[EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread fsimmons
So far SODA seems to be the best use of one bit ballots, i.e. the Plurality 
style ballots which have just 
one bubble to the right of each name. 

What is the best way to use two bit ballots, i.e. ballots that have two bubbles 
to the right of each name?

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Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm

fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote:
So far SODA seems to be the best use of one bit ballots, i.e. the Plurality style ballots which have just 
one bubble to the right of each name. 


What is the best way to use two bit ballots, i.e. ballots that have two bubbles 
to the right of each name?


Two-bit ballots can distinguish between three levels plus one 
bottom-ranked level. Thus, they can do ranked ballots for three 
candidates (with equal rank and truncation), so it's hard to say.


Knowing whether to use these 2^2 levels for rank or for Range-style 
rating depends on what method you think is the best. It could also be 
used for n-slot methods with n = 4.





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Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread fsimmons


- Original Message -
From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm 
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?
To: fsimm...@pcc.edu
Cc: election-methods@lists.electorama.com

 fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote:
  So far SODA seems to be the best use of one bit ballots, i.e. 
 the Plurality style ballots which have just 
  one bubble to the right of each name. 
  
  What is the best way to use two bit ballots, i.e. ballots that 
 have two bubbles to the right of each name?
 
 Two-bit ballots can distinguish between three levels plus one 
 bottom-ranked level. Thus, they can do ranked ballots for three 
 candidates (with equal rank and truncation), so it's hard to say.
 
 Knowing whether to use these 2^2 levels for rank or for Range-
 style 
 rating depends on what method you think is the best. It could 
 also be 
 used for n-slot methods with n = 4.
 

Which interpretation would be least confusing for the voter?

Suppose, for example we have

[name]  (1)  (2)

What is the most natural interpretation for the voter that doesn't read the 
instructions?

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Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm

fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote:



Which interpretation would be least confusing for the voter?

Suppose, for example we have

[name]  (1)  (2)

What is the most natural interpretation for the voter that doesn't read the 
instructions?



Either a Range ballot where greatest circle filled in counts (so if you 
mark both 1 and 2, that's 2 points), or Approval with undervote limits 
(you either have to fill in 1 or 2 for all candidates).


If it's Range, leaving it blank will either count as an abstention (soft 
quorum style) or as 0 points. If it's Approval, leaving any blank will 
make the ballot informal.


I think the Range ballot would be better than the Approval one, because 
having to fill in all candidates may lead people to request an 
above-the-line option of the ballot designers, and then voting above the 
line.



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Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread Dave Ketchum

On Jun 15, 2011, at 5:12 PM, fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Date: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?
To: fsimm...@pcc.edu
Cc: election-methods@lists.electorama.com


fsimm...@pcc.edu wrote:

So far SODA seems to be the best use of one bit ballots, i.e.

the Plurality style ballots which have just

one bubble to the right of each name.

What is the best way to use two bit ballots, i.e. ballots that

have two bubbles to the right of each name?

Two-bit ballots can distinguish between three levels plus one
bottom-ranked level. Thus, they can do ranked ballots for three
candidates (with equal rank and truncation), so it's hard to say.

Knowing whether to use these 2^2 levels for rank or for Range-
style
rating depends on what method you think is the best. It could
also be
used for n-slot methods with n = 4.



Which interpretation would be least confusing for the voter?

Suppose, for example we have

[name]  (1)  (2)

What is the most natural interpretation for the voter that doesn't  
read the instructions?


No natural here, so better guide:
 Ace (1) wins over deuce (2).
 Two (2) is a higher number than one (1).

Three (1+2) is fine, but needs guidance as to permisability.

Four has no slot ability, for a blank is simply nonnvoting - perhaps  
seen as truncation.




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Re: [EM] Best use of two bit ballots?

2011-06-15 Thread Jameson Quinn
DYN uses two bits, for different things. Filling in both approve and do
not delegate beside a given candidate is synonymous with approve, so it's
not actually a full two bits, but it's still a pretty good system. Still, I
have to say, I think that SODA beats it for simplicity, and if simplicity is
not an issue, then other systems probably beat it.

2011/6/15 fsimm...@pcc.edu

 So far SODA seems to be the best use of one bit ballots, i.e. the Plurality
 style ballots which have just
 one bubble to the right of each name.

 What is the best way to use two bit ballots, i.e. ballots that have two
 bubbles to the right of each name?
 
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