Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
Maybe something like the software that mentors.debian.net uses would work? They use Debexpo (http://wiki.debian.org/Debexpo), and it looks like it can be deployed on anything; I'm guessing that includes whatever is being used to host the elementary website. The whole project is meant to help people collaborate on packaging and such, so maybe once someone's package gets "approved", it can be manually pushed to the elementary third-party PPA by an elementary team member. Any thoughts? Sincerely, kroq-gar78 On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > I agree with Mario that we need to solve this ASAP. However I also agree > with Cody that we can't be responsible for packaging. We need to figure out > an app submission process that puts the responsibility on these 3rd parties > > Best Regards, > Daniel Foré > > El abr 6, 2013, a las 6:20 a.m., Mario Guerriero > escribió: > > We should only create a ppa and put some rules for it. Every 3rd party > developer who wants his app in this ppa should email one of us and then we > will review the app quality and approve/disapprove its adding. That's all. > > Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 3:18 ,Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff < > ser...@elementaryos.org> ha scritto: > > I've foreseen it and registered a blueprint about it a long time ago: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/non-official-ppas > Sadly, all my attempts to implement it were futile. Good luck with that. > > > 2013/4/6 Cody Garver > >> I wrote almost every third party's debian packaging so that would be me >> maintaining that. I'm up for it, it's just possible it could get out of >> control. >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: >> >>> Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his >>> apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. >>> They must have care of them own stuffs. >>> >>> Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha >>> scritto: >>> >>> We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that >>> we already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: >>> Hi, 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to sponsor in AppCenter. Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers to build an elementary app. Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cody Garver >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cody Garver >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff > OS architect @ elementary > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
I agree with Mario that we need to solve this ASAP. However I also agree with Cody that we can't be responsible for packaging. We need to figure out an app submission process that puts the responsibility on these 3rd parties Best Regards, Daniel Foré El abr 6, 2013, a las 6:20 a.m., Mario Guerriero escribió: > We should only create a ppa and put some rules for it. Every 3rd party > developer who wants his app in this ppa should email one of us and then we > will review the app quality and approve/disapprove its adding. That's all. > > Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 3:18 ,Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff > ha scritto: >> I've foreseen it and registered a blueprint about it a long time ago: >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/non-official-ppas >> Sadly, all my attempts to implement it were futile. Good luck with that. >> >> >> 2013/4/6 Cody Garver >>> I wrote almost every third party's debian packaging so that would be me >>> maintaining that. I'm up for it, it's just possible it could get out of >>> control. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. They must have care of them own stuffs. Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha scritto: > We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we > already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like >> mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome >> applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. >> >> My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os >> launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I >> would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to >> sponsor in AppCenter. >> >> Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers >> to build an elementary app. >> >> Best regards, >> Mario >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > -- > Cody Garver >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cody Garver >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> >> >> -- >> Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >> OS architect @ elementary > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Testing Round 2
Alright guys, I think it would be a good start to select an application and try to start writing tests with it. It seems like GLib's testing environment should be satisfactory (see this: http://blog.remysaissy.com/2012/11/setting-up-unit-tests-in-vala-project.html); however, Vala's development environment is too complicated for me (a Vala noob) to get a project set up for tests. If someone would be willing to volunteer to get GLib's testing set up for Noise (or something else if they so desire) including a quick example test (so those of us with testing--but not Vala--experience can have a starting point), I would be willing to start writing tests and working with the project's primary developer(s) to get them started toward Test Driven Development (other developers with TDD experience also expressed interest). This project could serve as a test to see how well TDD can work for elementary, and, if the experiment is deemed successful, it could serve as a model for other projects as well. The above is the tl;dr version. --- My "vision" for this experiment is that someone can set up Noise (or some other project) for testing, and then I (and/or other volunteers) can start writing a few tests for it and sort of coach the developers in TDD for the purpose of getting the developers to a self-sufficient state before potentially moving onto another project and doing the same. Thoughts? -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
We should only create a ppa and put some rules for it. Every 3rd party developer who wants his app in this ppa should email one of us and then we will review the app quality and approve/disapprove its adding. That's all. Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 3:18 ,Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ha scritto: I've foreseen it and registered a blueprint about it a long time ago: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/non-official-ppas Sadly, all my attempts to implement it were futile. Good luck with that. 2013/4/6 Cody Garver I wrote almost every third party's debian packaging so that would be me maintaining that. I'm up for it, it's just possible it could get out of control. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. They must have care of them own stuffs. Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha scritto: We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: Hi, 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to sponsor in AppCenter. Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers to build an elementary app. Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
I've foreseen it and registered a blueprint about it a long time ago: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/non-official-ppas Sadly, all my attempts to implement it were futile. Good luck with that. 2013/4/6 Cody Garver > I wrote almost every third party's debian packaging so that would be me > maintaining that. I'm up for it, it's just possible it could get out of > control. > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > >> Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his >> apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. >> They must have care of them own stuffs. >> >> Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha >> scritto: >> >> We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we >> already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like >>> mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome >>> applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. >>> >>> My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os >>> launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I >>> would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to >>> sponsor in AppCenter. >>> >>> Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers >>> to build an elementary app. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Mario >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cody Garver >> >> > > > -- > Cody Garver > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
I wrote almost every third party's debian packaging so that would be me maintaining that. I'm up for it, it's just possible it could get out of control. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his > apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. > They must have care of them own stuffs. > > Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha > scritto: > > We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we > already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like >> mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome >> applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. >> >> My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os >> launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I >> would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to >> sponsor in AppCenter. >> >> Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers >> to build an elementary app. >> >> Best regards, >> Mario >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > Cody Garver > > -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
Cody I mean that every third party developer should be able to put his apps in one of our ppa just asking us. We don't have to maintain anything. They must have care of them own stuffs. Il sab, apr 6, 2013 at 2:57 ,Cody Garver ha scritto: We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: Hi, 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to sponsor in AppCenter. Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers to build an elementary app. Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
We need to figure out someway to showcase them, but my opinion is that we already have too much to maintain without taking on third parties. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > Hi, > > 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like mushrooms > in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome applications > like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. > > My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os launchpad > team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I would be able > to have a better platform where get elementary apps to sponsor in AppCenter. > > Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers to > build an elementary app. > > Best regards, > Mario > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- Cody Garver -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] 3rd party app ppa
Hi, 3rd party apps which follow elementary style are popping up like mushrooms in the last period. The community developed a lot of awesome applications like Birdie, Foto, Agenda and many others. My idea is to put all of them in one ppa, owned by elementary-os launchpad team, in order to have them in only one place. In this way I would be able to have a better platform where get elementary apps to sponsor in AppCenter. Moreover a bigger range of users and testers would encourage developers to build an elementary app. Best regards, Mario -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
