Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
Thank you Jacob for your various fixes and yours too Cameron, very much appreciated, keep them incoming! David. On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.comwrote: That is a very well written application. Reading over it, I did see a single (possible) grammatical error. The following sentence seems to run on, and at the least it is quite awkward: Not only will they learn a lot as they will be surrounded by friendly people that are always willing to share their knowledge and let them know that each and every one in the project matters. May I suggest: As well as learning a number of skills, students will be surrounded by friendly people that are always willing to share their knowledge and let each other know that each and every person in the project is important. Good luck guys! El Sun, 9 de Feb 2014 a las 7:36 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org escribió: Hi everyone, Today I got started on writing up the answers for the GSOC application[0]. I have also began work on the Ideas page[1] and am looking forward to everyone's advice, critics and any kinds of comments you have on what has been written. You should also read the FAQ for this year's edition of GSOC[2] in order to get an idea of what we need to say and how everything works. Cheers, David [0] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fzqtikkJh3cOX_I9i_RxMOnyl75-MyxUwMj52PNmzAE/edit [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/10FOIM5YfE2wKVHK0tABGhYmfFa-jZJmbcUYiP2tJxlk/edit [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everybody, Google started accepting applications for GSoC today and i wanted to get some feedback if there is interest in participating (in the community and in the team)? For those we are new, we already applied last year but we weren't accepted. I bring the topic up as we got a lot of media coverage since the Luna-release and it's probably worth another try. Deadline is next Friday and i'm currently stuck in exams till this friday, so don't expect a lot of input from my side in the next three days. I'll be back full-time on Saturday/Sunday. - Raphael Isemann - Paperwork from last work: * Our letter of application from last year that is currently not open for everyone. Feel free to drop a mail if you want to take a look at it [1] * Ideas page from last year [2] [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4l33Ln7EZoAEjLF8wsvqiNU6SDOcM9BW9R2dh62thg/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv_KzCUjfQIP0C6n593LPBE1gkCuNNI1SCO7vvw8njw/edit -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
Hi everybody, Google started accepting applications for GSoC today and i wanted to get some feedback if there is interest in participating (in the community and in the team)? For those we are new, we already applied last year but we weren't accepted. I bring the topic up as we got a lot of media coverage since the Luna-release and it's probably worth another try. Deadline is next Friday and i'm currently stuck in exams till this friday, so don't expect a lot of input from my side in the next three days. I'll be back full-time on Saturday/Sunday. - Raphael Isemann - Paperwork from last work: * Our letter of application from last year that is currently not open for everyone. Feel free to drop a mail if you want to take a look at it [1] * Ideas page from last year [2] [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4l33Ln7EZoAEjLF8wsvqiNU6SDOcM9BW9R2dh62thg/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv_KzCUjfQIP0C6n593LPBE1gkCuNNI1SCO7vvw8njw/edit -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
One interesting idea might be adding Chromecast support to Music, Photos, and Audience and/or creating a libchromecast (if such a thing doesn't already exist)Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, Google started accepting applications for GSoC today and i wanted to get some feedback if there is interest in participating (in the community and in the team)? For those we are new, we already applied last year but we weren't accepted. I bring the topic up as we got a lot of media coverage since the Luna-release and it's probably worth another try. Deadline is next Friday and i'm currently stuck in exams till this friday, so don't expect a lot of input from my side in the next three days. I'll be back full-time on Saturday/Sunday. - Raphael Isemann - Paperwork from last work: * Our letter of application from last year that is currently not open for everyone. Feel free to drop a mail if you want to take a look at it [1] * Ideas page from last year [2] [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4l33Ln7EZoAEjLF8wsvqiNU6SDOcM9BW9R2dh62thg/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv_KzCUjfQIP0C6n593LPBE1gkCuNNI1SCO7vvw8njw/edit -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
The ideas behind Chromecast are not new, so maybe you can extend or generalize that support, something like a libbroadcast Enviado desde Yahoo Mail en Android -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
Thanks for reminding us Raphael, First, did we get any feedback last year? If we did, we should definitely work towards this direction. I am not an expert in GSoC applications, but my feeling is that we have *many* and *small* targets. Although important, most of the targets in the idea page have a scope of two weeks (full-time work). My understanding from other project's applications (e.g., MINIX) is that the focus should be 3+ months of work (and students even start before GSoC). At the same time, provided that we have 2-3 such tasks, we need to show why mentorship is *critical*. For instance, most of the proposed ideas don't need any mentoring (provided a student is willing to code) and the ones that need mentorship (e.g., Android idea) have a concrete plan. In particular, I would expect to see a couple of sentences of (1) why the mini-project the student is tackling is hard (2) how is the mentor going to alleviate many of these with the right guidance (3) why the project is important. For instance, what are the possible obstacles one is going to face, and how can we guide the student to avoid these as much as possible? We need to actually flesh out the details for whatever we are proposing! Obviously, no one expects us to foresee the future! What we need to show is that we have put *considerable* effort in planning and that we will make the most out of both the student's and the mentor's time. At the same time, we are showing that some of these cannot be done any other way (or would take something equivalent of a year of someone's working less than part-time with no guidance!). As an added value, we could call out potentially *non-obvious* benefits in the FOSS community. By succeeding there, what do we enable? Just to give an example, one idea of this level would be the Time Machine (for lack of a better name). It is a considerable effort, it *requires* mentoring, it will benefit the whole FOSS community, it may integrate with cloud services (e.g., Google's own servers) and it's painfully missing. Of course, this is only an example, but there are other ideas of this level. Let's start working early on this! Nikos On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mario Daniel Ruiz Saavedra desideran...