Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Pepijn de Vos
I'll repeat this as I'm also guilty of not reply-all'ing (reply-to 
header anyone?)


It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a 
mentor available. See Mozilla for an example: 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction


I looked at the issue tracker for something I could help with, but 
there is just so much.


Maybe I'll start fixing this minor annoyance I found 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/gala/+bug/1278131


Pepijn

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.com 
wrote:

This is a good point, and it is a universal challenge (in both open
source and proprietary projects). It needs effort.

But there must be correlation between successful projects and
well-documented ones: If actively try to lower the barrier one needs
to overcome to start working with elementary (both on the core
projects and at the application layer, but we are mostly talking about
the first) we will get more people contributing, and contributions of
better (or aligned) quality.

Nikos

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Daniel Foré 
dan...@elementaryos.org wrote:
 The bigger problem than docs being boring is that the chance you're 
a
 writer, understand what you're writing, and also understand how to 
teach is

 extremely low.

 The google doc we started that one time was a complete piece of 
crap.
 Technical writing isn't just boring, it's incredibly difficult to 
do right

 Cheers,

 Daniel Foré
 elementaryos.org


 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
 ser...@elementaryos.org wrote:


 We're missing a ton of other docs in the website too, but you know 
how it
 goes - writing docs is boring and everybody has better things 
to do.






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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
2014-02-20 17:18 GMT+04:00 Pepijn de Vos pepijnde...@gmail.com:

It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a mentor
 available. See Mozilla for an example:
 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction


Actually, we at least used to have something similar - the easy bugs and
the ones good for starters were labeled bitesize. It seems we still have
42 such bugs open, see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementary/+bugs?field.tag=bitesize

If this is not documented in the get involved page, that should be fixed
as well. Also IMHO we should link to get involved from the developer
guide and note that working on existing apps is preferable over making yet
more of them.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Isis Beta1

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
2014-02-02 7:41 GMT+04:00 Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com:

 It looks like at the Isis meeting, you guys decided against Tent
 integration (at least for the time being). Should that 
 blueprinthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+spec/tent-integrationnot
  be untargeted for beta1 (and Isis completely)?


I've untargeted the blueprint from Isis, this is not a realistic goal for
it.

That said, I don't understand how is Tent support would be different from
existing syncshare services like Dropbox or Ubuntu One, and how would
the user experience differ from those.

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[Elementary-dev-community] What's up with Pantheon Notify?

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff
Hey guys,

I've noticed we still use Ubuntu's notify-osd in Isis builds. What happened
to pantheon-notify? It was my favorite change scheduled for Isis, because
notify-osd is pretty broken UX-wise.

Last time I checked the standalone implementation was abandoned and the
code integrated in Gala to avoid the window management mess that created.
There was also unofficial notification log feature sprinkled on top,
instead of which dock badges will be used. That still lives in a separate
branch somewhere, as far as I can tell.

Was there any progress on this recently? Is pantheon-notify still a goal
for Isis?
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] What's up with Pantheon Notify?

2014-02-20 Thread Cody Garver
Notifications were to be handled by gala itself, deprecating
pantheon-notify (and its mem leak) but tom95 is busy IRL

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Sergey \Shnatsel\ Davidoff
ser...@elementaryos.org wrote:

 Hey guys,

 I've noticed we still use Ubuntu's notify-osd in Isis builds. What happened 
 to pantheon-notify? It was my favorite change scheduled for Isis, because 
 notify-osd is pretty broken UX-wise.

 Last time I checked the standalone implementation was abandoned and the code 
 integrated in Gala to avoid the window management mess that created. There 
 was also unofficial notification log feature sprinkled on top, instead of 
 which dock badges will be used. That still lives in a separate branch 
 somewhere, as far as I can tell.

 Was there any progress on this recently? Is pantheon-notify still a goal for 
 Isis?
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