Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
Why not just make a supplemental api? So you do website.com/followthru/couchbaseshit And website.com/customapishit/ Then you are essentially having both a crunch base a pi and then a custom a pi. It makes no sense to do double the work when someones already done it. Plus scalability is important if your going to have an app store. At the moment appcenter has zero chance of being a real appstore. Couchbase would be a step in the right direction in changing that. On Mar 25, 2013 5:34 PM, "Goncalo Margalho" wrote: > No what i mean is to do in this way to build a prototype, to see if it > works properly, because some people are saying that if we do it online will > be very slow. SO we can build a prototype, making the less effort possible > (this is why i said to use those APIs to access the DB) and if it works and > everyone agrees on how it is then we can work and make real APIs, written > in the language that we prefer, around it. > > I think this software will be the center of everything, so we have to make > it very good, fast, easy and full of features. > > So what do you think on doing it in this way? > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Joshua Strobl > wrote: > >> A self-build API, in my opinion, allows for more flexibility and >> integration with third-party services (such as the Ubuntu Reviews API) than >> a generated API from Couchbase. It may not necessarily be easier to >> maintain, however we'll be able to add / remove features at our own speed >> and not rely on potential breaking changes by Couchbase. >> >> One could say that we could just stick with a particular version of >> Couchbase to ensure things don't break, but that opens up the doors for >> future security exploits and vulnerabilities. >> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Goncalo Margalho >> wrote: >> >> Why should we "waste" time on building an API for it if we could just >> build the database with couchbase (which is very scalable as well) and just >> use those ones, they are there, we just need to prepare the queries (if >> needed) I could help setting up everything. >> >> >> http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html >> here >> you can see an example, the APIs are generated automatically. I can set up >> the infrastracture, define the DB with someone and just make some tests :) >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Joshua Strobl >> wrote: >> >>> I do want to say, Goncalo, since I forgot to mention it in my prior >>> email, that if you could work on setting up and maintaining the >>> infrastructure, I can handle the API. >>> >>> You'd have my love...or a cookie. Whatever you prefer. A cookie sounds >>> better. >>> >>> - Joshua Strobl >>> >> >> > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UI Freeze
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1157786 Just rolled back to 3.2.0-38. let's see how it goes. ttosttos -- On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Donnie McNeal wrote: > Hi all, It's my first post to the board. I've been silently following > along for a couple of months now. Just wanted to say I love what you guys > are doing with elementary. > > In regards to the topic on head - I noticed the same issue and rolled back > the kernel update to a previous kernel and haven't had the problem. > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Cassidy James > wrote: > >> I've noticed this, along with a few other people on Google+. It seems to >> be an issue with the latest kernel update and Intel graphics. :-/ >> On Mar 25, 2013 7:31 PM, "ttosttos Sa" wrote: >> >>> Last few weeks, I've been experienced a catastrophic UI freeze. >>> Basically, entire UI becomes non-responsive (no response to mouse events, >>> no response to hotkeys). Only responsive desktop element is the pointer, >>> which still moves. Only way to recover is a reboot. It happens a couple >>> of times a week. So far, it seems to be triggered when clicking on a >>> launcher on Plank. Let me know if you have some suggestions on what info >>> to capture and how to narrow down, so I can file a bug. >>> Cheers. >>> >>> ttosttos >>> -- >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UI Freeze
Hi all, It's my first post to the board. I've been silently following along for a couple of months now. Just wanted to say I love what you guys are doing with elementary. In regards to the topic on head - I noticed the same issue and rolled back the kernel update to a previous kernel and haven't had the problem. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Cassidy James wrote: > I've noticed this, along with a few other people on Google+. It seems to > be an issue with the latest kernel update and Intel graphics. :-/ > On Mar 25, 2013 7:31 PM, "ttosttos Sa" wrote: > >> Last few weeks, I've been experienced a catastrophic UI freeze. >> Basically, entire UI becomes non-responsive (no response to mouse events, >> no response to hotkeys). Only responsive desktop element is the pointer, >> which still moves. Only way to recover is a reboot. It happens a couple >> of times a week. So far, it seems to be triggered when clicking on a >> launcher on Plank. Let me know if you have some suggestions on what info >> to capture and how to narrow down, so I can file a bug. >> Cheers. >> >> ttosttos >> -- >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
An AppCenter inherits the need to be "online", in a sense that it requires network connection to fetch package information and install packages. In terms of making it online like Google Play or PlayDeb, that is an idea I've pondered on myself. In terms of the loading of an application data, I've already begun work on that over at https://bugs.launchpad.net/appcenter/+bug/1091406 The idea is to use a PHP-based API that fetches data from a database (it could be MariaDB / MySQL, Cassandra, etc) and returns it in a JSON formatted string. Obviously MySQL and MariaDB aren't all that scalable and I'd prefer whatever we use be ready to be scaled already. In terms of implementing BOTH a web-based front-end and the AppCenter, that is a huge division in resources that I don't think should be undertaken. Either it should be a web-based front-end or not. Not only would you need to develop both but upkeep both and it makes no sense to have both when most people would use the native application anyways. It is my opinion that since native application