--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Raph Frank raph...@gmail.com wrote:
I would think that presetting the desired boundaries
would avoid that.
Pre-set boundaries have the disadvantage that the lead to
imbalances
in the voter to seat ratios.
A 5 seat district could have a population of anywhere
between 4.5 and
5.5 of the national average (roughly). This gives a
potential
imbalance of +/- 10%.
I didn't mean presetting the entire shape of any district, just the line
along whatever geographic or cultural divide we think districts shouldn't
cross. The program will draw the other lines to equalize population and
maximize whichever value (compactness, distance from the geographical
center, travel time, etc.) we make our standard for good districts.
Ofc, if the districts are very large, then this is less of
an issue.
Also, the elimination of gerrymandering might be worth the
slight
imbalance.
The imbalance is worst when the districts are small.
One option is to
have a process for combining smaller districts.
For example, any district which has less than 5 seats is
combined with
a neighbour. Once that is done, any district with
more than 12 seats
is split in 2 so that each part has at least 5 seats.
Ofc, that would like not be acceptable in the US, assuming
by
district, you mean State.
I mean geographical divisions that exist solely to designate which voters
will fill a seat or set of seats. A state may also serve that function,
but that's not the reason it exists. Your intuition is right: merging and
splitting states to create a desired magnitude (in the House elections,
presumably) wouldn't be acceptable to the general public, because that's
not what states are for. Actually, I don't really see much to be gained
from it even in situations where the designer has a free hand to set
district lines. It seems better to me to equalize the magnitudes and
adjust the lines (or draw them de novo after every census) to keep them
equal. In the context of House elections in America that's complicated by
the fact that each state is apportioned a number of Representatives based
on population, but within each state the districts could be of the same
magnitude, with any remainder elected at-large. (Although at the current
size of the House most states won't even need districts to use standard
STV.)
[if both used PR-STV] I see no reason for having two
houses, in that case.
It probably depends on how you do it.
In the US, you could in principle elect the 2 Senators
using PR-STV
and the N Representatives using PR-STV.
This would mean that there is still an imbalance between
the 2 Houses,
due to the population imbalance between the States.
Another option is longer terms.
For example, you could expand the terms for the
Senate. If you
elected 5 Senators by PR-STV, every 2 years, for a 20 year
term, then
that would give you a 50 member Senate.
The House could also be elected by PR-STV, but as a single
block.
The effect would be that the Senate is more stable (as it
is the
average viewpoint over a 20 year period), while the House
would be a
snap-shot. Also, at any time at most 10% of the
Senate would be
seeking re-election, so it would be less subject to short
terrm
election planning. Ofc, with 20 year terms, many
Senators would
probably just seek 1 term.
This may lead to the Senate being considered old and wise
or maybe
just massively corrupt due to the lack of having to stand
for
re-election.
In Ireland, the Seanad doesn't have veto powers over
legislation. It
only has the ability to delay legislation for 180
days. It isn't
actually very powerful anyway, as the Government has the
right to
appoint 11 members (out of 60), so they always have a
majority in the
Seanad (though at the moment, their majority is zero, so
they rely on
the Chairman's casting vote).
I would also add a rule that Senators and Representatives
can't become
members of the other House for at least 5 years after they
have left
their original house. This is to try to encourage
different types of
people to stand for each House.
That's an interesting idea, although I doubt many American voters would
be willing to accept such long terms. Perhaps something like that,
combined with a power to veto legislation or at least call early
elections for Commons, would be a suitable reform (or replacement) for
the the House of Lords in the UK.
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