Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Just look at all the progress we made!
+999 to that, Shnatsel. And thank you to for your hard work... Luna seriously would not have been possible without you :) I haven't checked the new sources yet, but we were the top post on Hacker News for most of the night: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Also I want to congratulate everybody who every contributed, but it's almost 7AM and I haven't slept today at all, so I can't generate anything more sophisticated than THANK YOU GUYS YOU ROCK!! Also, somebody please make a list of news coverage and reviews we get! I'd really want to read it for one, even if in retrospect. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Just look at all the progress we made!
*derp, accidentally hit the send button: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6193148 Also, #elementaryOS is currently the #4 trending topic globally on all of Google+! On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Avi Romanoff a...@elementaryos.org wrote: +999 to that, Shnatsel. And thank you to for your hard work... Luna seriously would not have been possible without you :) I haven't checked the new sources yet, but we were the top post on Hacker News for most of the night: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Also I want to congratulate everybody who every contributed, but it's almost 7AM and I haven't slept today at all, so I can't generate anything more sophisticated than THANK YOU GUYS YOU ROCK!! Also, somebody please make a list of news coverage and reviews we get! I'd really want to read it for one, even if in retrospect. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] Fwd: RFC: gesture management model
Forwarding this into the dev community. I haven't read through this (nor am I in a position to contribute code to elementary for the next several months), but this seems to be something we should definitely look into for the L+1 cycle. -- Forwarded message -- From: Carlos Garnacho carl...@gnome.org Date: Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:18 PM Subject: RFC: gesture management model To: gtk-devel-list gtk-devel-l...@gnome.org Hey, On the gestures GTK+ branch there is a collection of event controllers that interpret events in order to trigger actions. This branch never really got into how do gestures get handled throughout a hierarchy, as Matthias pointed out on preliminary review. So I've been thinking in how gesture management happen as a toolkit feature, and I'm now looking into putting this into practice, but would be great to get comments soon in the loop. It is worth mentioning that the gestures branch already goes in the proposed direction, even though it currently focuses on plain event handling currently. In the blurb below I talk much about touch sequences, but controllers could pretty much manage any kind of event, so this pretty much applies to any user interaction. Event Controllers - The gestures branch defines basic event handling, in order to have these controllers work throughout a widget hierarchy, I've tried to define further how should these behave: * These handle GdkEvents and GtkWidget::grab-notify. * Each subclass tries to recognize a concrete action. * The number of touch sequences a controller handles doesn't change * A touch sequence can be declined at any point, for external and internal reasons. * Controllers must acknowledge/decline a touch sequence ASAP, usually based on timeouts or thresholds. * Controllers keep track of touch sequences during all their lifetime, regardless of the point above. This acts as an implicit grab on a gesture, making any later touch sequence ineffective till the/a monitored one disappears. Note that this pursue for simplicity in event handling means that multiple controllers might be interested in the same events, even within the same widget. With that defined behavior, a basic set of gestures could look like: * Tap/Click: For simple clicks. * Long press: For long, mostly stationary presses. * Drag: Handles drags, reports dx/dy from initial coordinates. * Swipe: Reports direction/velocity when a sequence finishes. * Zoom/Pinch: Handles 2 touch sequences, reports distance changes * Rotate: Handles 2 touch sequences, reports angle changes If we go for this model where separate touch sequences can be accepted or declined at different controllers, and controllers report early enough whether the handled action is being triggered, the possible overall states a controller goes through would be: Idle Capturing Idle Idle Capturing Declined Idle Idle [ Capturing Acknowledged ]+ Idle Handling through the hierarchy -- By the way event controllers make use of events, I think it is best for those to take events from the GtkWidget::captured-event handler, so events are effectively handled from the topmost to the deepmost widget, and the implicit grab ensures the widget stack receiving events from a touch sequence is static (until active grabs come at least, but all sequences should be declined in that case anyway). Independently to the way events are delivered, a same event could be fed on multiple event controllers throughout the implicit grab widget stack, and any of those can enter the Acknowledged state anytime. However, what Acknowledged on a controller means is widget dependent, as is also how multiple controllers work together within the same widget. So any model to reclaim users actions for a single purpose must happen at the widget level. On such model, there should be at least a way to make a widget ACK on a touch sequence, and a signal to have other widgets in the implicit grab widget stack decline that same sequence. This way, a widget in the stack may claim control while the others back out. So essentially: void (* ownership_claimed) (GtkWidget *widget, GdkEvent *event); ... void gtk_widget_claim_ownership (GtkWidget *widget, GdkEvent *event); From the usecases below, it is hard to find a fully comprehensive high-level behavior, specially as for how do intra-widget controllers get to cooperate together, I think a good default for the most common cases would be: * A widget can be set 0..n controllers (Usually 1 or 2 most hopefully) * All controllers get fed all events by default * When a gesture enters in Acknowledged state, all touch sequences handled there are claimed for the widget. * A touch sequence being claimed elsewhere makes all
[Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
This is how awesome things happen, being free to have some fun :) 2013/8/11 Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
I've gotten so used to the feature freeze adding new stuff seems si weird... When will this big contributor meeting be held approximately? A week? On Aug 11, 2013 7:25 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
Should probably wait for shnatsel to come back from vacation, and check with anyone relevant to see when they are free. On Aug 11, 2013 6:40 PM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.com wrote: I've gotten so used to the feature freeze adding new stuff seems si weird... When will this big contributor meeting be held approximately? A week? On Aug 11, 2013 7:25 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
Good question! We'll have to figure that our as well. If I remember correctly, there's some kind of online tool where everyone can enter their availability and we can find out when we're all free at the same time. Anyone have a link to that? — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:40 AM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.com wrote: I've gotten so used to the feature freeze adding new stuff seems si weird... When will this big contributor meeting be held approximately? A week? On Aug 11, 2013 7:25 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] A couple of testers running 12.04
Hi Munchor, I tested both branches and commented in the merge proposals. If you need to contact me about this, please mail me personally, as I won't be notified of new comments in these reviews. Cheers 2013/8/10, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org: I run Ubuntu 13.04 and Noise doesn't compile on it yet so I'll need somebody to test the following two branches on 12.04 and comment on them saying if they work as expected or not: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcus-lundgren/noise/fix-1182740/+merge/176217 That one just test if Ctrl+N effectively changes the view. https://code.launchpad.net/~marcus-lundgren/noise/compilation_warnings_and_clean_up/+merge/176069 That one is just a compile test, in other words, test if it compiles. You should reply to me here and also write on Launchpad if possible, thank you very much for your attention! Best regards, David Munchor Gomes -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
