[EM] Poll Update
Poll Update: Of course the nomination period has ended. And of course the voting period beginsimmediately when the nomination period ends. Note that I said “voting _period_”, and not “voting”, which is an entirely different matter. I did and do feel that I should propose a poll. I’ve been saying this in various ways previously, but let me say it in this way now: Though I wanted to make a poll available, and though you’re welcome to participate, that’s your business only. Please don’t think that I _expect_ anyone to participate. You might get that impression, given the care with which I’ve specified the poll and its nomination and balloting periods. It’s just something that I felt that I should do. Let me give you a tip: In general, with things like this, what matters, rather than the outcome, is what __you_ do. …that you did your part. That’s why I’m proceeding with the poll postings though there haven’t been any nominations other than my own. Likewise, I’ll post my ballot, regardless of whether it may be the only one. A demonstration ballot is part of a poll. So the voting period began Sunday, two days ago. Let’s say that the voting period ends on February 1st, at 0 hours, one minute, GMT (UT) if, at that time, there hasn’t been a ballot posted during the previous 72 hours. If there has, then the voting period ends as soon as, subsequent to February 1st, there hasn’t been a ballot posted for 72 hours. I’d initially suggested 3 ballotings for the poll. Two other people suggested two additional ones, for a total of 5. I’d like to add one more: Approval without other balloting options. I suggest that the poll should include such a ballot because traditionally all of EM’s polls have included an ordinary Approval balloting. So here are the 6 ballotings in the poll: Approval without other voting optionsApproval with other voting optionsScore Voting (0-99)3-Slot Unlimited RankingIRV3/AV3 I couldn’t find IRV3/AV3 in the electowiki, but I’m hoping that Dave will post its definition to EM. For my participation in EM, I’ve saved the poll for last. After the end of the voting period, I’ll put some method and criterion definitions in the electowiki. Then I’ll check out polls and polling possibilities elsewhere than EM. During the days when I’m doing those things, I’ll continue to look at the EM postings, and maybe sometimes comment when appropriate. My own ballot, the demonstration ballot, will combine 3-slot with unlimited rankings, because I’m not voting for more than two parties. Of course there’s no need to vote more than one 3-slot ranking, and, if desired, one longer ranking. That’s how people have traditionally voted in EM polls: One ranking. As for myself, I’ll vote 3 rankings: One for methods that fail the CD criterion; one for methods that pass CD and require mutual coalition support to defeat C in the ABE; and one for methods that pass CD and allow unilateral coalition-support to defeat C. But you needn’t bother with such distinctions. Typically people here have voted just one ranking. Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
[EM] Ballot
My ballot, which is also the demonstration ballot: -- Approval without other voting options: G/GPUSA - Approval with other voting options: Voting option chosen: MTAOC Top-rated: G/GPUSA Middle-rated: GPUS (conditional) AERLO - Score-Voting (0-99): G/GPUSA: 99 All others zero -- 3-Slot and Unlimited-Ranking: For methods that fail the CD crirerion: 1.G/GPUSA --- For methods that meet CD and only defeat C in the ABE if there is mutual coalition support: G/GPUSAGPUS For methods that meet CD and can defeat C in the ABE by unilateral coalition-support: G/GPUSAGPUS AERLO - I’ll vote an IRV3/AV3 ballot when that method’s definition is posted to EM. - Designated method: Approval with other voting options Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
[EM] The list of ballotings didn't post well. So I'm re-posting it here
These are the ballotings in the poll. If you participate, try to vote a ballot for each of these ballotings.It won't take long,due to the small number of parties nominated. But if there isn't sufficient time to vote all 6 of the ballotings,then vote whichever ones you want to. 1. Approval without other voting options 2. Approval with other voting options 3. Score-Voting (0-99) 4. 3-Slot rankings 5. Unlimited rankings 6. IRV3/AV3 Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] The list of ballotings didn't post well. So I'm re-posting it here
On 17 Jan 2012 10:35:25 -0800, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: These are the ballotings in the poll. If you participate, try to vote a ballot for each of these ballotings.It won't take long,due to the small number of parties nominated. But if there isn't sufficient time to vote all 6 of the ballotings,then vote whichever ones you want to. 1. Approval without other voting options 2. Approval with other voting options 3. Score-Voting (0-99) 4. 3-Slot rankings Could you clarify that 3-slot means something like Prefer, Accept, Reject? That is, two approved rankings and one disapproved. Thanks, Ted 5. Unlimited rankings 6. IRV3/AV3 Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info -- araucaria dot araucana at gmail dot com Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
[EM] My ballot didn't post correctly. Re-posting it.
The rankings portion of my ballot didn't post correctly. I'm re-posting the ballot here: My ballot, which is also the demonstration ballot: -- Approval without other voting options: G/GPUSA - Approval with other voting options: Voting option chosen: MTAOC Top-rated: G/GPUSA Middle-rated: GPUS (conditional) AERLO - Score-Voting (0-99): G/GPUSA: 99 All others zero -- 3-Slot and Unlimited-Ranking: For methods that fail the CD criterion: 1.G/GPUSA --- For methods that meet CD and only defeat C in the ABE if there is mutual coalition support: 1.G/GPUSA 2.GPUS For methods that meet CD and can defeat C in the ABE by unilateral coalition-support: 1.G/GPUSA 2.GPUS AERLO - I’ll vote an IRV3/AV3 ballot when that method’s definition is posted to EM. - Designated method: Approval with other voting options -- Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
[EM] 3-Slot ratings
Ted-- I'd said: 4. 3-Slot rankings You wrote: Could you clarify that 3-slot means something like Prefer, Accept, Reject? That is, two approved rankings and one disapproved. [endquote] Yes, that's how I mean it. I've been calling the 3 slots Top, Middle and Bottom, but of course that just refers to physical _position_ on the ballot. To put it in terms of the voter's actual rating of the candidates, then yes, it would be more accurate to call it Preferred, Accepted, Rejected. ...Because that's what the positions mean. On my own ballot, I rated GPUS Middle, because I consider GPUS to be acceptable, though not favorite, and though I distinctly prefer another party to it. I rated G/GPUSA Top because I prefer it to the other alternatives. So yes, Preferred, Accepted, Rejected is what the ratings really mean. For public elections, Preferred, Accepted, Rejected is probably better because it clarifies those meanings. For use in this poll, either naming is fine. I'd have spoken of Preferred, Accepted, Rejected instead of Top, Middle, Bottom, if it had occurred to me to put it in terms of what the positions actually mean, what the ballot is actually saying about the parties. So I agree that Preferred, Accepted, Rejected is a better way to say it, and therefore it is a better way to write it on the ballot. Mike Ossipoff Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
