Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Saving and restoring app sessions
Should be handled in an app-per-app basis. Saving switchboard's state isn't that useful. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:32 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.orgwrote: +1 on Switchboard. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Also I'm not sure that saving state is a good idea for Switchboard in the first place, let alone a realistic one. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Future of Wingpanel
Personally, I think there's no need to be complicated with the Audience stuff. When Audience is fullscreen wingpanel will just fade out, and when the user moves their mouse near wingpanel it fades back in. On Aug 26, 2013 11:33 AM, Pim Vullers p...@vullersmail.nl wrote: Kurt, What Sergey means is having apps, like Audience (and I think Pantheon-Greeter as well), which have a fullscreen mode (which hides wingpanel), which can still display indicators that are essential to them. So for the video-player Audience it is handy to still provide access to the sound indicator such that it can be used for adjusting the volume. Kind regards, Pim Vullers On 08/26/2013 01:22 PM, Kurt Smolderen wrote: Sergey, What do you mean by 'embedding indictors into apps'? Does it mean one installs for example Noise and the soundindicator is installed as well but not as a separate package? If that's the case, what if a user wants to install another music player which makes use of the sound indicator? Additionally, how difficult will it be/ what effort will it take to backport upstream changes made to for example the sound indicator to the particular apps? Regards Kurt On 26-08-13 11:04, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: [...] Voldyman showed off a cool proof of concept for libpeas-based plugs yesterday, but it's not necessarily the best architecture if we choose to embed indicators into apps (e.g. sound indicator in Audience). I'd like to talk to designers first and see what are the use cases for this feature, and if there's a sufficient number of indicators that should be embedded. Otherwise we could use the libpeas-based architecture and simply provide minimal D-bus interfaces to indicators like Sound. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna +1's Name and Some Other Stuff
I thought the naming scheme was Roman deities, not deities in general? Like Pantheon is the home of the roman gods right? On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:43 PM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.com wrote: I'm actually warming to Isis. I mean, we'll get used to it no matter what name it is. Atleast its not as bad as Saucy Salamander On Aug 16, 2013 10:39 PM, Kristjan Vool ticta...@gmail.com wrote: The name Isis is just simply awful. Apollo sounds a lot stronger and better, makes it feel more elementary'sh. If you don't believe me, just spell it out! If Apollo is no go, at least lets use Iris instead... laupäev, 17. august, 2013 - 0:21,Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.com kirjutas: Isis is AFAIK used by some people as a synonym for Transpluto, so a purely hypothetical part of the space-and-stuff-people-group is also happy with that name. You guys/girls understand? Purely hypothetical. Hehe... So yes, i applaud for Isis and my great pun. 2013/8/16 Avi Romanoff a...@elementaryos.org As I've said before, +1 for Isis :) I can just hear the multitudes saying WHAT??? BUT I THOUGHT THE NAMING SCHEME WAS BASED ON PLANTS AND SPACE AND STUFF! It will be good to set the record straight ;) On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Allen Lowe lallenl...@gmail.comwrote: Isis sounds great to me! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 1:50 PM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.comwrote: Just to clarify on my last mail, Iris is the Greek Goddess of the Rainbow. And, well, elementary is colourful :) On Aug 16, 2013 8:45 PM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like isis. What about Iris? On Aug 16, 2013 8:33 PM, Albert Abril albert.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm new at the maillist, but just wanna say that I like a lot the name of Isis. Bests, Albert. On 16 August 2013 21:27, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.orgwrote: I like the sound of Isis. :) Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS* http://elementaryos.org/. On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Mario Guerriero mefri...@gmail.com wrote: Isis is fine for me. — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox for iPhone On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 9:15 PM, alienus alie...