Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
Hallo, I rewrote section 5 ("Tie-Breaking") of my paper, so that it is now more in accordance with the other parts of my paper: http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze1.pdf Markus Schulze Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
On 2/20/12 1:15 PM, Markus Schulze wrote: Hallo, in example 3 of my paper, the weakest link of the strongest path from candidate A to candidate C is the same link as the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate C to candidate A: http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze1.pdf the thing that had been confusing me (until Kevin replied) is that the *direction* through that link is the same whether your defeat path is from A to C or the reverse. that seems sorta counter-intuitive. -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
Hallo, in example 3 of my paper, the weakest link of the strongest path from candidate A to candidate C is the same link as the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate C to candidate A: http://m-schulze.webhop.net/schulze1.pdf Markus Schulze Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
Hi Robert, Suppose there are four candidates ABCD. B beats A with strength of 10. C beats D with strength of 20. With strength of 30, A beats C, B beats C, D beats A, and D beats B. Then every candidate has a path to every other candidate, and the best path from A to B or from B to A involves traversing the C>D win (which is the weakest link in those paths). Kevin De : robert bristow-johnson À : election-methods@lists.electorama.com Envoyé le : Vendredi 17 février 2012 12h56 Objet : Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method On 2/17/12 1:27 PM, Markus Schulze wrote: > it can happen that the weakest link in the strongest path > from candidate A to candidate B and the weakest link in the > strongest path from candidate B to candidate A is the same link, > say CD. how can that be? since a path is a *defeat* path. you only traverse a beatpath from a candidate who beats the next candidate in the path. is it that candidates C and D are exactly tied? other than that, i cannot understand how the weakest link from A to B can be the same as *any* link from B to A. -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
On 2/17/12 1:27 PM, Markus Schulze wrote: it can happen that the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate A to candidate B and the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate B to candidate A is the same link, say CD. how can that be? since a path is a *defeat* path. you only traverse a beatpath from a candidate who beats the next candidate in the path. is it that candidates C and D are exactly tied? other than that, i cannot understand how the weakest link from A to B can be the same as *any* link from B to A. -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info
Re: [EM] Question about Schulze beatpath method
Hallo, it can happen that the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate A to candidate B and the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate B to candidate A is the same link, say CD. I recommend that, in this case, the link CD should be declared "forbidden" and the strongest path from candidate A to candidate B and the strongest path from candidate B to candidate A, that does not contain a "forbidden" link, should be calculated. If again the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate A to candidate B and the weakest link in the strongest path from candidate B to candidate A is the same link (say EF), then also this link should be declared "forbidden" and the paths from A to B and from B to A should be calculated. This should be repeated until the weakest link in the strongest path from A to B and the weakest link in the strongest path from B to A are different links. Markus Schulze Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info