development is already occurring for the AppCenter, we stay on course with that. "The AppCenter will need just to call the APIs that are already provided so we don't have to do any extra effort implementing APIs." I'll be setting up either a repo on GitHub (I prefer git to be honest) or a bzr repo on LaunchPad for an API and push some code out (hopefully) by Friday. Whether it'll be officially supported / adopted by Elementary OS or not, I don't know, I'll honestly be working on it regardless since I'll be using the API internally as well (doing deployment at my startup). - Joshua Strobl On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Goncalo Margalho wrote: Hi all, first of all I want to congratulate Mefrio (which I don't know his real name) for the good work on the AppCenter. From my point of view the AppCenter should be completely online, like all the others appstore, like Play from google, (they have even the webversion which is fast so I don't see why it should be fast in an app). So what we can do it's make it completely online, so you will load everything from a server and if you don't have connection you can't see anything. Or an other alternative it's to keep it like now and in the single view (the one of the app that you want to install) load the reviews, images etc in background. This could be good but You still have to synchronize with new apps. and what about the apps that you need to pay? those ones may not be on the repositories so you don't see them. Another solution could be that on the load of the AppCenter you download those app and update the local dabase. Which one is the best solution for you? I was thinking on an implementation of the AppCenter Server with a Couchbase server. I don't know if anyone used it before but it's a NoSQL DB born from the fusion between CouchDB and Memcached. The db stores the data in JSON, which is good because it has already an API by default for any "table"/"view" that you create ( http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html ) and the scaling is just amazing, you just add more servers and does everything on its own, just incredible to see. I could implement it (even in my server, since I know that the server at the moment is not very powerful) and do a test, we could easily implement a web interface for it with the webteam and we could work with mefrio to implement it in the appcenter in a way that we all agree. The AppCenter will need just to call the APIs that are already provided so we don't have to do any extra effort implementing APIs. I hope to get some feedback on this. Goncalo "DevAlien" Margalho -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
No what i mean is to do in this way to build a prototype, to see if it works properly, because some people are saying that if we do it online will be very slow. SO we can build a prototype, making the less effort possible (this is why i said to use those APIs to access the DB) and if it works and everyone agrees on how it is then we can work and make real APIs, written in the language that we prefer, around it. I think this software will be the center of everything, so we have to make it very good, fast, easy and full of features. So what do you think on doing it in this way? On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Joshua Strobl wrote: > A self-build API, in my opinion, allows for more flexibility and > integration with third-party services (such as the Ubuntu Reviews API) than > a generated API from Couchbase. It may not necessarily be easier to > maintain, however we'll be able to add / remove features at our own speed > and not rely on potential breaking changes by Couchbase. > > One could say that we could just stick with a particular version of > Couchbase to ensure things don't break, but that opens up the doors for > future security exploits and vulnerabilities. > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Goncalo Margalho wrote: > > Why should we "waste" time on building an API for it if we could just > build the database with couchbase (which is very scalable as well) and just > use those ones, they are there, we just need to prepare the queries (if > needed) I could help setting up everything. > > > http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html > here > you can see an example, the APIs are generated automatically. I can set up > the infrastracture, define the DB with someone and just make some tests :) > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Joshua Strobl > wrote: > >> I do want to say, Goncalo, since I forgot to mention it in my prior >> email, that if you could work on setting up and maintaining the >> infrastructure, I can handle the API. >> >> You'd have my love...or a cookie. Whatever you prefer. A cookie sounds >> better. >> >> - Joshua Strobl >> > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UI Freeze
I've noticed this, along with a few other people on Google+. It seems to be an issue with the latest kernel update and Intel graphics. :-/ On Mar 25, 2013 7:31 PM, "ttosttos Sa" wrote: > Last few weeks, I've been experienced a catastrophic UI freeze. > Basically, entire UI becomes non-responsive (no response to mouse events, > no response to hotkeys). Only responsive desktop element is the pointer, > which still moves. Only way to recover is a reboot. It happens a couple > of times a week. So far, it seems to be triggered when clicking on a > launcher on Plank. Let me know if you have some suggestions on what info > to capture and how to narrow down, so I can file a bug. > Cheers. > > ttosttos > -- > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] UI Freeze
I've had the same issue however it seemed to be a result of the launcher pointing to a non-existent or invalid executable file. Once I pointed the .desktop file to the proper executable things went back to normal. Is the issue occurring on all of the launchers or a particular one? On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:31 PM, ttosttos Sa wrote: Last few weeks, I've been experienced a catastrophic UI freeze. Basically, entire UI becomes non-responsive (no response to mouse events, no response to hotkeys). Only responsive desktop element is the pointer, which still moves. Only way to recover is a reboot. It happens a couple of times a week. So far, it seems to be triggered when clicking on a launcher on Plank. Let me know if you have some suggestions on what info to capture and how to narrow down, so I can file a bug. Cheers. ttosttos -- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] UI Freeze