@riseup.netwrote: Yes, the codename is great, and thanks for the other news. All seems very good. Keep up the good work. Best regards. --alienus Le 16/08/2013 21:13, Alfredo Hernández a écrit : +1 for Isis, it feels completely right for elementaryOS. On 16 Aug 2013 21:09, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org mailto:dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey dudes (and hopefully a few dudettes these days), First of all, congratulations to all of you on 100k+ downloads in the first week. That is freaking killer. We're getting rave reviews and (despite bug #1 being closed) we keep hearing from tons of people that are first-time Linux users coming from Windows and Mac OS. If you haven't been in contact with this positive energy yet, I encourage you to hit up youtube for an ego boost. Now down to business! I'm writing to announce the codename of the next elementary release: Wanking Wallaby Jk. What is this, Ubuntu? I'm leaning strongly towards Isis for this one. It's short (2 syllables), should be generally pretty easy to pronounce, etc. Isis is the egyptian mother god of the throne, friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, and the downtrodden. You can read up more about her here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis Munchor says I should go full Hitler and not allow any arguments, but if you think the name totally sucks you can definitely say that. If not, let's go with it! (And even if so, we'll probably still go with it!) Also, I think in general most of us think it would be the best idea to release Isis (see, I'm already going with it) as closely as possible to Ubuntu 14.04. We have a lot to prove about our ability to provide updates in a timely manner and we're getting some negative feedback from developers/nerds about our 12.04 base. So let's address that and make sure that elementary is the best open platform for both users and developers (and I guess nerds too). Cody is currently working on updating Congrego to spit out some super bleeding edge Saucy-based builds. If any of you are already on Saucy, you know how broken Pantheon currently is. Indicators and Plugs are huge problems that we need to address. We're considering moving both of these into lib peas plugins for Wingpanel and Switchboard (respectively). Any feedback on that plan is very welcome. In general, the first priority for Isis is going to be updating all of our apps to compile/run with the latest libraries. You should know that Midori with the latest webkitGTK is amazing. I'm working on porting eGtk and it's going pretty swell. You should also know that all the fancy libaccounts stuff is now available for someone to start playing with so we can get sweet online
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Post-Release
Should probably wait for shnatsel to come back from vacation, and check with anyone relevant to see when they are free. On Aug 11, 2013 6:40 PM, A. Xylon V. avlabs...@gmail.com wrote: I've gotten so used to the feature freeze adding new stuff seems si weird... When will this big contributor meeting be held approximately? A week? On Aug 11, 2013 7:25 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey everyone! First of all, congratulations! You guys have been working super hard for the last two years to bring something truly awesome to desktop Linux and I think from all the amazing feedback we've received, you've definitely succeeded. You guys rock. But obviously the big question is, What now? Well I have some amazing news: feature freeze is finally over! It's time to have a little fun again. No more nose-to-the-grind with all the bug fixing. I myself am writing this from my extremely unstable Saucy install that will probably crash in a few minutes for no apparent reason. And it's freaking exciting! So my first recommendation for you guys is to upgrade yourselves. We all know that 12.04 (and thus Luna) is aging when we're talking about development. I don't think we've come to any official decision, but most of us have been casually throwing around the idea that Luna +1 should release alongside Ubuntu 14.04. We're all super excited about the latest Gtk, Clutter, etc. In case you didn't already know, there's a handful of suggestions for what to work on in Luna +1 here: https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/0.3-beta1 But honestly, take this time to be free. You deserve it. Have fun. Give yourself a pat on the back for how awesome you all are. Once the dust settles on this release, we might want to talk about having another contributor meeting in IRC to get our heads on straight and decide on some general guidelines for Luna +1 (like a real codename, if we really want to release with 14.04, etc) Thanks again everyone and congratulations! Best Regards, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Redesigned and updated Privacy Panel for Switchboard
