Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Have you open dconf-editor, and modified "switch-to-workspace-left" and "switch-to-workspace-right" at "org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings"? El 08/10/12 00:43, Craig escribió: > I'm confused. Super+Z doesn't do anything for me... Am I using an old > version? > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Sergio Costas wrote: > >> I don't know... Anyway, it's not perfect, because there's a problem with >> key autorepeat :( If you press Super, then Z, it goes left; if you then >> release Z, but keep Super, it stops (as expected), but if you now press >> again Z, it doesn't do left again; you must keep both keys pressed, or >> release both and press them again. >> >> El 08/10/12 00:25, Craig escribió: >>> Can we sub in a mouse activity in place of a key combo? >>> On Oct 7, 2012 5:03 PM, "Sergio Costas" wrote: >>> I found how to change the keys for moving from one workspace to another: open dconf-editor, and go to org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings and there, modify "switch-to-workspace-left" and "switch-to-workspace-right". El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: > While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is > non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window > management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the last > one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system > something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot corners. > On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org >> wrote: >> 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas >> >>> Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to >>> go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to >>> a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. >>> >> There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to Super+WASD >> keys which is a great idea IMHO. >> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- >> Nos leemos >> RASTER(Linux user #228804) >> ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com >> >> -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
I'm confused. Super+Z doesn't do anything for me... Am I using an old version? On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Sergio Costas wrote: > I don't know... Anyway, it's not perfect, because there's a problem with > key autorepeat :( If you press Super, then Z, it goes left; if you then > release Z, but keep Super, it stops (as expected), but if you now press > again Z, it doesn't do left again; you must keep both keys pressed, or > release both and press them again. > > El 08/10/12 00:25, Craig escribió: > > Can we sub in a mouse activity in place of a key combo? > > On Oct 7, 2012 5:03 PM, "Sergio Costas" wrote: > > > >> I found how to change the keys for moving from one workspace to another: > >> open dconf-editor, and go to > >> > >> org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings > >> > >> and there, modify "switch-to-workspace-left" and > >> "switch-to-workspace-right". > >> > >> El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: > >>> While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is > >>> non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window > >>> management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the > >> last > >>> one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system > >>> something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot > >> corners. > >>> On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < > >> ser...@elementaryos.org > wrote: > 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas > > > Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x > >> to > > go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse > >> down to > > a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. > > > There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to > >> Super+WASD > keys which is a great idea IMHO. > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > >> > >> -- > >> Nos leemos > >> RASTER(Linux user #228804) > >> ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > > -- > Nos leemos > RASTER(Linux user #228804) > ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
I don't know... Anyway, it's not perfect, because there's a problem with key autorepeat :( If you press Super, then Z, it goes left; if you then release Z, but keep Super, it stops (as expected), but if you now press again Z, it doesn't do left again; you must keep both keys pressed, or release both and press them again. El 08/10/12 00:25, Craig escribió: > Can we sub in a mouse activity in place of a key combo? > On Oct 7, 2012 5:03 PM, "Sergio Costas" wrote: > >> I found how to change the keys for moving from one workspace to another: >> open dconf-editor, and go to >> >> org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings >> >> and there, modify "switch-to-workspace-left" and >> "switch-to-workspace-right". >> >> El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: >>> While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is >>> non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window >>> management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the >> last >>> one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system >>> something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot >> corners. >>> On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < >> ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas > Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x >> to > go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse >> down to > a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. > There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to >> Super+WASD keys which is a great idea IMHO. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- >> Nos leemos >> RASTER(Linux user #228804) >> ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Can we sub in a mouse activity in place of a key combo? On Oct 7, 2012 5:03 PM, "Sergio Costas" wrote: > I found how to change the keys for moving from one workspace to another: > open dconf-editor, and go to > > org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings > > and there, modify "switch-to-workspace-left" and > "switch-to-workspace-right". > > El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: > > While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is > > non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window > > management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the > last > > one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system > > something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot > corners. > > > > On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < > ser...@elementaryos.org > >> wrote: > >> 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas > >> > >>> Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x > to > >>> go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse > down to > >>> a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. > >>> > >> There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to > Super+WASD > >> keys which is a great idea IMHO. > >> > >> -- > >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > >> OS architect @ elementary > >> > >> -- > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > >> > > > -- > Nos leemos > RASTER(Linux user #228804) > ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
