying the 
transmitter.

Any suggestions on what happened and how to fix it? Until now all has been 
perfect.

73,

Bud W3LL
w...@arrl.net


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR KEY - Continuous Keying

2009-04-09 Thread Paul Fletcher



My K3 display shows ERR KEY when I turn it on. 

Try disconnecting all cables from the K3 except the antenna and power 
(obviously!) and see if the symptoms persist. If they don't, plug in one cable 
at a time until the problem returns and go from there. Alternatively it could 
be a problem with the I/O daughter board. If you still have the problem with 
all cables disconnected remove the daughter board that has the RS232 and 
accessory connectors on (the K3 will operate fine without it) and see if that 
fixes the problem. If it does clean the daughter board thoroughly with 
something that removes water soluble flux and a tooth brush, let it dry and 
reinstall it and see if that fixes the problem. If the problem reappears you 
could try again or get the board replaced.

If removing the board doesn't fix the problem I'd suggest contacting Elecraft 
tech support.

Regards,
Paul M1PAF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR KEY - Continuous Keying

2009-04-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bud,

If the K3 is powered on with a KEY(or paddles) or PTT closure, ERR KEY 
will result, and will not transmit until the condition is cleared. (but 
connect a dummy load just in case).

I am not certain the LINE IN has anything to do with it, but if VOX is 
on, the K3 can be keyed with the LINE IN signal.  Has your computer 
developed a noisy sound card?  Connect amplified speakers to the 
computer line out to see what it sounds like.  Is there hum pickup on 
your cable to the K3 LINE IN?

Have you connected the computer enclosure and the K3 together with a 
good grounding conductor?  If not, try it and see if that helps.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bud Governale, W3LL wrote:
 My K3 display shows ERR KEY when I turn it on. It's been working flawlessly 
 until now and no recent changes have been 
 made.

 1.No programs are running on the computer. ERR Key is displayed on the K3
 2.If I shut down the computer the ERR Key turns off partway thru the 
 Windows is Shutting Down screen.
 3.If I turn on the computer with the K3 on, it keys the transmitter a few 
 times then it keys on continuously after 
 windows comes up.
 4.I disconnected both the RS232 and ACCY cables from the K3 but 
 surprisingly the K3 remained keyed with the same 
 symptoms.

 5.I disconnected the Line Out cable from the K3 and it unkeyed. However, 
 it would periodically/intermittently key 
 for about half a second on its own.
 6.I reconnected the Line Out and the K3 again keyed continuously.
 7.I disconnected the Line In cable from the K3 and the K3 unkeyed. 
 However, it would periodically key for about half 
 a second on its own.
 8.I checked both Line In and line Out cables for continuity or shorts. 
 Both are OK.
 9.I checked the sound card for functionality using a second radio. It 
 works properly for both Line In and Line Out.
 10.  Both Line In and Line Out cables are stereo cables.
 11.  If the K3 is on when windows starts up it goes into key down mode. If I 
 start windows with the K3 off and then turn 
 the K3 on the K3 displays the ERR Key diagnostic.

 I don't understand what Line Out or Line In has to do with keying the 
 transmitter.

 Any suggestions on what happened and how to fix it? Until now all has been 
 perfect.

 73,

 Bud W3LL
 w...@arrl.net
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 ERR KEY - Continuous Keying

2009-04-09 Thread Gill W4RYW

See if you can isolate the problem - Turn off the K3  disconnect the computer 
from the K3, turn it on and check the config menu setting for PTT-KEY. Turn 
both PTT and KEY to OFF. Turn off the VOX. Turn off the K3 and reconnect the 
computer. Turn on K3 then start up computer. You should be ok.  If not call 
Aptos. otherwise go to PTT-KEY menu and turn back on whatever was originally 
on. If the problem re-appears, then your computer is asserting either the RTS 
or DTR line continually and now you have to trouble shoot the computer - likely 
some program or program update is screwed up. All this is assuming that sound 
card is clean and not activating VOX. If you turn on VOX and it keys again, 
then you still have a computer soundcard issue.

Good Luck

Gill W4RYW
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