Last few weeks, I've been experienced a catastrophic UI freeze. Basically, entire UI becomes non-responsive (no response to mouse events, no response to hotkeys). Only responsive desktop element is the pointer, which still moves. Only way to recover is a reboot. It happens a couple of times a week. So far, it seems to be triggered when clicking on a launcher on Plank. Let me know if you have some suggestions on what info to capture and how to narrow down, so I can file a bug. Cheers. ttosttos -- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
A self-build API, in my opinion, allows for more flexibility and integration with third-party services (such as the Ubuntu Reviews API) than a generated API from Couchbase. It may not necessarily be easier to maintain, however we'll be able to add / remove features at our own speed and not rely on potential breaking changes by Couchbase. One could say that we could just stick with a particular version of Couchbase to ensure things don't break, but that opens up the doors for future security exploits and vulnerabilities. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Goncalo Margalho wrote: Why should we "waste" time on building an API for it if we could just build the database with couchbase (which is very scalable as well) and just use those ones, they are there, we just need to prepare the queries (if needed) I could help setting up everything. http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html here you can see an example, the APIs are generated automatically. I can set up the infrastracture, define the DB with someone and just make some tests :) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Joshua Strobl wrote: I do want to say, Goncalo, since I forgot to mention it in my prior email, that if you could work on setting up and maintaining the infrastructure, I can handle the API. You'd have my love...or a cookie. Whatever you prefer. A cookie sounds better. - Joshua Strobl -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
Why should we "waste" time on building an API for it if we could just build the database with couchbase (which is very scalable as well) and just use those ones, they are there, we just need to prepare the queries (if needed) I could help setting up everything. http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html here you can see an example, the APIs are generated automatically. I can set up the infrastracture, define the DB with someone and just make some tests :) On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Joshua Strobl wrote: > I do want to say, Goncalo, since I forgot to mention it in my prior email, > that if you could work on setting up and maintaining the infrastructure, I > can handle the API. > > You'd have my love...or a cookie. Whatever you prefer. A cookie sounds > better. > > - Joshua Strobl > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
I do want to say, Goncalo, since I forgot to mention it in my prior email, that if you could work on setting up and maintaining the infrastructure, I can handle the API. You'd have my love...or a cookie. Whatever you prefer. A cookie sounds better. - Joshua Strobl -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] The future of appcenter
Hi all, first of all I want to congratulate Mefrio (which I don't know his real name) for the good work on the AppCenter. >From my point of view the AppCenter should be completely online, like all the others appstore, like Play from google, (they have even the webversion which is fast so I don't see why it should be fast in an app). So what we can do it's make it completely online, so you will load everything from a server and if you don't have connection you can't see anything. Or an other alternative it's to keep it like now and in the single view (the one of the app that you want to install) load the reviews, images etc in background. This could be good but You still have to synchronize with new apps. and what about the apps that you need to pay? those ones may not be on the repositories so you don't see them. Another solution could be that on the load of the AppCenter you download those app and update the local dabase. Which one is the best solution for you? I was thinking on an implementation of the AppCenter Server with a Couchbase server. I don't know if anyone used it before but it's a NoSQL DB born from the fusion between CouchDB and Memcached. The db stores the data in JSON, which is good because it has already an API by default for any "table"/"view" that you create ( http://www.couchbase.com/docs/couchbase-manual-2.0/couchbase-views-querying-rest-api.html ) and the scaling is just amazing, you just add more servers and does everything on its own, just incredible to see. I could implement it (even in my server, since I know that the server at the moment is not very powerful) and do a test, we could easily implement a web interface for it with the webteam and we could work with mefrio to implement it in the appcenter in a way that we all agree. The AppCenter will need just to call the APIs that are already provided so we don't have to do any extra effort implementing APIs. I hope to get some feedback on this. Goncalo "DevAlien" Margalho -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
Hey everyone, Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms of making our desktop complete and functional. I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? And if so, how much? Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
Correction: it looks like they opted for the fixed funding model, so yeah, they only get the money if they reach the goal. On Mar 25, 2013 3:21 PM, "Cassidy James" wrote: > They get the money no matter what (unlike Kickstarter). The difference is > the fee that IndieGoGo takes: 4% of the donations if the goal is reached, > 9% if it's not. > > Source: http://www.indiegogo.com/indiegogo-faq > On Mar 25, 2013 3:18 PM, "Daniel Foré" wrote: > >> As far as I know, they only get the money if they make $100k >> >> Yea I was also thinking somewhere in the realm of $100 >> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, David Gomes wrote: >> >>> 100,000$ is a lot of spaghetti! I didn't even know we (elementary) had >>> money, but if so, I don't see why we shouldn't donate something like >>> 50-100$. >>> >>> I don't know indiegogo works, but do they also get the money if they >>> don't make 100,000$? I'm afraid that they won't get 100,000$, even though >>> I'd like that very much. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: >>> Hey everyone, Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms of making our desktop complete and functional. I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? And if so, how much? Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best Regards, >> >> Daniel Foré >> >> elementaryos.org >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