http://f.cl.ly/items/0K2W2C1i3t0V2Q1s0D0k/Privacy.png On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.orgwrote: It's a third-party theme. But I agree that the plug layout itself feels a bit weird. Dan, care to throw something together? On May 8, 2013 1:24 PM, Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.com wrote: This looks weird. Which theme is this? Elementary? Isn't it just too white? - Manish On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Eduard Gotwig got...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't know why, but for me, this look just doesn't feels right :/ 2013/5/8 Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.com I updated the Checkbox to Switch button and updated the string to This Operating System keeps track of Files and Applications you've used to provide extra functionality Additionally fixed a few bugs. I would release it in a day or two. Translations welcome. - Manish On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org wrote: Manish, I would use a switch for only the top button (which enables/disables the entire service) and maintain the checkboxes below (since they include objects in a list) Best Regards, Daniel Foré El may 7, 2013, a las 4:17 p.m., Manish Sinha manishsi...@ubuntu.com escribió: On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Eduard Gotwig got...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hey Manish, Now, I find the look not quite appealing. Why not implement a ON/OFF switch, just like the one in Ubuntu, to Record Activity? What I do would to move a Record Activity ON/OFF switch to the top, and under that a description what that means. Well, it is a progress. This unified design was made by mpt whereas the previous 3 tab UI was made by me when I was 3 tequila down. That's why it was so terrible. I would really like to know if ON/OFF makes sense in such context. Is it the correct usage of Switch button. It seems to be sometimes over-abused. If some designer can shed light on it. - Manish -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Eduard Gotwig Tiu persono estas oni Esperantiston. Ubuntu TZM Member FLOSS Dev @ Launchpad -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Farewell, Sort Of
Screw you and I hope your family has good health! On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Dane Henson d...@elementaryos.org wrote: Feels like a punch in the gut. I'm excited for you and proud to have canonical poaching our awesome community members. I wish you the best of luck and hope you continue to haunt these parts. Your prominent presence on the council will be sorely missed. On Apr 1, 2013 7:16 PM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.org wrote: Hey Awesome Devs, As many of you may or may not know, I joined the elementary team a little over two years ago. I had been following the project from its humble origins as an icon set and watched it grow into much more: a philosophy, a way of thinking, and a truly powerful software movement. In the time since, I've been on board as a community manager, a sort of public relations guy, a Council member, and a user experience designer. I've floated to where I was needed, helping as much as I could. It's time to continue that flux, albeit with another software project. I've been approached by Canonical to work as a user experience designer for Ubuntu. I'll be working alongside the awesome designers at Canonical on Ubuntu and their mobile efforts. I'm excited to bring the promise of truly free software to a much wider audience, and I couldn't ask for a better team to be working with. I will attempt to still be present in the elementary community and contribute when my new career allows, though I expect it to be at a much smaller capacity compared to now. I wish you all the best of luck with Luna and future releases. Regards, Cassidy James -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Hangout #2
You guys should probably have something to discuss instead of having the viewers create discussions for you, though. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 10:22 PM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: If we're having another Hangout today (and I think we should have bi-weekly hangouts, not weekly), I think we need more devs on it such as Mefrio and Victored that weren't there last time. Either way, I'm probably *in* if I'm not too sleepy ;) David Munchor Gomes On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Following the great success of the first Hangout, it's inevitable that we should do another one. It should be much smoother (without the 30 minutes of faffing around with Hangouts before it works :P) this time. Anyone seriously opposed to Saturday at the same time? It seemed to work well for everyone with the exception of Cassidy and I (although I should be able to come this week) Regards, Sam Tate -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Gala Workspace Animation
Already filed a bug about it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/gala/+bug/1051732 On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Keith Adair kjz...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, +1 on satch...@gmail.com's implementation. On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM, satch...@gmail.com satch...@gmail.com wrote: If I may, here's how things should go: 1. You call up the Workspace Switcher (is there a hot corner or something?). The screen slides *up*. 2. You switch to the workspace on the right. The screen slides *left*. 3. You move/click the mouse somewhere outside the switcher area, dismissing the switcher. The screen slides *down*. Ergo, it should be broken up into gentle vertical and horizontal movements, rather than sudden diagonal movements. On 17 September 2012 22:38, Sam Tate s...@mtate.me.uk wrote: Greetings, A lot of users have expressed an extreme dislike for the Workspace Switcher animation (When clicking on another workspace in the Switcher.) The issue is that the desktop slides to the left/right as well as down. This does look really odd, and some people report it actually being disorientating to watch. Maybe we should consider changing the behaviour? (I personally dislike it too). One option is to slide the desktop, and then after the movement is finished, slide the desktop back down. Thoughts? Sam -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Elementary OS Luna Promotion Video