I found how to change the keys for moving from one workspace to another: open dconf-editor, and go to org->gnome->desktop->wm->keybindings and there, modify "switch-to-workspace-left" and "switch-to-workspace-right". El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: > While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is > non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window > management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the last > one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system > something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot corners. > > On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > wrote: >> 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas >> >>> Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to >>> go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to >>> a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. >>> >> There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to Super+WASD >> keys which is a great idea IMHO. >> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Personally, I dislike hot corners. I always trip them by accident, which seems like more of a problem than a solution. Given that corners are 4 of the 5 easiest places on the screen to mouse-over, there should be some guard to prevent against accidental tripping, like requiring a click or something. That's my opinion, at least. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:04 AM, satch...@gmail.com wrote: > Hot corners is the solution, but it's part of a bigger question of whether > Luna is coming with any hot corners enabled by default. > > On 7 October 2012 21:17, Craig wrote: > >> Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop >> machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real >> irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the >> mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the >> keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), >> activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to >> their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as >> most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, >> on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. >> >> Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by >> default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change >> workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard >> which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose >> coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're >> like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real >> annoyance. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Luna GRUB theme
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/elementary-grub 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > This is no way a Luna item, so please rename it to something like > grub-theme > > > 2012/10/7 Eduard Gotwig > >> Check this link for discussion, etc. : >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/luna-grub >> >> >> 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> >>> Why not, as long as it doesn't break anything. Might be a cool item for >>> Luna+1. BURG is cooler but we don't have the infrastructure to test and >>> debug it. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Eduard Gotwig wrote: > What about a super sexy grub theme :D ? > > Something like > http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GS%2BBeefy+Miracle+GRUB+and+Plymouth+theme?content=154495 > , > maybe? > > > Just wanted to ask, before I make a big blueprint. > >>> -- >>> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >>> OS architect @ elementary >>> >> >> > > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] No flash support, incomplete HTML5 videoplayer support, no java support (?) for midori(-granite) - IMHO release blocker
Hey, I want to note that the missing flash support for the new midori and very poor html5 videoplayer support, like not even youtube is supported, is in my eyes, a release blocker. https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1054327 https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/767442 https://bugs.launchpad.net/midori/+bug/1063385 And it seems like, there is no java support as well, but I can't confirm that. I very often read, that you would be able to fix this trough installing this, and this or this package... (ndiswrapper, etc.) Please say me, which package is needed, and how should our users know this?? If they tick the "restricted software" checkbox, they should get flash support, as well when installing ubuntu-restricted-extras (it basicly gets installed when users tick this box?) I want to note that other software webbrowsers, like GNOME's web, that use webkitgtk+ have the same problems currently. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Luna GRUB theme
This is no way a Luna item, so please rename it to something like grub-theme 2012/10/7 Eduard Gotwig > Check this link for discussion, etc. : > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/luna-grub > > > 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > >> Why not, as long as it doesn't break anything. Might be a cool item for >> Luna+1. BURG is cooler but we don't have the infrastructure to test and >> debug it. >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Eduard Gotwig wrote: >>> What about a super sexy grub theme :D ? Something like http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GS%2BBeefy+Miracle+GRUB+and+Plymouth+theme?content=154495 , maybe? Just wanted to ask, before I make a big blueprint. >>> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary >> > > -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
This brings up another annoyance that I have seen in my use of elementary. When I use Luna, I use it on a laptop. I like to perform most of my actions using the keyboard if I can. However, when I use the "expose all windows" shortcut [Super + w], I have to move my hand to the touchpad/mouse in order to select the window I want. I believe there should be an easy way (arrow keys, or the like) to select the window I want and then press enter/space/something to bring it to the front. I haven't discovered anything for it yet, unless you guys snuck it into a newer daily image. If everyone agrees, I can open a bug for it. Sorry for adding yet another thing to the list. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer 2012/10/7 Craig Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Luna GRUB theme