Hey guys, We're doing an all-or-nothing campaign, like Kickstarter. IndieGoGo does offer a flexible funding model, but as you pointed out, they eat a larger chunk if you don't make the goal. See http://support.indiegogo.com/entries/20566503-Fixed-vs-Flexible-Funding I can answer any other questions as well! -- Jim On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Cassidy James wrote: They get the money no matter what (unlike Kickstarter). The difference is the fee that IndieGoGo takes: 4% of the donations if the goal is reached, 9% if it's not. Source: http://www.indiegogo.com/indiegogo-faq On Mar 25, 2013 3:18 PM, "Daniel Foré" wrote: As far as I know, they only get the money if they make $100k Yea I was also thinking somewhere in the realm of $100 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, David Gomes wrote: 100,000$ is a lot of spaghetti! I didn't even know we (elementary) had money, but if so, I don't see why we shouldn't donate something like 50-100$. I don't know indiegogo works, but do they also get the money if they don't make 100,000$? I'm afraid that they won't get 100,000$, even though I'd like that very much. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: Hey everyone, Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms of making our desktop complete and functional. I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? And if so, how much? Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
They get the money no matter what (unlike Kickstarter). The difference is the fee that IndieGoGo takes: 4% of the donations if the goal is reached, 9% if it's not. Source: http://www.indiegogo.com/indiegogo-faq On Mar 25, 2013 3:18 PM, "Daniel Foré" wrote: > As far as I know, they only get the money if they make $100k > > Yea I was also thinking somewhere in the realm of $100 > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, David Gomes wrote: > >> 100,000$ is a lot of spaghetti! I didn't even know we (elementary) had >> money, but if so, I don't see why we shouldn't donate something like >> 50-100$. >> >> I don't know indiegogo works, but do they also get the money if they >> don't make 100,000$? I'm afraid that they won't get 100,000$, even though >> I'd like that very much. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: >> >>> Hey everyone, >>> >>> Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all >>> know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms >>> of making our desktop complete and functional. >>> >>> I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's >>> campaign? And if so, how much? >>> >>> Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: >>> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client >>> >>> Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Daniel Foré >>> >>> elementaryos.org >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Best Regards, > > Daniel Foré > > elementaryos.org > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
Hey Dan, I was wondering the same thing. I definitely think we should encourage people to donate to Yorba, but I'm not sure how much we can commit financially. >From a practicality perspective, it would be cool to donate at least the $25 to get elementary mentioned within Geary. ;) Regards, Cassidy James On Mar 25, 2013 3:12 PM, "Daniel Foré" wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all > know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms > of making our desktop complete and functional. > > I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? > And if so, how much? > > Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client > > Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) > > Best Regards, > > Daniel Foré > > elementaryos.org > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
As far as I know, they only get the money if they make $100k Yea I was also thinking somewhere in the realm of $100 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 1:15 PM, David Gomes wrote: > 100,000$ is a lot of spaghetti! I didn't even know we (elementary) had > money, but if so, I don't see why we shouldn't donate something like > 50-100$. > > I don't know indiegogo works, but do they also get the money if they don't > make 100,000$? I'm afraid that they won't get 100,000$, even though I'd > like that very much. > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > >> Hey everyone, >> >> Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all >> know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms >> of making our desktop complete and functional. >> >> I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? >> And if so, how much? >> >> Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client >> >> Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Daniel Foré >> >> elementaryos.org >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Donate to Yorba
100,000$ is a lot of spaghetti! I didn't even know we (elementary) had money, but if so, I don't see why we shouldn't donate something like 50-100$. I don't know indiegogo works, but do they also get the money if they don't make 100,000$? I'm afraid that they won't get 100,000$, even though I'd like that very much. On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Yorba just launched their crowdfunding campaign on IndieGoGo. As you all > know, we ship two of their apps default, so we definitely owe them in terms > of making our desktop complete and functional. > > I'm wondering if we shouldn't donate (as elementary) to Yorba's campaign? > And if so, how much? > > Here's the link to their IndieGoGo page: > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/geary-a-beautiful-modern-open-source-email-client > > Please share it and feel free to donate on your own as well :) > > Best Regards, > > Daniel Foré > > elementaryos.org > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