You can take a look here for all our 'official' fonts. http://elementaryos.org/journal/typography-gtk3 I think one video would suffice. On the homepage we need to tell people what elementary is and what they do. I think someone else had problems being stuck in the bootloader as well. Hop on #elementary in irc.freenode.net. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:57 PM, piggy classy thisispi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I forgot to do reply all in my last message... Thanks everyone for all the comments. The song was taken from this Google video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxKJ7yN-PPMfeature=plcp I think it's a commissioned music, since I couldn't find it anywhere with Google. Honestly, I didn't start making it until I've found this song. As soon as I heard it, I knew it would be a good song for Luna promotion video:) I thought URW Gothic is the official elementary font? I think for the official Luna promotion video, we need to make two of them: a short one (screen recording) to go on the front page and a longer one (people talking and screen recording) in the Discover page with explanations for each apps. Another problem I've heard from some other people is that they couldn't really understand what elementary os is by just visiting the website. Maybe we should add something to the front page explaining what it is? Also, the video was made with my uncle's laptop, which I have to give back this weekend. My own laptop gets stuck at the booting process, and I wouldn't be able to make more videos until that's fixed:( Thisispiggy On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.orgwrote: Hey Piggy, Don't be disappointed! Your work is very good. It's only that we all have gotten used to pushing each other for absolute perfection ;) I love the song. Is it a free song that we can actually use? I agree that it should show off only default apps to avoid confusion about what Luna does out of the box. The HTML5 apps like Angry Birds should also work in Midori just fine :) I think we need to be especially strict about showing only Midori as our web browser simply because we have a lot of competition, FUD, and misconceptions to overcome with it. People should know that it's just as fast and just as capable as the big players (just like our OS!) I showed the video off to my dad (old guy test) and he said he really enjoyed it, but that the transitions were too fast. I agree that in some cases it felt like things weren't shown on the screen long enough to really absorb. Another thing I would make sure is to use either Open Sans or Open Sans Light for your font. This would more closely tie your ad into our official branding. Also elementary is never capitalized. So, for the website I think it's fine to write either elementaryOS.org or elementaryos.org But I liked the timing with the music, the selection of features you chose to show off and the overall feel. It just felt good to watch :) On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM, thisispi...@gmail.com wrote: kroq-gar78, thanks! But do you mean not capitalize it? It's already capitalized. Pim, thanks for the suggestion. I agree that it should have more elementary apps... But I was aiming this video more toward non-Linux users, so I didn't think it would matter much. We should make another more technical video for linux users. Also, I agree some parts are pretty fast, and I do have things to hide! For example, the scene with software store ended abruptly because a pop up comes up immediately afterward with user agreement, and I didn't want to include that. I've been trying really hard to fit the scenes to the video, and I hope the next one will be better. Sigh, a bit disappointed that it doesn't live up to everyone's expectation.. Sent from my mobile device. On Aug 29, 2012, at 21:41, Pim Vullers p...@vullersmail.nl wrote: On 08/29/12 18:32, piggy classy wrote: This is my first time posting here. I'm also new to Launchpad and everything, so I'll be making mistakes. I have made an unofficial Luna promotion video. You can see it here: http://youtu.be/Lw3fGLFqjHs Nice, I would however only use apps that will actually be bundled with elementary, for example, use Midori instead of Chrome. Some fragments are really fast, such that a user has hardly any time to look what it actually happening. (Sometimes almost like there is something to hide.) I have also made a Google Doc to share some of my tips so to make it easy for everyone else to contribute: goo.gl/XUmPL http://goo.gl/XUmPL You might have mentioned that this was about contributing for the video, not to developing the OS. Pim Vullers -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list:
