Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Alejandro Morales Lepe]

Sergey,

I installed the image without problems in a virtual machine (virtualbox) 
however I was not able to find the setup launcher in the dock, is that a 
virtualbox issue? seems to be running properly, except that the OEM 
setup is not working yet, thanks everyone for following this up!


- Alex


El 17/09/12 14:43, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff escribió:

Hey Alex,

All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation 
and report results.


2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff >


The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an
updated ISO image. It does not include our patches

of Ubiquity because imports of Ubuntu packages to Launchpad


are lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased
onto our custom import infrastructure

.
But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM
installation should still work. As far as the "prepare for
shipping" launcher goes, it should be present in the dock now.

*usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be
moving datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.

2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe mailto:aml24...@gmail.com>>:

> Hi Sergey!
>
> I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
>
> - Alex
>


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Darcy Brás da Silva]

I use qemu, and for graphical frontend aqemu ... as long you have
support for KVM module you are good to go.
Works 10/10 times for me
On Wed, 2012-09-19 at 04:59 +0400, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff wrote:
> I'm glad it works in VirtualBox sometimes, but you'd better avoid
> using it for Linux guests, especially for testing purposes. Its guest
> additions are known to cause weird issues and crashes all over the
> system (see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw)
> and without guest additions you won't get 3D acceleration that's
> currently required by Gala.
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

I'm glad it works in VirtualBox sometimes, but you'd better avoid using it
for Linux guests, especially for testing purposes. Its guest additions are
known to cause weird issues and crashes all over the system (see
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTk5Mw) and without
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Gala.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Craig]

I'll admit the only one I tried was 9/14. Shame on me for assuming it was a
persistent virtual box problem. :)
On Sep 18, 2012 6:42 PM, "ttosttos Sa"  wrote:

> I rarely run into issues loading elementary ISOs on VBox.  Last one, I
> tried was 9/5 w/o any issues.
>
> ttosttos
> --
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> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Craig  wrote:
>
>> How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read
>> eOS isos.
>> On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" <
>> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Alex,
>>>
>>> All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation
>>> and report results.
>>>
>>> 2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>>>
 The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an
 updated ISO image. It does not include our 
 patchesof
  Ubiquity because imports
 of Ubuntu packages to 
 Launchpadare
  lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
 custom import 
 infrastructure.
 But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
 still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
 be present in the dock now.

 *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
 datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.

 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :

 > Hi Sergey!
 >
 > I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
 >
 > - Alex
 >

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[ttosttos Sa]

I rarely run into issues loading elementary ISOs on VBox.  Last one, I
tried was 9/5 w/o any issues.

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Craig  wrote:

> How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read
> eOS isos.
> On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" <
> ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:
>
>> Hey Alex,
>>
>> All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and
>> report results.
>>
>> 2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>>
>>> The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an
>>> updated ISO image. It does not include our 
>>> patchesof
>>>  Ubiquity because imports
>>> of Ubuntu packages to 
>>> Launchpadare
>>>  lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
>>> custom import 
>>> infrastructure.
>>> But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
>>> still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
>>> be present in the dock now.
>>>
>>> *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
>>> datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.
>>>
>>> 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :
>>>
>>> > Hi Sergey!
>>> >
>>> > I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
>>> >
>>> > - Alex
>>> >
>>>
>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Cassidy James]

I've gotten VirtualBox to load the latest ISO; not sure what the issue is.
:-/

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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <
ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:

> How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read
>> eOS isos.
>>
> Why am I not surprised?
> Use VMware Player or make LiveUSBs using Ubuntu's built-in usb-creator (in
> case you don't use ubuntu, run isohybrid on the ISO and dd it to a USB
> thumb).
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

>
> How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read
> eOS isos.
>
Why am I not surprised?
Use VMware Player or make LiveUSBs using Ubuntu's built-in usb-creator (in
case you don't use ubuntu, run isohybrid on the ISO and dd it to a USB
thumb).

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Craig]

How do we test clean installs? I've noticed virtualbox can't seem to read
eOS isos.
On Sep 17, 2012 4:43 PM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" <
ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote:

> Hey Alex,
>
> All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and
> report results.
>
> 2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 
>
>> The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated
>> ISO image. It does not include our 
>> patchesof
>>  Ubiquity because imports
>> of Ubuntu packages to 
>> Launchpadare
>>  lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
>> custom import 
>> infrastructure.
>> But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
>> still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
>> be present in the dock now.
>>
>> *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
>> datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.
>>
>> 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :
>>
>> > Hi Sergey!
>> >
>> > I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
>> >
>> > - Alex
>> >
>>
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

Hey Alex,

All patches are properly propagated now. Please test OEM installation and
report results.

2012/8/27 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff 

> The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated
> ISO image. It does not include our 
> patchesof
>  Ubiquity because imports
> of Ubuntu packages to 
> Launchpadare
>  lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
> custom import 
> infrastructure.
> But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
> still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
> be present in the dock now.
>
> *usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
> datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.
>
> 2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :
>
> > Hi Sergey!
> >
> > I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
> >
> > - Alex
> >
>

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

The updates have finally* landed to PPAs, so I've put together an updated
ISO image. It does not include our
patchesof
Ubiquity because imports
of Ubuntu packages to
Launchpadare
lagging (as usually) and Ubiquity patch is not yet rebased onto our
custom import 
infrastructure.
But we didn't change anything critical, so I guess OEM installation should
still work. As far as the "prepare for shipping" launcher goes, it should
be present in the dock now.

*usually it doesn't take that long. Canonical happened to be moving
datacenters and that caused some quirks and delays.

2012/8/18 Alejandro Morales Lepe :
> Hi Sergey!
>
> I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!
>
> - Alex
>
>
> El 18/08/12 01:23, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff escribió:
>
> Hey Alex,
>
> From what I gathered so far, there should be a menu entry for that, unless
> the menu got gobbled up by
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1022367
>
> I've committed a patch that's supposed to put the launcher in the dock too
> and make it not removable by user "oem" (without sudoing at least).
> Launchpad is slow recently, so it will take a while to build. I'll notify
> you when an ISO with that patch is available; would be great if you could
> test it.
>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Alejandro Morales Lepe]

(sorry, my previous message was sent without being completed)

Not any application in particular, but after installing on OEM mode 
(when you boot the liveCD press any key to change language, then select 
language and press F4 to select installation modes, where OEM 
installation is available) there should be an option to set-up for end 
user, which is not present, that option should allow the final user of 
the computer to create its user accounts, set up keyboard and language. 
This is useful for those who might want to install Luna in a computer 
that will be used by another person, like a brand new one.


Attached 2 images, the first one (screen1.png) shows the OEM install 
option. the second one (screen2.png) shows the "prepare for shipping to 
end user" option in Xubuntu 12.04 which is missing on Luna.


Yes, the old OEM installation from the DVD is not used any more, however 
it can be enabled pressing F4 on the liveCD


The OEM install is, in my opinion, very important, it's handy when you 
perform an install for somebody else but you don't want to create an 
user account for it, just like a brand new computer, you install this 
way, select "prepare for..." and shutdown the computer, ship it to who 
is going to use it and when he/she turns on the computer, the initial 
set up will be shown. See the rest of images which displays what happens 
next after you select the option "prepare for..."


- Alex


After that process the user is taken to the login page so he/she can use 
the account just created.

El 17/08/12 13:26, Cody Garver escribió:
What application(s) do you expect? We probably removed them to save 
space. Maybe we can make room to return them to the ISO. However, 
space is quite scarce at the moment.


On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Alejandro Morales Lepe 
mailto:aml24...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello team!

I did what Fabian suggested and installed on a virtual machine
successfully, pressing F4 and selecting OEM mode.
However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem,
there is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no
icon in the desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if
there is a terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this,
however, I don't know how.

- Alex



El 16/08/12 13:31, Fabian Thoma escribió:

Hey Alex,

I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does
this might actually already work without us knowing, it would be
great if you could test such an installation out on one of our
recent daily builds(which you can find here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/)

Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;)

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe
mailto:aml24...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Team!

I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include
an OEM installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS
for a future user to configure.

I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu,
but I would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but
for this an OEM install mode is crucial.

Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to
install applications for the end-user?

will it include codecs?

   Thanks in advance!

- Alex

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Alejandro Morales Lepe]

Hi Sergey!

I will test as soon as you notify me of the .iso!

- Alex


El 18/08/12 01:23, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff escribió:

Hey Alex,

From what I gathered so far, there should be a menu entry for that, 
unless the menu got gobbled up by 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1022367


I've committed 
 
a patch that's supposed to put the launcher in the dock too and make 
it not removable by user "oem" (without sudoing at least). Launchpad 
is slow recently, so it will take a while to build. I'll notify you 
when an ISO with that patch is available; would be great if you could 
test it.


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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

Hey Alex,

>From what I gathered so far, there should be a menu entry for that, unless
the menu got gobbled up by
https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1022367

I've 
committeda
patch that's supposed to put the launcher in the dock too and make it
not
removable by user "oem" (without sudoing at least). Launchpad is slow
recently, so it will take a while to build. I'll notify you when an ISO
with that patch is available; would be great if you could test it.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

Thanks for the info, I've updated the bug report accordingly and targeted
it to beta2.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Cody Garver]

What application(s) do you expect? We probably removed them to save space.
Maybe we can make room to return them to the ISO. However, space is quite
scarce at the moment.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Alejandro Morales Lepe
wrote:

>  Hello team!
>
> I did what Fabian suggested and installed on a virtual machine
> successfully, pressing F4 and selecting OEM mode.
> However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there is
> no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the desktop
> nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a terminal
> way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't know how.
>
> - Alex
>
>
>
> El 16/08/12 13:31, Fabian Thoma escribió:
>
> Hey Alex,
>
>  I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this
> might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if you
> could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily builds(which
> you can find here:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/)
>
>  Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;)
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe <
> aml24...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Team!
>>
>> I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM
>> installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user to
>> configure.
>>
>> I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I would
>> like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM install
>> mode is crucial.
>>
>> Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install
>> applications for the end-user?
>>
>> will it include codecs?
>>
>>Thanks in advance!
>>
>> - Alex
>>
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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff]

2012/8/17 Alejandro Morales Lepe 

>  However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there
> is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the
> desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a
> terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't know
> how.
>

Hello Alex,

I've tried to look for OEM installation docs and found only
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview which is
old and most likely outdated. Could you briefly describe the process of OEM
installation - for example, what's the difference compared to the normal
one? And what stage exactly is missing?

Given more info on the use case - why it's needed, and who and when uses it
- we'll be able to request input from the user experience team and possibly
improve the missing stage instead of simply bringing it back.

I've opened a bug about it at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/elementaryos/+bug/1038242 so it doesn't get
lost/forgotten, please feel free to correct or update it.

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Alejandro Morales Lepe]

Hello team!

I did what Fabian suggested and installed on a virtual machine 
successfully, pressing F4 and selecting OEM mode.
However, after rebooting I ran into a very important problem, there 
is no way to set up the system for end user, there is no icon in the 
desktop nor a menu entry (and I don't remember if there is a 
terminal way to do that). I would like to fix this, however, I don't 
know how.


- Alex



El 16/08/12 13:31, Fabian Thoma escribió:

Hey Alex,

I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this 
might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if 
you could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily 
builds(which you can find here: 
http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/)


Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;)

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe 
mailto:aml24...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hello Team!

I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM
installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a
future user to configure.

I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I
would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an
OEM install mode is crucial.

Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install
applications for the end-user?

will it include codecs?

   Thanks in advance!

- Alex

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Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Fabian Thoma]

Hey Alex,

I'm not 100% sure but as we use the same installer as Ubuntu does this
might actually already work without us knowing, it would be great if you
could test such an installation out on one of our recent daily builds(which
you can find here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/)

Thanks for pointing us in this direction, have a nice day ;)

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Alejandro Morales Lepe
wrote:

> Hello Team!
>
> I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM
> installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user to
> configure.
>
> I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I would
> like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM install
> mode is crucial.
>
> Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install
> applications for the end-user?
>
> will it include codecs?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
> - Alex
>
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[Elementary-dev-community] OEM Installation mode

[Alejandro Morales Lepe]

Hello Team!

I would like to know if Elementary OS Luna will include an OEM 
installation mode like Ubuntu, to allow install the OS for a future user 
to configure.


I sometimes rebuild computers and sell them with Ubuntu, but I 
would like to switch to Luna once it is released, but for this an OEM 
install mode is crucial.


Is it going to be available? Is it going to be able to install 
applications for the end-user?


will it include codecs?

   Thanks in advance!

- Alex

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