Check this link for discussion, etc. : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/luna-grub 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > Why not, as long as it doesn't break anything. Might be a cool item for > Luna+1. BURG is cooler but we don't have the infrastructure to test and > debug it. > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Eduard Gotwig wrote: >> >>> What about a super sexy grub theme :D ? >>> >>> Something like >>> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GS%2BBeefy+Miracle+GRUB+and+Plymouth+theme?content=154495 >>> , >>> maybe? >>> >>> >>> Just wanted to ask, before I make a big blueprint. >>> >> > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
But at least it should be available as a key configurable with dconf. Currently it's only possible to change "go to the first workspace" and "go to the last workspace", but not "go to the next/previous workspace" El 07/10/12 19:20, satch...@gmail.com escribió: While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the last one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot corners. On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff wrote: 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to Super+WASD keys which is a great idea IMHO. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
While being able to switch workspaces with one hand, I think WASD is non-obvious, especially when all four are commonly used as window management shortcuts in other OSes (the first three in Ubuntu and the last one in Windows; I think Super+S is also used in Windows for system something or the other). I think a launcher makes sense, as do hot corners. On 7 October 2012 22:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff wrote: > > 2012/10/7 Sergio Costas > >> Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to >> go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to >> a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. >> > > There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to Super+WASD > keys which is a great idea IMHO. > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
2012/10/7 Sergio Costas > Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to > go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to > a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. > There's a proposal to assign the actions of Super+Arrow keys to Super+WASD keys which is a great idea IMHO. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Dan- I think it would be great if you could attach a modifier key to hotcorners. So the user could choose to have a hotcorner activate only if he were holding CTRL, or whatever. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Fore wrote: Hey Dane, I think there's already a bug report for that :) You might want to check and then add yourself as affected. Craig, As mentioned before, I think there are a few solutions we should make available in addition to the keyboard shortcuts: a multitouch gesture (not yet implemented), a dock shortcut (also not implemented), and hotcorners (implemented). I personally use the hotcorners and I think they work really well. I don't think however that we should ship any hotcorners enabled by default. For people that don't understand what hot corners are, having one activate is incredible disorienting. But I think with the new Desktop plug, it's relatively easy to configure. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Dane Henson wrote: This brings up another annoyance that I have seen in my use of elementary. When I use Luna, I use it on a laptop. I like to perform most of my actions using the keyboard if I can. However, when I use the "expose all windows" shortcut [Super + w], I have to move my hand to the touchpad/mouse in order to select the window I want. I believe there should be an easy way (arrow keys, or the like) to select the window I want and then press enter/space/something to bring it to the front. I haven't discovered anything for it yet, unless you guys snuck it into a newer daily image. If everyone agrees, I can open a bug for it. Sorry for adding yet another thing to the list. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer 2012/10/7 Craig Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Even would be nice to be able to use Super+z to go left, and Super+x to go right, or something like that. I hate to have to move the mouse down to a hot corner, or having to drop the mouse. El 07/10/12 17:47, Craig escribió: Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Hey Dane, I think there's already a bug report for that :) You might want to check and then add yourself as affected. Craig, As mentioned before, I think there are a few solutions we should make available in addition to the keyboard shortcuts: a multitouch gesture (not yet implemented), a dock shortcut (also not implemented), and hotcorners (implemented). I personally use the hotcorners and I think they work really well. I don't think however that we should ship any hotcorners enabled by default. For people that don't understand what hot corners are, having one activate is incredible disorienting. But I think with the new Desktop plug, it's relatively easy to configure. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Dane Henson wrote: This brings up another annoyance that I have seen in my use of elementary. When I use Luna, I use it on a laptop. I like to perform most of my actions using the keyboard if I can. However, when I use the "expose all windows" shortcut [Super + w], I have to move my hand to the touchpad/mouse in order to select the window I want. I believe there should be an easy way (arrow keys, or the like) to select the window I want and then press enter/space/something to bring it to the front. I haven't discovered anything for it yet, unless you guys snuck it into a newer daily image. If everyone agrees, I can open a bug for it. Sorry for adding yet another thing to the list. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer 2012/10/7 Craig Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Dane +1. No. +1000 On Oct 7, 2012 10:00 AM, "Dane Henson" wrote: > This brings up another annoyance that I have seen in my use of elementary. > When I use Luna, I use it on a laptop. I like to perform most of my > actions using the keyboard if I can. However, when I use the "expose all > windows" shortcut [Super + w], I have to move my hand to the touchpad/mouse > in order to select the window I want. > > I believe there should be an easy way (arrow keys, or the like) to select > the window I want and then press enter/space/something to bring it to the > front. I haven't discovered anything for it yet, unless you guys snuck it > into a newer daily image. > > If everyone agrees, I can open a bug for it. Sorry for adding yet another > thing to the list. > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff < > ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > > For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by > default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. > > 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer >> >> 2012/10/7 Craig >> >>> Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop >>> machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real >>> irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the >>> mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the >>> keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), >>> activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to >>> their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as >>> most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, >>> on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. >>> >>> Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by >>> default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change >>> workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard >>> which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose >>> coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're >>> like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real >>> annoyance. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary >> > > > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
This brings up another annoyance that I have seen in my use of elementary. When I use Luna, I use it on a laptop. I like to perform most of my actions using the keyboard if I can. However, when I use the "expose all windows" shortcut [Super + w], I have to move my hand to the touchpad/mouse in order to select the window I want. I believe there should be an easy way (arrow keys, or the like) to select the window I want and then press enter/space/something to bring it to the front. I haven't discovered anything for it yet, unless you guys snuck it into a newer daily image. If everyone agrees, I can open a bug for it. Sorry for adding yet another thing to the list. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer 2012/10/7 Craig Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
For power users there's EasyStroke, but I doubt we'll ship that by default. Multitouch should also help on some machines. 2012/10/7 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer > > 2012/10/7 Craig > >> Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop >> machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real >> irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the >> mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the >> keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), >> activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to >> their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as >> most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, >> on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. >> >> Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by >> default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change >> workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard >> which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose >> coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're >> like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real >> annoyance. >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/94 is the answer 2012/10/7 Craig > Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine > (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when > trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to > take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards > don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace > switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue > working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have > semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical > desktop, this is a real irritation. > > Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by > default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change > workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard > which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose > coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're > like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real > annoyance. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Hot corners is the solution, but it's part of a bigger question of whether Luna is coming with any hot corners enabled by default. On 7 October 2012 21:17, Craig wrote: > Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine > (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when > trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to > take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards > don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace > switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue > working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have > semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical > desktop, this is a real irritation. > > Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by > default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change > workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard > which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose > coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're > like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real > annoyance. > > Thoughts? > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Mouse-based Workspace Switching
Having just switched from Ubuntu 10.10 to Elementary on my desktop machine (which I haven't used in over a year), I've noticed a real irritation when trying to switch workspaces while one hand is on the mouse--the user has to take a hand off the mouse, put both hands on the keyboard (many keyboards don't have a super key near the arrow keys), activate the workspace switching motion, and then return their hand to their mouse to continue working. This isn't as big a problem on a laptop as most laptops have semi-decent trackpads right below the keyboard; however, on a typical desktop, this is a real irritation. Under older versions of Ubuntu (the ones that used the compiz cube by default) I liked being able to hold ctrl+alt and then click/drag to change workspaces; however, that still requires moving one hand to the keyboard which still feels tedious if your hand isn't there already. I propose coming up with a solution. It may not seem like a big deal, but if you're like me (having one application open per workspace) this can be a real annoyance. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] elementary Luna GRUB theme
Why not, as long as it doesn't break anything. Might be a cool item for Luna+1. BURG is cooler but we don't have the infrastructure to test and debug it. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Eduard Gotwig wrote: > >> What about a super sexy grub theme :D ? >> >> Something like >> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/GS%2BBeefy+Miracle+GRUB+and+Plymouth+theme?content=154495 >> , >> maybe? >> >> >> Just wanted to ask, before I make a big blueprint. >> > -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