@rocketmail.com wrote: The ideas behind Chromecast are not new, so maybe you can extend or generalize that support, something like a libbroadcast Enviado desde Yahoo Mail en Androidhttps://mx.overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android -- * From: * Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org; * To: * Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.com; * Cc: * elementary-dev-community elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net; * Subject: * Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again) * Sent: * Tue, Feb 4, 2014 7:14:12 PM One interesting idea might be adding Chromecast support to Music, Photos, and Audience and/or creating a libchromecast (if such a thing doesn't already exist) Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everybody, Google started accepting applications for GSoC today and i wanted to get some feedback if there is interest in participating (in the community and in the team)? For those we are new, we already applied last year but we weren't accepted. I bring the topic up as we got a lot of media coverage since the Luna-release and it's probably worth another try. Deadline is next Friday and i'm currently stuck in exams till this friday, so don't expect a lot of input from my side in the next three days. I'll be back full-time on Saturday/Sunday. - Raphael Isemann - Paperwork from last work: * Our letter of application from last year that is currently not open for everyone. Feel free to drop a mail if you want to take a look at it [1] * Ideas page from last year [2] [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4l33Ln7EZoAEjLF8wsvqiNU6SDOcM9BW9R2dh62thg/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv_KzCUjfQIP0C6n593LPBE1gkCuNNI1SCO7vvw8njw/edit -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again)
I exactly agree with you Nikos. I think you should look at Sympy GSoC Applicationhttps://github.com/sympy/sympy/wiki/gsoc-2014-organization-application They have been participating in GSoC from past 5 years or so you can find more details in the link given. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for reminding us Raphael, First, did we get any feedback last year? If we did, we should definitely work towards this direction. I am not an expert in GSoC applications, but my feeling is that we have *many* and *small* targets. Although important, most of the targets in the idea page have a scope of two weeks (full-time work). My understanding from other project's applications (e.g., MINIX) is that the focus should be 3+ months of work (and students even start before GSoC). At the same time, provided that we have 2-3 such tasks, we need to show why mentorship is *critical*. For instance, most of the proposed ideas don't need any mentoring (provided a student is willing to code) and the ones that need mentorship (e.g., Android idea) have a concrete plan. In particular, I would expect to see a couple of sentences of (1) why the mini-project the student is tackling is hard (2) how is the mentor going to alleviate many of these with the right guidance (3) why the project is important. For instance, what are the possible obstacles one is going to face, and how can we guide the student to avoid these as much as possible? We need to actually flesh out the details for whatever we are proposing! Obviously, no one expects us to foresee the future! What we need to show is that we have put *considerable* effort in planning and that we will make the most out of both the student's and the mentor's time. At the same time, we are showing that some of these cannot be done any other way (or would take something equivalent of a year of someone's working less than part-time with no guidance!). As an added value, we could call out potentially *non-obvious* benefits in the FOSS community. By succeeding there, what do we enable? Just to give an example, one idea of this level would be the Time Machine (for lack of a better name). It is a considerable effort, it *requires* mentoring, it will benefit the whole FOSS community, it may integrate with cloud services (e.g., Google's own servers) and it's painfully missing. Of course, this is only an example, but there are other ideas of this level. Let's start working early on this! Nikos On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Mario Daniel Ruiz Saavedra desideran...@rocketmail.com wrote: The ideas behind Chromecast are not new, so maybe you can extend or generalize that support, something like a libbroadcast Enviado desde Yahoo Mail en Androidhttps://mx.overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android -- * From: * Daniel Foré dan...@elementaryos.org; * To: * Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.com; * Cc: * elementary-dev-community elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net; * Subject: * Re: [Elementary-dev-community] GSoC (again) * Sent: * Tue, Feb 4, 2014 7:14:12 PM One interesting idea might be adding Chromecast support to Music, Photos, and Audience and/or creating a libchromecast (if such a thing doesn't already exist) Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Raphael Isemann teempe...@gmail.comwrote: Hi everybody, Google started accepting applications for GSoC today and i wanted to get some feedback if there is interest in participating (in the community and in the team)? For those we are new, we already applied last year but we weren't accepted. I bring the topic up as we got a lot of media coverage since the Luna-release and it's probably worth another try. Deadline is next Friday and i'm currently stuck in exams till this friday, so don't expect a lot of input from my side in the next three days. I'll be back full-time on Saturday/Sunday. - Raphael Isemann - Paperwork from last work: * Our letter of application from last year that is currently not open for everyone. Feel free to drop a mail if you want to take a look at it [1] * Ideas page from last year [2] [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-4l33Ln7EZoAEjLF8wsvqiNU6SDOcM9BW9R2dh62thg/edit?usp=sharing [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Nv_KzCUjfQIP0C6n593LPBE1gkCuNNI1SCO7vvw8njw/edit -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https
